So, using the same logic, we should never make offers for players like Eriksen, Draxler, Paquetá, Maddison, van de Beek, etc?
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So, using the same logic, we should never make offers for players like Eriksen, Draxler, Paquetá, Maddison, van de Beek, etc?
Thank you for the stats. But my comment was based on City signing Bruno Fernandes.. hence this being in the Bruno Fernandes transfer thread..
If they sign Bruno, Foden will get less minutes.
I’ve been thinking the same. Watched him in a couple of games in recent weeks and I could see him struggling in the PL. He doesn’t seem to shield the ball well and is a bit lightweight. He does show some nice touches and flick layoffs
but his defensive work rate doesn’t look that impressive. Obviously he has a good shot and finish but definitely more of a 10.
Saw rumors that he has a 35m release clause. At that price I would take him if Mata goes but anything around 50m is too much.
As always a lot of scepticism when we're linked with a player, then City look like signing him and there's then mass hysteria and then in recent times we actually do sign them and they turn out shit 
Don't worry about City guys, we can do things in the transfer market that other clubs can only dream of
You say that as if it's a given. It's possible that other players will play less minutes (David Silva), leave the club (Gündoğan) or primarily move to a different position (Bernardo Silva) to make up for it.
Since City play with two "number 10s", having 4-5 of them in the squad is not nearly as excessive as some try to make it out.
CF Agüero/Jesus
LW Sterling/Sané
RW Bernardo/Mahrez
AM Bruno/Silva
AM KDB/Foden
DM Fernandinho/Gündoğan or Rodri
Even if Gündoğan stays it's not the end of the world for Foden.
Don't worry about City guys, we can do things in the transfer market that other clubs can only dream of
I guess a nightmare is classed as a bad dream...
Said it before but he only makes sense as a Pogba replacement. The other 2 midfield positions are the priority right now, but probably next summer we'll need to change Pogba anyway.
Not really, even with Pogba we need another attacking threat from midfield that can score.
If Pogba stays but gets injured/suspended/needs rest we need another option.
you're guessing
Don't worry about City guys, we can do things in the transfer market that other clubs can only dream of
Watch this space ?
If ED could curb that love for big names who can sell more shirts in last 6 years, We could have done much better in transfer market. In the end wasted lot of our time chasing stars didnt come to us and missed many opportunity to sign other good players
More like the things they have nightmares aboutDon't worry about City guys, we can do things in the transfer market that other clubs can only dream of
We need more Silva and less second strikers though, like Kagawa. This guy looks like the former.
I think City having so many top players not playing every week, when let's be honest, they want to play every game, will ultimately mean disappointment for some. Mahrez, Sane and Foden have all struggled for minutes this season and will be wanting more minutes than they currently get. Sane is still very young and needs to be playing every week imo to get some sort of form going which is very difficult with Sterling who's in sensational form and will be 1st choice for the left. The same for Foden. I get that for an 18 year old he shouldn't be rushed and he is getting minutes.. not alot but some. But he needs more minutes next season and bringing in another player for the same position will 100% mean his minutes are reduced again.
I don't think they need another #10. A #6 is a must. Don't want to de rail this bruno thread with man city stats or opinions too much but I'm sure we can all agree that city are a little OTT with their squad options. 2 top class players for each position is not as healthy as having a younger, hungrier, lesser known player like Phil Foden fighting and pushing the other players for minutes.
We need Pogba gone from the team to improve and play as a team. There's way too much play and not enough seriousness in the dressing room.
Of course i am guessing. I'm talking about the future. It hasn't happened yet so I'm looking at the current situation and making assumptions on what I see. City signing Bruno will probably mean Foden gets less game time next season, when he should get a step up in minutes on this season
Nonsense. The main thing we're lacking is actual ability.
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Ah and I thought I was engaging with a sensible poster. Nevermind!
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Bruno F is class when finishing and his set pieces are great. He plays with high intensity. But what about the rest of his game?
Does he lose the ball often?
How is his decisionmaking?
How is his ability on the ball when being pressed?
Can he press as part of a team?
Bruno F is class when finishing and his set pieces are great. He plays with high intensity. But what about the rest of his game?
Does he lose the ball often?
How is his decisionmaking?
How is his ability on the ball when being pressed?
Can he press as part of a team?
Much bigger priorities. We need 5 starting 11 players, we'll probably sign 4. Fixing the depth and back ups really should come after, makes no sense to do it before. Bruno Fernandes next to Pogba straight up wouldnt work either, we know Pogba is best in the most attacking role, no use putting him back as the 8 only to unbalance the midfield. We need a holding midfielder to be the #6, we need an all rounder midfielder to be the #8, and those 2 are needed asap since whoever starts there isnt even good enough in a potential best case future scenario. Not to mention right wing and right back and center back. When Pogba leaves we'll need that 3rd midfielder as well, but til then, he starts there and we have the likes of Mata for now, Pereira, lingard who can all fill in as the #10.
In fact I'd say a #10 is the last thing we need right now until Pogba leaves. What our team needs is more technical ability and control in midfield, as well as defensive stability. The rest will come once the foundation is there.
Tbh, so are you.
basically any City midfielder we're linked too and all I see is 'less game time for Foden' 'Foden should leave' yet season on season he's getting more game time and the same will happen next season, Foden started v Spurs the other week and scored the winner, there is no way by signing Bruno that I can see how Foden will get less game time next season (barring injuries), people forget Foden is 18 and already had a serious injury and developing him like he is will hopefully prevent him becoming another Wilshire.
yeah, but like I said above, any signing we make and people say Foden will get less game time when I can't see that happening as he's getting more and more as the season goes on, it just wouldn't make sense
He is an engine and helps his DMs recover the ball to initiate attacks. His decision making is swift and he knows where he wants to put the ball before getting it. I suggest tuning into the cup final vs Porto May 25. He does not lose the ball a lot and he has the technical qualities to get out of tight places. I posted a video on here that really highlighted his technical qualities.
Also United better act fast because over the past 2 weeks the strong rumor here in Portugal is City are front runners now and our director Hugo Viana and Jorge Mendes are apparently in Manchester talking to city representatives.
Could you share that video again please? I’m keen to see what his actual ‘midfielding’ is like as opposed to his goalscoring record.
Sounds like this particular ship has already sailed then.
If we aren't going to sign players around them to make it work then yes we shouldn't get them, not yet anyway. This whole thing becomes a vicious cycle until we fix the core of the problem. We sign creative midfielders because we lack attacking spark (Pogba, Mikhi, Fred etc). They flop because our team cant accomodate them and remain solid at the same time. We blame the player for the failure and ship them out and sign someone else to replace them and hope they work better.
Can't you see, Pogba is a top 5 midfielder in the world and we literally are on the brink of selling him and replacing him with Bruno. Why would Bruno work any better than Pogba? Pogba literally won a world cup with France playing next to guys like Kante, Tolisso etc why aren't we surrounding Pogba with these type of guys, hard working midfield engines. Instead we go for more creative attacking types who further exacerbate our weak midfield issues.
Look at Liverpool, they have 0 creativity in midfield, it's all hard working players and yet that have scored more goals than almost anyone since Klopp joined and have been to a CL final and semi final. Creativity more and more is coming from attackers these days and midfielders are asked to do more hard working roles especially with the advances of modern attacking fullbacks.
If we signed Bruno or Eriksen this summer and no other midfielders we won't progress at all with this team.
We lack team cohesion apart from just ability. We rely heavily on Pogba and Pogba doesn't want to be here at OT. Without Pogba playing or playing well for that matter, we have no identity. What nonsense about that?
Nothing is set and stone But City seem very proactive in making their team even stronger .
What was so insensible about my post? We lack team cohesion. Our style of play has been completely disjointed. We rely heavily on Pogba to deliver for us and neither he nor his agent want him to be at United. So what's so INSENSIBLE in me wanting him to be moved on? I didn't say Pogba is a bad player... But there's not much seriousness in the dressing room or willingness to win. Everyone knew how important the Everton game for us and we had to win it. Not only did we lose, we lost 4-0... Do you call it weak mentality or lack of seriousness? Either way, I would get two quality players for the same price of Pogba if I had the option. Having to rely on Pogba who can be a moody player can be disconcerting as a fan or as a fellow player. Hope that makes sense to you now.
When was the last time an attacker directly from Portugese league made a swift impact in premier league? That being the reason , the talks of 70m is way too high.If we are losing out to City on this, be it. There are so many midfielders out there who can instantly improve us.
Not worried !
Not worried !
That mentality is why City are the best team. United think there are other options and then end up with the Freds of the world. They clearly see something you dont see then. Look at Bernardo Silva who came from Ligue 1. My mentality in terms of players this is also my view with youth academy is if they are good enough they are old enough. As for Bruno if you are good enough you are ready to play.
Flop sold to Everton Summer 2020 written all over him. Sign him.
There are couple things that Bruno would bring to our United side if he were to join.
1. He adds goals from midfield. He's naturally an attacking minded player who doesn't need to be told about making late runs in the box to provide that extra body.
2. He's a deadball specialist. I'm sick and tired of Rashford thinking he's Ronaldo (2008) and he keeps taking freekicks and offers no challenge to the opposition goalie.
3. He tracks back as well to help out in midfield and provides a good work rate which when you see Pogba has struggled to get back when he's committed himself rather forward and we've had the opposition hit us on the break.
With that being said, there is no sure shot way to know that he'll definitely make us better. Also, 50-60m price being quoted, is basically what all good midfielders are going for these days.
Raul Jimenez, Raul Meireles, Diogo Jota (although first season in the Championship), Cristiano Ronaldo and Bernardo Silva.
Moutinho as well. He was in France and Portugal his whole career.
I have to admire City's transfer strategy. They settle on their targets early and try and get them signed soon after the window opens. They know what players they want and how they'll complement the team. Compare that to us and the last 6 seasons of stumbling through windows. We've had different managers with competing philosophies and thus have a mess of a squad.
They also build on from a position of strength. They're most likely winning the league and are already planning on in strengthening their squad. That's something United didn't do enough of even when Ferguson was in charge.
They also build on from a position of strength. They're most likely winning the league and are already planning on in strengthening their squad. That's something United didn't do enough of even when Ferguson was in charge.
Silva came from France. Except for CR7 not really convincing, right?
Ofcourse, no disagreements there. He would be more of a Rooney than a midfielder is what my point is.
Would he improve us - 100%. Should we rush and sign him ? Well, not really !
Also whats his credentials as a midfielder ? Has he played enough as midfielder ?
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