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What about ‘expected’ stuffBruno doesn't even statpad anymore. He has essentially become useless
What about ‘expected’ stuffBruno doesn't even statpad anymore. He has essentially become useless
"expected stuff" has really ruined football conversations in generalWhat about ‘expected’ stuff
From the guy citing 6 months & the most chaotic season for every player at the club. Yea I think we’re done here.The point being that taking a 9 month outlier as the norm and blaming ETH for a decline in output that started two years before he arrived is disingenuous.
Ok let’s drop him from this United side. Who are the others whose creativity he is negating? Who is he forcing to play second fiddle in this United squad that would be producing as much/more than we’ve seen Bruno do previously?He forces anyone to be second fiddle to himself, unless it's a goal scorer. He sucks up everything to live and die by his feet. Because building up attacks could allow others to create something from openings, he negates that by not allowing that to happen as he's the one who selfish enough to play hollywood passes as often as he does.
Ok let’s drop him from this United side. Who are the others whose creativity he is negating? Who is he forcing to play second fiddle in this United squad that would be producing as much/more than we’ve seen Bruno do previously?
As you’ll have read had you actually looked at my previous posts, I think Bruno eventually needs to be improved on but this clamour to drop him for a miracle replacement that doesn’t exist is prime Caf. We’ve bigger issues to address.
When the replacement is Mason fecking Mount I’ll take Bruno Fernandes. I’ve wanted to see Eriksen in the 10 myself but that would be for 45-60 minutes a game.The problem is he doesnt fit any other system than counter attacking. Thats why he was good under Ole.
As soon as you ask him to play with composure and maintain positioning and simple passes he falls apart.
I would play Mount in there and bring on Eriksen when teams are tired.
When the replacement is Mason fecking Mount I’ll take Bruno Fernandes. I’ve wanted to see Eriksen in the 10 myself but that would be for 45-60 minutes a game.
Again, Bruno is a problem, he’s just not the biggest for me & the replacements are far from ideal.
When the replacement is Mason fecking Mount I’ll take Bruno Fernandes. I’ve wanted to see Eriksen in the 10 myself but that would be for 45-60 minutes a game.
Again, Bruno is a problem, he’s just not the biggest for me & the replacements are far from ideal.
And another captain gets the treatment......not sure how this will help in the short term. Maguire has come back, a little better than he was, but he's still not a CB you want to plan your future with imo. But here's the question, is BF the CM and captain you want to go forward with? Personally I think he's not the player or personality we need for those 2 positions. He's too ragged as a player, too many misplaced passes/giveaways during your average game, and too many petulant outbursts to be the leader of a group where diligence, discipline and motivation seem sorely lacking.We deffo should give Mount a shot. Bruno needs to get his shit together and maybe sitting out for a couple of games will help
What about ‘expected’ stuff
Running around like a headless chicken trying to kick anyone he could get close to after the game was well out of hand is not "passion" or "fight", it's a petulant child throwing a tantrum and trying to fight the adults in the room after pissing himself.
What are you talking about. I’ve literally cited Bruno’s entire time at the club and said that besides his first six footballing months his form has been poor and his stats have been low.From the guy citing 6 months & the most chaotic season for every player at the club. Yea I think we’re done here.
If you actually read what I post you see I said Bruno should take some blame himself, absolving EtH tactics entirely as you’re doing is what truly disingenuous but yes Bruno is tots useless & EtH has been faultless if that means you’ll move on.
Not true. He was pretty good against 10 men Forrest.Expect him to be shite
He delivers.
100% xsp (expected shite performance) so far this season.
Not true. He was pretty good against 10 men Forrest.
Jack Grealish says “hi”He has the most punchable face on earth. And when he throws his arms up in the air and starts crying like a little girl with his big rabbit teeth it makes it even worse.
He is fairly limited footballer with serious flaws with couple of redeeming qualities, no matter how absurd it may sound he has not been held back by his lack of intelligence and composure he has somehow managed to make a career out of it a restrained Bruno could not justify his position in the team as he simply won't produce the numbers needed to play such a mediocre player in the team .At United I've never seen such a naturally talented footballer held back by such a severe lack of intelligence and composure. He's petulant beyond belief.
I disagree. Other than having an iffy first touch and very limited dribbling ability, he is a well-rounded footballer technically. He's a great ball-striker, with terrific variation to his shots and passes when he engages his brain. He's shown he has a great final ball and create good chances at a good rate, and has scored a wide range of very good goals for us.He is fairly limited footballer with serious flaws with couple of redeeming qualities, no matter how absurd it may sound he has not been held back by his lack of intelligence and composure he has somehow managed to make a career out of it a restrained Bruno could not justify his position in the team as he simply won't produce the numbers needed to play such a mediocre player in the team .
I was watching him doing the square root of feck all yesterday and reminded myself he played the most minutes of any top level player last season, yet he never gets injured. so I'm thinking this is either A, he's a perfect athlete that trains well, looks after himself and is a model professional or B, he's not doing enough, jogging around looking busy, pointing and passing as soon as he receives the ball, did he actually make a tackle yesterday? I only recall a few petulant fouls. I think it's a misconception that he has a high work rate, he's the kid on the school team that makes a load of noise but backs off from anything physical.
I disagree. Other than having an iffy first touch and very limited dribbling ability, he is a well-rounded footballer technically. He's a great ball-striker, with terrific variation to his shots and passes when he engages his brain. He's shown he has a great final ball and create good chances at a good rate, and has scored a wide range of very good goals for us.
By far the biggest drawback with him is behind the eyes and between the ears. Zero composure nor understanding of game-states. He's a turnover machine because he can't help himself when making woeful decisions, not because he's inherently a crap technician. When things aren't going his/our way, I never trust him to turn the game around more than I expect him to lose his shit and play even worse.
At United I've never seen such a naturally talented footballer held back by such a severe lack of intelligence and composure. He's petulant beyond belief.
He's weak, physically and mentally, we were dominated by our rivals and he didn't get near any of them with anything remotely physical, i know he's seen as a genius by some, spraying passes like vintage Scholes, but he's also a midfielder and needs to get stuck in, particularly in games like this. He doesn't. His minutes to fitness/injury ratio support that, or at least look suspicious, but I'm clearly a glass half empty guy.As if there aren't enough things to criticise him for lately without making things up to turn his few positive traits into negatives as well.
I doubt anyone would have had an expectation when he was 18-22 years old that this is a player who would spend his prime years as the ‘star man’ at Manchester United, or similar.
He's weak, physically and mentally, we were dominated by our rivals and he didn't get near any of them with anything remotely physical, i know he's seen as a genius by some, spraying passes like vintage Scholes, but he's also a midfielder and needs to get stuck in, particularly in games like this. He doesn't. His minutes to fitness/injury ratio support that, or at least look suspicious, but I'm clearly a glass half empty guy.
What does that have to do with anything? De Bruyne was binned off by Chelsea at the age of 22, and nobody better than Wolfsburg thought he could be a star man for them. Does that mean he's not naturally talented either?
He always was naturally talented, and one of the best in the youth teams. Teams let naturally talented players go all the time, and we even did it with Pogba.
Bernardo Silva, Hazard, Wirtz, Musiala, Ødegaard etc are examples of naturally talented players, not Bruno Fernandes. A player that lacks technical skills isn't a naturally talented player.
Its not just a lack of injuries, he's always fully fit for every game, I find it a bit suspicious, he's in the heart of the game and he can manage to come out of it having used the exact amount of energy required. It's an impressive talent. If I choose to see a correlation between that and his performances then maybe I'm reaching, he's not the only one, but I do hold him to a higher standard of accountability than other players, i'm beyond looking at individual examples of him not performing and looking at the bigger picture with him. Unfortunately,I'm hitting my post limit with this one.He puts in about as much of a shift defensively as any attacking mid I can think of. Using the fact that he doesn't get injured much as a stick to beat him with is bizarre. He's in absolutely appalling form, fecks ten things up for every one thing he does right lately and he needs dropping, but I don't understand inventing new problems that he doesn't have.
If your definition of "not naturally talented" is actually just "not an elite dribbler", then sure.
The criticism of making him captain is daft unless you offer up an sensible alternative.
There is no one! (which is a separate problem)