Let's hope not. The last thing we need is another one of our midfielders busting a guy. Who needs another suspension, right?
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- Goals
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- Assists
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FfsThat was his 52nd match of the season. I cannot believe how much that guy plays. He could easily reach 70 games in a year, not for the first time.
The thing with Bruno is maybe a personal taste thing for me too. I grew up in an era wear the number 10’s felt like their ability to retain the ball and then pick the correct pass their main asset and I’m not sure I can say that’s Bruno. As has been mentioned I’d like to maybe see alternatives when available or just a more disciplined version of him.
I think that is mostly just the way football has moved on.
Even Kevin de Bruyne who many would think is one of the technically best mids/AMs around has an extremely low ball retention. I think people fail to realise just how low it is, probably because he plays for City and most of the players keep the ball so by association he's automatically within that bracket. Whereas we have more players in general that cough up possession and Bruno is one.
I think it's to do with increased specialisation. If the 10 is there primarily as an attacking player, which I think Bruno is because he is always extremely high, it becomes about game changing impact. Now we have ball playing defenders in addition to deeper midfielders that are also specialised, so a 10 playing with safety and secure possession often isn't warranted.
Oh yeah don’t get me wrong I’m not part of the everything was better in my day team. I’m always of the mind of use a players skills where they can have the most effect. That’s why I appreciate the fluid nature of Ten Hag’s teams. Also the fact there’s less space and teams are more tactically astute means teams have to be smarter in creating space thus opportunities. I like the fact that all players aren’t robots or clones thus I wouldn’t make to much of stats either. Everyone can impact a match regardless of skill set.
You must be following football just recently, at most since Barca's era. You need to watch even the best like Maradona, Platini, or Cruyff. Their passing rate must be the lowest in the teams.
Even under Fergie, before Quieroz coming in, we were high octane forceful team, with high turnover possession as we didn't really care about it. The tactic worked wonderfully in the League, but we fecked ourselves in Europe because it didn't work that way (not until Quieroz came in).
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This thread. Opinionated twats lacking clues, spouting ‘stats’. I came here to get info on how one of our top players, and the creative engine of our side, was doing in internationals. And I meet this dose of crap. There are so many who copy and try to outdo each other. Anyway, I put them all on ignore. Let’s hope Bruno gets a bit of a rest during these two weeks.
I’ve actually been watching football since the late 80’s but the first real season a remember was 92/93 maybe. Anyway I’ve seen multiple playmakers in that time and I’m aware that they are all capable of losing the ball. As stated previously I’m not big on stats thus don’t use them for opinions but you may be right. My issue with Bruno’s passing is more with sloppiness than attempting killer passes and losing the ball. Similar to issues I had with Pogba. You can’t deny the talent but maybe question the application.
Fair, agreed man. Sorry if my post sounded degrading.
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Nah no worries dude. Wasn’t taken negatively. I was a Barca fan pre tiki taka so go figure
Per minute stat cry babies, please note he’s actually played fewer minutes than players in first and second place.
Weird considering he's played more minutes than any other player in those same leagues.
Those stats are league only. I presume he’s topped the minutes played charts on the basis of time played in all competitions.
Bloody hell! Ten Hags comments about Arsenal being lucky with how much their best players where available where spot on.
Yup. Also interesting that Saka hasn’t missed a game injured all season despite spending at least as much time as Bruno rolling around on the ground in any given game. But he’s English, so couldn’t possibly be trying to con the ref.
Yeah but its the same with english pundits and Bruno all the time. Mitrovic situation clearly showed that bias more than anything else.
The impressive for me is Valverde. His stats stand out. Maybe I’m just rubbish at this stats thing. Factors his style of play, general positioning, role in team, etc that’s top level contributions. KDB for me when you consider all of the above, his contributions are bang average in the attacking phase.
Valverde is very impressive, indeed. Similarly to Antony he is able to get himself into shooting positions frequently, and he does so because he has an incredible foot.
I don't understand how you concluded with De Bruyne being average in the attacking phase, though? What are you seeing that I'm not?
I’m of the assumption he is quite involved in the buildup to assist phase of play due to his position and role in this City team. The build up 49 is something you’d expect from a wide man/deeper midfielder.
Build up to shot is not the same as shot-creating actions, in which De Bruyne is in the absolute top, so it's a strange thing to say he is average in the attacking phase, especially when he also is in the 99th percentile for assists and expected assists. Out of all the players on the list except Mbappé, he has played least minutes, so that's also something to keep in mind.
I understand what each one of those mean.
When you consider Rodri is at 107 and their play start with him KDB shouldn’t be at 49. The gap in contribution is too wide for a bridge between penalty box and midfield.
This is not any other team. I’d judge players in relation to the team they play for and their role. My judgement is primarily leaned on build up, the others figures might match up to everyone’s but it’s expected.
I might be clouded by the belief that Pep is not been entirely pleased with his contribution this season.
The poster is a City fan masquerading as a United fan on here. Don't be surprised by his lovin for De Bruyne. He's the same with any other City player.
They have 8 players that missed no more than 1 game in the league. They had big injuries on left back and striker, but before Jorginho and Trossard transfers the rest of the team was basically the same every week.
Has this ever happened before? It seems to be a really odd stat.
Sure it did. Did a quick scan and this season Brentford for example are on 8 as well and pretty much all teams are between 3 and 5 (Chelsea and Nottingham are the only clubs below that with 1 such player). Although I'd be surprised if any team that made a legitimate push for more than just the league was able to maintain squad like that.
You know perfectly well I'm not a City fan. Your love for Liverpool is a lot more sickening, to be honest.
So would you say Bruno's 10 more with 300 more minutes played is average as well?
De Bruyne's role is not to be a major part of their build up, which is why Rodri of course is higher on the list, but Rodri isn't better than KdB in the attacking phase. Rodri has 93.94 passes per 90 which makes him the number one in the world in amount of passes played while also maintaining 91.6% pass completion and 7.97 progressive passes.
It makes all the sense in the world that Rodri's numbers are so much higher than KdB when it comes to this specific stat.
In what way have I demonstrated any love for Liverpool?
I’ve always said Pogue Mahone...massive fan of ‘sequences leading to shots on goal from open play’ stats.
I get you but I’m in disagreement with your because your focus is primarily on what Rodri does whilst ignoring everything else that is supposed to happen after those 93.34 passes.
Let’s say for argument sake 25% of his passes are to KDB. So directly from Rodri he will receive 21 passes in x20 games, we are looking at roughly 400+ received passes. Only 105/25% productivity here. Any other players without fanfare we will be questioning.
Newcastle 2:0 Man Utd
And people call this guy "world class". What a joke
Man, I like Bruno. But he's one of the biggest reasons why we struggle so much in possession, particularly against big teams and ones that press us. Just has no composure on the ball, constantly attempts flicks and Hollywood passes -- this works often enough that he racks up goals and assists but it doesn't half put the team under pressure in games like today. Really need people like Eriksen and Casemiro to bring some sense of calm to the midfield.
Never has been. Has always been a level below that even at his best.And people call this guy "world class". What a joke
What's more annoying is how ETH seems to think he's this versatile all action midfielder when he's fecking terrible anywhere besides in that 10 role. That first half with him sitting deeper while McTominay played behind Weghorst was mind numbingly bad from all of them
I thinks he’s a fantastic player but when he’s not on it, he’s may as well be playing through balls to the opposition.
The 0/10 Bruno had shown up today.
What a weird player.
What a weird player.
Wouldn't get into that Newcastle team. If he did he would mess up their play.
Guys, you want link up play with McTominay, Sabitzer and Weghorst? He didn't deliver the ball to the oposition anymore than all his mates did.
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