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2020-21 Performances


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6.4 Season Average Rating
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58
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28
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Whether first or second, we were never winning that shootout. We have a Goalkeeper whose largest weakness comes down to balls in and around his area and being able to save penalties.

I imagine he's not a superstitious dude, so didn't care much for whether we went first or second.

The ridiculous nature of most of these posts is quite baffling.

Going first or second was so very irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, yet here people are, nitpicking on irrelevance.
You can claim as much as tou want that it does not matter, but in that study when over 1300 shootouts were analyzed, the team which shot first won in 60.4% of the matches. That is significant.

And the explanation is very easy. Most people score their pens. When you score, you put more pressure in the other team, which makes them less likely to score.
 
You can claim as much as tou want that it does not matter, but in that study when over 1300 shootouts were analyzed, the team which shot first won in 60.4% of the matches. That is significant.

And the explanation is very easy. Most people score their pens. When you score, you put more pressure in the other team, which makes them less likely to score.

Its all ok though because Bruno decided it was
 
After his explosive start, it was always a case of wait and see how good he really is once teams catch on to him.

Given that he is given such freedom both in terms of positioning on the pitch and with set pieces, his numbers will always be great for a team like Utd with talented players around him. But whether he is actually performing at the level that warrants such freedom is another matter.

From what I've seen of Bruno the past year, he's definitely not someone to build around and offer such freedom. Someone like Grealish or prime Hazard who could beat defenses on their own could get that honour sure, but Bruno isn't good enough for that.

It's not his fault at all, as he seems like the type of personality that would prefer being a cog in the system as long as the team wins. It's up to Ole to ensure that the team is structured to get the best out of every player and not just pander to a few individual players, something which he has failed to do.

Just like Rashford, Bruno's role needs to be reduced going forward with a focus being more on the collective, rather than having a superman who can get xxx stats from "midfield". Once we do that, we'll be a much better and more consistent team.
I don't get this. You think Bruno was having a freedom like the likes of Ronaldo?

I mean look at this guy's stats other than G+A. He is playing more than a player who has freedom.
 
Was poor on the night even his penalty was poor and very fortunate that their keeper dived over it.
 
I can’t wait for him to move on. He’s Jose Mourinho on the football pitch.
 
Whether first or second, we were never winning that shootout. We have a Goalkeeper whose largest weakness comes down to balls in and around his area and being able to save penalties.

I imagine he's not a superstitious dude, so didn't care much for whether we went first or second.

The ridiculous nature of most of these posts is quite baffling.

Going first or second was so very irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, yet here people are, nitpicking on irrelevance.
They could have bottled it if they were put under pressure.
 
Whether first or second, we were never winning that shootout. We have a Goalkeeper whose largest weakness comes down to balls in and around his area and being able to save penalties.

I imagine he's not a superstitious dude, so didn't care much for whether we went first or second.

The ridiculous nature of most of these posts is quite baffling.

Going first or second was so very irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, yet here people are, nitpicking on irrelevance.
Superstition :lol:

What's baffling is you thinking going first being preferable is a superstition ffs
 
Im sure he is joking, but I dont get it?

He's not but nobody really pays attention to him in here and he doesn't try and discuss it any further than his shite nonsense arguments so just posts shit like that every so often for a bit of attention.
 
He's not but nobody really pays attention to him in here and he doesn't try and discuss it any further than his shite nonsense arguments so just posts shit like that every so often for a bit of attention.
It’s strange I like the guy and thought his negativity was in good faith (as in not trolling), but surely this is just pure fishing? :lol:
 
28 goals and 17 assists in 58 games and yet a 6.4 season average score. I've never seen stats that are such polar opposites.
 
Going first or second was so very irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, yet here people are, nitpicking on irrelevance.
I just can't bring myself to agree with you when FIFA/UEFA even made a trial with ABBA and there is scientific evidence showing the advantage for the team going first. In a knockout tie, nevermind a final, you use the tiniest of advantages available. It seems incredible to me that the average Joe on a football forum knows of these statistics, but neither the coaching staff nor the captain of one of the biggest clubs in European football are aware. It shows a proper lack of detailed planning, and while I can excuse Bruno who was probably exhausted after 120 minutes, where the fecking feck was the coaching staff to give him instructions?

While I agree on DDG, it might have been a big difference for Villarreal's players to always go second. You don't smash in every penalty if you know the next one is going to cost your club the first trophy in their history. Genuinely pissed off even after a couple of days, fair enough we lost, but this type of either lack of planning or pure arrogance I can't excuse.
 
28 goals and 17 assists in 58 games and yet a 6.4 season average score. I've never seen stats that are such polar opposites.
He's the highest rated player on here with the most MOTMs. Shaw and Cavani are on 6.3. Generally the average ratings don't get very high anyway.
 
Not really the place for this discussion but rather than changing the penalties system I'd rather they played just fifteen minutes of regular extra time, then played on with a player from each side having to leave the pitch every two minutes until there were only five players left on each team, first to score wins.
 
He's the highest rated player on here with the most MOTMs. Shaw and Cavani are on 6.3. Generally the average ratings don't get very high anyway.

I guess it's an element of fans marking severely down after a defeat etc, hadn't realised the scoring was so harsh
 
28 goals and 17 assists in 58 games and yet a 6.4 season average score. I've never seen stats that are such polar opposites.
To be fair there are a good few games where he has scored or assisted which has papered over a bad performance. Personally wouldn’t have had him as our best player this season and Shaw who should have been is on a 6.3.
 
After a day, considering how the game went, i would say it was a subpar performance from him, Villarreal did try to actively stop him, which is expected from a team like them, but Bruno should've done better.

But the attacking trio were poor, especially Rashford, and with Bruno being poor on the night, the attacking threat was non-existent and they managed to nullify us.
 
You can claim as much as tou want that it does not matter, but in that study when over 1300 shootouts were analyzed, the team which shot first won in 60.4% of the matches. That is significant.

And the explanation is very easy. Most people score their pens. When you score, you put more pressure in the other team, which makes them less likely to score.
Whilst I agree that going second does pile on pressure (even on fans, let alone the players), on this occasion, the pressure didn't affect our players. They all scored (until DDG missed). The issue was more to do with DDG being more useless than a training cone between the posts.

I guess making Villarreal go second might have got their penalty takers a bit more nervous but even then, I couldn't imagine DDG being able to make a save.
 
Whilst I agree that going second does pile on pressure (even on fans, let alone the players), on this occasion, the pressure didn't affect our players. They all scored (until DDG missed). The issue was more to do with DDG being more useless than a training cone between the posts.

I guess making Villarreal go second might have got their penalty takers a bit more nervous but even then, I couldn't imagine DDG being able to make a save.
I guess we’ll never know, we might have still lost. But the thing is, this was the equivalent of having two doors, with door A having a 60% chance of having 1 million dollars on the other side of it, door B having 40%, being asked to choose one, and choosing door B. It is totally brainless to do so.
 
Hes been probably our best player along with Shaw all season, both though fell off it in last few games, it was noticable and I cannot blame them after long season 61 games I think and scheduled last few games of the season was nonsense, hampered everything. But Bruno has been top class for UTD.
 
Wow, supporters moaning about our best player in years over a coin toss. What a world. Can’t wait for the meltdown when he hands in a transfer request, if we have another trophy less season.
 
Penalties can’t be buy

We should have won the game in 90 minutes. Bruno was crying and in bits after a season where he gave everything. We need more quality around him. Rest him rashy fred Maguire AWB and Shaw even the odd time. Bring them on at 65/70 minutes if we are desperate. Hopefully Ole has learned a valuable lesson about rotation this season.
 
I guess it's an element of fans marking severely down after a defeat etc, hadn't realised the scoring was so harsh
Yeah when we lose if a player had an average performance they'll probably get a 4 and if we win and a player had an average performance they'll probably get a 6. If we have a great performance then it goes up to a 7, if we have a terrible performance probably average team score of 2 or 3. Draw probably a 4 or 5 too depending on opponent. Harshest scoring system out there...
 
Why? He was the captain, but he was one of the worst players on the pitch. He didn't really lead or push either, so....

No rational explanation. He is vice captain, Villarreal completely nullified him. He is allowed bad games after being one of our best performers during the season. Most players and the manager were at fault for not winning, but Bruno wasn't the reason we lost (if you ignore the coin toss)
 
I can’t wait for him to move on. He’s Jose Mourinho on the football pitch.
A bit harsh, but I tend to agree. He's a total poser on the football pitch. Sick to my stomach watching him yell at his teammates and the referees when he's the one to make a mistake instead of getting on with the game.
 
Penalties can’t be buy

We should have won the game in 90 minutes. Bruno was crying and in bits after a season where he gave everything. We need more quality around him. Rest him rashy fred Maguire AWB and Shaw even the odd time. Bring them on at 65/70 minutes if we are desperate. Hopefully Ole has learned a valuable lesson about rotation this season.

agree with the rotation part. Ole knows it. He just didnt have the squad for it. Hopefully next year will be better with proper signings. Bruno can not and should not play every game
 
agree with the rotation part. Ole knows it. He just didnt have the squad for it. Hopefully next year will be better with proper signings. Bruno can not and should not play every game
We've said similar things the past 2 seasons. I don't think much will change.
 
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