Brighton and Hove Albion 2024/25 season

SilentWitness said:
The loan is what I read and would make sense for both clubs.
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I’d be amazed if we helped out Brentford in anyway, our chairmen hate each other. Their owner used to work for Bloom his betting company, Starlizard he then left taking trade secrets and clients and set himself up as a competitor, they refuse to even speak to each other!
 
The Boy said:
I’d be amazed if we helped out Brentford in anyway, our chairmen hate each other. Their owner used to work for Bloom his betting company, Starlizard he then left taking trade secrets and clients and set himself up as a competitor, they refuse to even speak to each other!
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Do you think he will get more game time under the new gaffer?
 
The Boy said:
I’d be amazed if we helped out Brentford in anyway, our chairmen hate each other. Their owner used to work for Bloom his betting company, Starlizard he then left taking trade secrets and clients and set himself up as a competitor, they refuse to even speak to each other!
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Apparently he let my 7 year old nephew name his company.
 
SilentWitness said:
Do you think he will get more game time under the new gaffer?
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I’m sure he will, he’d have had a lot more last season as well if it hadn’t been for injury. He’s a proper talent
 
Great start, but can they keep it up? Gilmour is off to Napoli. They've sold all of their star players. They remind me of Monaco... a selling club.
 
Ghirahim said:
Great start, but can they keep it up? Gilmour is off to Napoli. They've sold all of their star players. They remind me of Monaco... a selling club.
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Gilmour is going nowhere now after O Riley’s injury and surgery the move to Napoli is off.
 
Sold Gilmour late to Napoli then as rumoured. He's become a key starter for them in last 18 months so I'm a bit confused by what they're going to do in that area now.

New manager likes Milner but let's be realistic he's nearly 40 so will need to be rested at some stage once Brighton start playing midweeks. Baleba will probably get a start tomorrow at Arsenal and Wieffer needs time to settle in and that seems to be it for pure central midfield options unless they've signed someone late?

I can remember you pushing Van Hecke into midfield for Fulham away last season and that didn't work at all so just a bit surprise you've had a splurge signing so many 10s and yet CM has been left relatively untouched.

Wanted Dewsbury-Hall before he went to Chelsea so you were looking at that area. Brajan Gruda signed this week from Mainz but he's listed as an attacking midfield aswell. Can only guess Hinshelwood will move back in now you've signed another LB but he really struggled there early last season and looked far more comfortable at full back.

Probably stops them seriously challenging the top 6.
 
The Boy said:
Gilmour is going nowhere now after O Riley’s injury and surgery the move to Napoli is off.
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It's been confirmed via the official Brighton Twitter account that he's off to Napoli. I told you they would sell him. Kaoru Mitoma will be sold in January.
 
Ghirahim said:
It's been confirmed via the official Brighton Twitter account that he's off to Napoli. I told you they would sell him. Kaoru Mitoma will be sold in January.
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They are a selling club in that they buy players for a bargain and then sell them at a percentage of profit that is the best in the country while still remaining a good Premier league club.

You read a rumour on the internet that was 50/50 and it happened on deadline day. Gilmour was not a star player for them, he was a hit or miss player with some good performances.

Mitoma also won't leave in January.

I'm not sure if this is why you're saying this (only reason I can think of) but some Utd fan's distaste for Brighton purely for having the temerity to play well against us is weird.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
I'm not sure if this is why you're saying this (only reason I can think of) but some Utd fan's distaste for Brighton purely for having the temerity to play well against us is weird.
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I think a football club having a tendency to frustrate the team you support is about the least weird reason to dislike them possible.
 
DOTA said:
I think a football club having a tendency to frustrate the team you support is about the least weird reason to dislike them possible.
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I've never found Brighton annoying. They play nice football, they do things the right way, their fans that I've met have always been very pleasant.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
I've never found Brighton annoying. They play nice football, they do things the right way, their fans that I've met have always been very pleasant.
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I don't think that's an unreasonable view. I think it's deeply unreasonable that you are trying to attack those who don't share it.
 
DOTA said:
I don't think that's an unreasonable view. I think it's deeply unreasonable that you are trying to attack those who don't share it.
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I think that a side purely being good and us not being able to beat them creates animosity like we have seen a few times on here since last weekend is silly.

If me calling that strange or silly is attacking them in your mind then we probably disagree on that also.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
I think that a side purely being good and us not being able to beat them creates animosity like we have seen a few times on here since last weekend is silly.

If me calling that strange or silly is attacking them in your mind then we probably disagree on that also.
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Calling behaviour weird is attacking it yeah.
 
DOTA said:
Calling behaviour weird is attacking it yeah.
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There have literally been threads on here wishing them relegated and the lad I quoted intentionally trying to insult one of their fans who is a good poster on here for no reason calling them a "selling club" in an intentionally insulting manner. I have no idea what you're on about honestly with "deeply unreasonable".

What's your point cause I'm struggling to find it?

A side being good and us not being able to beat them and then using that as a reason to wish them relegated, insult the club to their fans on here out of nowhere is weird behaviour.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
There have literally been threads on here wishing them relegated and the lad I quoted intentionally trying to insult one of their fans who is a good poster on here for no reason calling them a "selling club" in an intentionally insulting manner. I have no idea what you're on about honestly with "deeply unreasonable".

What's your point cause I'm struggling to find it?

A side being good and us not being able to beat them and then using that as a reason to wish them relegated, insult the club to their fans on here out of nowhere is weird behaviour.
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I've been very clear. My point is there is nothing wrong with disliking Brighton and Hove Albion FC and their tendency to get the best of us is more than reason enough to do so. That is a very normal thing in sport, always has been and always will be. It's not weird.
 
DOTA said:
I've been very clear. My point is there is nothing wrong with disliking Brighton and Hove Albion FC and their tendency to get the best of us is more than reason enough to do so. That is a very normal thing in sport, always has been and always will be. It's not weird.
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Nah it's weird. It's like developing an irrational hatred towards Portsmouth because they got a few results against us. A team doing what they are supposed to do is no reason.

They aren't a rival of ours, they play nice football, do things the right way, their fans are decent.

The fact that over the last couple of years some Utd fans have decided to dislike them as a club purely based on the fact they press well and don't leave space in the midfield is actually just Utd fans being angry at us not being good enough.

To then randomly be aggressive with their fans who chose to come on here and start threads wishing them relegation is weird.

I generally need a reason to dislike a club beyond them being decent at football.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
Nah it's weird. It's like developing an irrational hatred towards Portsmouth because they got a few results against us. A team doing what they are supposed to do is no reason.

They aren't a rival of ours, they play nice football, do things the right way, their fans are decent.

The fact that over the last couple of years some Utd fans have decided to dislike them as a club purely based on the fact they press well and don't leave space in the midfield is actually just Utd fans being angry at us not being good enough.

To then randomly be aggressive with their fans who chose to come on here and start threads wishing them relegation is weird.

I generally need a reason to dislike a club beyond them being decent at football.
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Yes they are. What you are describing here is a developing rivalry.
 
DOTA said:
Yes they are. What you are describing here is a developing rivalry.
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As you've chosen to not respond to my post properly for the second time I'll assume you have no real interest in discussing the thing you responded to.

Have a nice night.
 
DOTA said:
I am unsure what has upset you here but I respect your desire to drop it.
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I'm not upset in the slightest. You just are responding to tiny excerpts of messages and formulating points based on that which makes it impossible to discuss. Feels pointless.

I mean it, I hope you have a nice evening.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
I'm not upset in the slightest. You just are responding to tiny excerpts of messages and formulating points based on that which makes it impossible to discuss. Feels pointless.

I mean it, I hope you have a nice evening.
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That was not my intention at all, I felt you hit upon the precise nature of our dispute with the rivalry comment. You feel no rivalry with Brighton and so animosity to them is weird to you, others feel a rivalry and so to them it is natural.
 
DOTA said:
That was not my intention at all, I felt you hit upon the precise nature of our dispute with the rivalry comment. You feel no rivalry with Brighton and so animosity to them is weird to you, others feel a rivalry and so to them it is natural.
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Okay I think there is more to it because significant animosity based on being rivals for a club like Utd is that you're competing for something significant.

Maybe we have completed for a Europa League place before. I can't remember. Still it's weird to wish them relegation and attack their fans.
 
So now we know Ferguson is staying for the season are we expecting him to be starting the majority of games when fit or do we think they're taking a step back with him?
 
Brighton a rival? Wow.

In their history they have finished ahead of us 0 times.

In their history they have never knocked us out of a cup competition.

Our H2H with them is W21 D5 L8. We've played 37 English clubs more often than them and have a worse win % against 31 of those.
 
Recent events will always have a higher impact than historical ones.
Theres plenty of teams and players i hated over the years. I'm not sure rivals is the right word or maybe its too loaded when talking about football for them to be comparable. Stoke and Pulis i hated and there was no rivalry beyond playing them twice a season for a while. We had a pretty good record against them i think but i still hated them and wanted them relegated. Maybe thats a weak comparison because Brighton are quite enjoyable to watch. Maybe Brad Friedel works better - i hated him.
 
Really interesting interview with Tony Bloom in The Athletic today.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/57...-bloom-interview-brighton-psr-195m-transfers/

It's behind a paywall but the highlights for those who are interested...

On Brighton being the biggest spender in Europe behind Chelsea in the transfer window

At the start of the window, we knew there were going to be opportunities, we knew there were going to be quite a few incomings, quite a few changes. We probably did not envisage quite as much.

You never quite know how a transfer window will transpire — whether the players you want to bring in are going to be within the budget and are available — but the circumstances have allowed this (to happen).

The PSR circumstances of other clubs are well known. Other bigger clubs on the continent have not quite got the budgets to compete with some of the Premier League teams, so some of the players that perhaps would not have been available to us in the past have become available. And the way our transfers have worked in the last two or three windows has meant we lost some key players who we were not always able to replace straight away and we have invested a lot in young players.

Yankuba Minteh was a player we had followed for a while. We were certainly aware of him a year ago when he went to Newcastle (from Odense in Denmark). He had a fabulous season (in 2023-24 on loan at Dutch club Feyenoord). We knew about that and that deadline and we were able to get him in; a superb player, a young player who will hopefully improve as well. We were able to do that at the end of June and that was because of the PSR issues that certain clubs had.
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On Hurzeler's start
I am surprised about how quickly and how well he has settled. It is a very big move. He has only been a head coach of a professional football team for 18 months (with St Pauli from Hamburg in Germany) in the second division in the Bundesliga.

To come from doing so well there (St Pauli won promotion last season) into the Premier League — the toughest league in the world — has been a really exceptional progression. I am just really excited for him and for the team and what we can achieve, not just this season but beyond that as well. Fabian is more of a head coach. He is aware of players, but the model at St Pauli was that the recruitment is done more by the sporting director and the head of recruitment. In terms of shortlists and players to go for, that comes very much from the data, the recruitment team and the scouting.
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On De Zerbi

The process hasn’t changed, the philosophy hasn’t changed, but it is fair to say Fabian has bought into it a lot more than his predecessor. Roberto had thoughts on certain players, but that is not the way we as a club work. The club will decide on the players potentially to bring into the club, in conjunction with the head coach.
It’s not a situation, the way we work, that the head coach says, ‘I like this player and that player’, and that’s what we do (in terms of signings). If a head coach has some ideas, that comes in as part of the process, but a head coach really liking a player has got to fit many characteristics, it has got to fit with the data analysis we do.

When Roberto came in (in September 2022, after Graham Potter left to manage Chelsea), we explained the process and the philosophy. If there is non-alignment between the head coach and the club, things are never going to work out long-term.
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On his (Bloom's) future with Brighton

So much of what you do is about forward planning. Of course, you are still young (Bloom is 54). You have already said you are going to be at Brighton for years to come, but what would be the succession plan for the club without Tony Bloom?​

The great thing is we have great people working across the whole club, so when I am no longer chairman I would be very hopeful that my successor will inherit a very strong, very stable club with a brilliant fanbase and hopefully it can continue to have success for many years.

I foresee myself being here long into the future. Obviously, I could get knocked over by a bus tomorrow and hopefully things would be fine, but I am hoping to still be here in 15 to 20 years.
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He also chats about PSR and the changes coming this season and ducks a question about Man City's charges!

I think the last quote here about his future is the most important, Tony Bloom is the best thing to ever happen to Brighton and long may it continue.
 
Ole90+3 said:
Brighton has to be the best run club in the league. Got to admire their process.
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A lot of it came together when Dan Ashworth joined from the FA and I think Bloom and the club as whole learnt quite a bit from him and really refined our strategy.

Hopefully he'll do the same for you guys.
 
Brighton 3 Spurs 2
Well that's one I won't forget in a hurry, not sure what to make of Hurzeler, we are bonkers to watch at the moment, but it's always fun.

We were so bad in the first half and then came out as a completely different team in the second half.
 
There are 3 people we can learn a lot from: Brighton, Hove and Albion.
 
The Boy said:
Well that's one I won't forget in a hurry, not sure what to make of Hurzeler, we are bonkers to watch at the moment, but it's always fun.

We were so bad in the first half and then came out as a completely different team in the second half.
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Happy that you beat Tottenham. After their win against us, mostly because of wrong red card, they were all this and that in interviews. Let them talk now.
 
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