That's the problem with remainers, Phil has never been mentioned as a source.
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That's the problem with remainers, Phil has never been mentioned as a source.
Maybe Phil is Kuenssberg's "source" in No. 10
No that's what will happen, stockpiling for how long, it's not going away.
You hear about the queues at Dover or Calais and how many miles of queues could rapidly build up but the government suggest it's only for a short time, maybe three months - why would the queues suddenly disappear, there will still be the same restrictions.
The only reason the queues may lessen is that transporters and exporters will decrease their exports/imports to and from the UK because they don't want their drivers and trucks to be held up in endless queues costing them a fortune. The UK may no longer be worth the hassle.
So Cameron was misleading the people when he said it would be an in out referendum? To remain or come out altogether?
What has that got to do with the price of cheese? We're talking about how the "will of the people" is used as an argument whenever Brexit is discussed, especially when there's mention of having a second referendum, when clearly it isn't the will of "THE people" if it only represents less than 30% of the population who voted to Leave.
Ugh the pound has crashed quite badly. And it's getting worse day by day.
It was the terms of the referendum set out in the 2015 Conservative manifesto.
Also, this was the leaflet sent through everyone's doors. A very pro remain leaflet.
https://assets.publishing.service.g.../517014/EU_referendum_leaflet_large_print.pdf
Anyone see Kuenssberg on BBC 6 o clock news? She looked very haggard, stressed and on edge, clearly lost the twinkle in her eye. Also has some weird thing going on with her left lower lip when speaking.
It’s obvious the push back on her from last week has had an effect. I’m glad.
It’s obvious the push back on her from last week has had an effect. I’m glad.
Buying foreign currency has been a painful experience for a while, and it’s got gradually worse.....save for just after the ‘no no-deal’ bill was passed...when there was a brief rally
30% of the population. Three-zero. Trente percent. Treinta percento. That's the amount of the population of this country who voted to Leave. Not 52%, not a majority. A majority vote and a majority that shows the will of the people are two completely different things. Claiming to represent the will of the people is bad enough with such a fine margin of error but when it can only be categorically proven that less than 30% - a minority - voted for it, it becomes impossible to listen to or read the excuse and keep a straight face. Quoting whataboutisms and unrelated articles to the discussion at hand doesn't change that.
It's like I'm saying one thing but you're only hearing your own argument because you don't have a retort to what I'm saying. We really would be better off with an argument about why the colour of my pants means we should send more money to the EU every week.
She's upset because Boris probably will be too busy with parliament this week to give her his Johnson.
The terms of the referendum was voted on, and was passed into law. After the referendum, the terms of the departure was voted into law saying that we would leave on the 29th March 2019 with or without a deal.
You can question the wisdom of this, but it really doesn't matter if it's agreed upon legally and offered to the electorate in a one off democratic vote.
With Labour, LibDem and SNP and several Tory MPs all being either neutral, pro remain or pro 2nd Referendum, I’d say only c30% of parliament is also pro leave right now.
Tide has turned.
Her lover has just been deemed unlawful. She must be going through hell.
The most thorough demolition job i have seen on the Caf. Ease off on the fella now, let him lick his wounds.
Yeah
Ah, yes if course, the terms of the referendum and the promises that were made to the electorate. Thanks for posting the extensive Remain leaflet earlier, as a way of thanks allow me to post some Leave pledges during the run up to the referendum.
Because it's a good thing the electorate weren't deceived in any way. Just because Cameron says it's a "once in a lifetime" referendum doesn't make it so. This wasn't a referendum based on evidence, it was based on gut instinct. Much like the other vote we have every 5 years. 5 years is a long time for something to happen. So is 3 especially now our country is firmly in the shitter and seems intent on plunging itself further down the pan simply because "the will of the people". Plus you must appreciate the "once in a lifetime" comment was heavily influenced by the Scottish Indy Ref.
But, yeah, it basically means "gerronwiffit" doesn't it?
I don't think its turned. I don't think there was ever a tide. No one thought leave would win and everything since it did has been a mess of politicians trying to use it for political gain but having no idea how to. Whoever ends up responsible for it either happening or not happening is doomed.
If it goes ahead and goes tits up one or two might end up in front of the courts again, because it can quite easily still go bad enough for someone to need to be held accountable.
The word stockpiling in itself should concern everyone. This means that anything we can't stockpile, potentially we simply won't be able to get.
@esmufc07 do you approve that message?
Maybe should have said Phil's Nuclear Meltdown
In your opinion. Thanks for having a reasonable argument - I have learn't lots from reading your opinions.
My opinion is it is worth the hassle
Of course you can have your opinion but if you're importing items from the EU I have a feeling you may change your mind again if and/or when the UK leave.
You have deliberately misread my posts.
You have absolutely nothing of worth to say accept to attack people who do not believe in your ideals. I don't see any original thoughts or ideas flowing out of your keyboard.
We will be OK as I renegotiated our deals months ago but thanks for the advice.
Any other era, and he would have resigned already. He's shameless, like all populists.
Pedantic I know but it's not actually even 30% of the population.
17.4 million people voted to leave.
16.1 million people voted to remain.
13 million didn't vote.
18 million weren't on the electoral register.
So when "will of the people" is spouted it's more like 25% of the population.
And that 25% didn't vote for No Deal Hard Brexit.
This thread has been a right laugh today. Wow.Yeah
Ah, yes if course, the terms of the referendum and the promises that were made to the electorate. Thanks for posting the extensive Remain leaflet earlier, as a way of thanks allow me to post some Leave pledges during the run up to the referendum.
It's closer to £250M a week I believe, when funding is taken into consideration. That money can be used where needed. The bus argument was tried in a court of law, in an attempt to stop brexit. It was thrown out.
These quotes are meaningless from people who were not in the position to execute the decisions.
It was promised that the result would be accepted, and implemented.
The debates got very heated on both sides on the run up to the referendum.
Cameron said that Article 50 would be triggered immediately.
Obama said we would be at the back of the queue for a trade deal.
George Osbourne said an emergency budget would be needed after a leave vote.
So did they vote to leave on EU terms do you think?
You can't count the 18m not eligible to vote, that's like saying that toddler there didn't back no deal.
Deals with who? Tough to negotiate a deal for importing or exporting when you haven’t a clue what the tariff’s imposed will be.
For what it's worth I have friends and family that know that i take a keen interest in politics, i must have taken 20/25 phone calls and text messages asking me which way i was going to vote and the implications of each scenario.
I told them which way i was voting and my reasoning for my choice, but the point is that in my experience, Even with the campaign on both sides and the leaflets dropping through the door and the issue itself being firmly talked about all over the internet and TV in the run up to the referendum, a lot of people didn't know what they were voting for.
Perhaps i just have really dense people in my life.
It's only a flesh wound.
Most of them, yes.