Treason I say. Chuck him in the tower, at visiting time stick him in the stocks and let people throw particularly disgusting things at him.
Brexit related judicial reviews: Supreme Court | Judgment: Prorogation was unlawful
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How can people be of the opinion that the Irish backstop is nothing to the EU?
Do they think the single market means nothing to them as well?
Do they think the single market means nothing to them as well?
So what replaces the Backstop?
Couldn't be clearer, could it?
And now even he wants another referendum.
Absolutely. The UK had already stated that it would not have been the subject of further EU integration.
No, it’s scary to me that despite all that has happened in the past three years post the vote, the results of another referendum are unlikely to be overwhelmingly remain.
Nah its scary that soo many people would rather walk themselves off a cliff rather than just admit that they were tricked or that they voted on something they didn't have knowledge of. They would rather endanger the lives of their children, grandchildren and future linerage for this entrenched stubborness even when every conceivable thing in front of them is telling them its a bad idea.
Bear in mind that he suggested that UK should be members of the single market and custom union while being in their own jurisdiction. It's as if other countries interests don't really exist or matter.
He's also the CoS. Look at the things ex cabinet members are saying. He is running things.
Utterly, utterly deluded.
Very good question.
A fantasy. It is everything to them because it is everything to Ireland. Can't brexiteers understand this simple point?
Well it's a rather difficult thing to do, which is something leave voters don't seem to understand.
I've lost count of how many just get on with it remarks I've seen from members of the public. Like it's really simple or easy
Nothing about it is a bad idea. Nothing butt uncertainty is harming us. The rest is just you being scared by the things you choose to listen to.
Are you referring to the back-stop? The same back-stop that was proposed by the UK and not the EU?
Let's just address these points.
Elements of remain and leave were fined. Some of those fines were overturned (beleave). Two criminal investigations into leave found no evidence of illegal activity.
The 3 years of wasted time are primarily down to parliament, not leave voters. They have failed in their jobs, not only with regard to brexit but on all aspects of their role.
Not for long I would hope. He is an unelected bully boy who should be nowhere near government.
I said at the time. It was a big mistake of Boris.
The British people support fair play and dislike self opionated bullies.
and some then asking if it can be referred to the European courts.The irony in all of this is my favourite part. Many Brexiteers going on and on about taking the law away from EU courts and giving the power back to the UK, and then in this situation the UK courts are ruling against them
Well we'll see. If Boris pushes to leave on Oct 31st, we'll see the EU concede on this. Boris will then offer May's deal again to parliament with the Irish fix. That's what I think will happen.
Maybe they couldn't care less about Ireland. All they care about is little old England and feck everyone else. We'll do trade with the commonwealth, the commonwealth we told to feck off as we were joining the EU and didn't need them any longer. Good luck there.
They either do not understand or (more likely) simply do not give two shits about it and can't understand why anybody else does.
I'm afraid this is very much just a part of how a lot of the English tend to operate when it comes to such things.
What is this Irish fix again?
The EU are not going to concede on the back-stop. It may be tweaked slightly, it may even be renamed and rebranded but it will remain in place because there is no alternative. It may be difficult for you to grasp but the EU value the rights and views of their member states higher than those of the UK now.
Geoffrey Cox is in trouble.
Fecking English...
Someone in the government has leaked documents showing Cox's legal advice. Throwing him under the bus picking him up and throwing him under another bus
They are throwing Cox under the bus.
They going to shut down the Supreme Court now?
You guys really don't understand the EU. The Irish back stop issue was never even mentioned until Barnier brought it up as part of the initial negotiations.
It's a problem because the EU have made it a negotiating tactic. Everything the EU says is divinely uttered to you guys in this thread.
But as I said, if Boris isn't thwarted in his efforts to leave on 31st, you'll see movement on this by the EU. Watch and see.
Eh, you're probably right. I do think your repeated and consistent demonstrations that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about when it comes to the EU is probably a quality you do share with other Leave voters.
Ok great, so...
You guys really don't understand the EU. The Irish back stop issue was never even mentioned until Barnier brought it up as part of the initial negotiations.
It's a problem because the EU have made it a negotiating tactic. Everything the EU says is divinely uttered to you guys in this thread.
But as I said, if Boris isn't thwarted in his efforts to leave on 31st, you'll see movement on this by the EU. Watch and see.
WHAT REPLACES THE BACKSTOP?
You guys really don't understand the EU. The Irish back stop issue was never even mentioned until Barnier brought it up as part of the initial negotiations.
It's a problem because the EU have made it a negotiating tactic. Everything the EU says is divinely uttered to you guys in this thread.
But as I said, if Boris isn't thwarted in his efforts to leave on 31st, you'll see movement on this by the EU. Watch and see.
Oh I'll watch and see and will sit back with fascination as you try to wriggle out of having said this when the back-stop remains firmly in place in any deal. Please do tell us what the alternative is. Clearly to have such a firm view on it you have figured out what could be put in place to replace it.
Doubt its still 17.4m now as at least a few hundred thousand will have died each year since 2016 given the sheer number of older voters that voted leave in 2016.
You guys really don't understand the EU. The Irish back stop issue was never even mentioned until Barnier brought it up as part of the initial negotiations.
It's a problem because the EU have made it a negotiating tactic. Everything the EU says is divinely uttered to you guys in this thread.
But as I said, if Boris isn't thwarted in his efforts to leave on 31st, you'll see movement on this by the EU. Watch and see.
Don't mix idiocy with arrogance it's not a good look.
i'm sure you can arrive at why the irish backstop is not just a negotiating tactic by the EU
There's nothing Tories do better than stabbing each other in the back.
Of course they are allowed to disagree. However they must abide by it.
Nothing in law says you must agree with the law after all.
Good point, let's keep extending for another ten years then!
They can 'think' what they like. Problem is no-one can 'out think' the Supreme High Court. What they going to do, challenge the High Court? To whom? I dare them to go to the EU court.
Also BJ's mouthpiece (pun intended) doing her job.