He's trying his Jose impression and it hasn't come off like he thought it would. He had a leg up after he responded to Moyes' "favorites" comment but LVG's done a good job of balancing the scales alreadt. Until he wins something, he can't and shouldn't be classed alongside the top managers in the league. Nice try but Brendan's still up-and-coming - he hasn't arrived yet.
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From The Guardian article:
"Rodgers also urged Van Gaal to be wary of Manchester United’s owners, the Glazer family, considering how little time they had for his the Dutchman’s predecessor, David Moyes. He believes the controversial Americans let down the Scotsman Moyes by reneging on their original long-term plan of stability at Old Trafford.
'I think there were a lot of things at Manchester United that were not seen by many. He had to go in and where I felt for him is that he thought he was getting time All of a sudden when it’s not as hunky-dory as people think it is, you don’t get that opportunity. He signed a long-term deal and thought he had that longevity to do his work.'"
Rodgers is Reelo Baruk.
Didnt get enough time! Obviously those outside the club would have had Moyes in post as long as Sir Alex.
He never seems to have anything relevant nor interesting to say. He actually comes across as a bit thick in interviews. It will be fun watching his meltdown when they finish 5th this season.
Cheers. I'll sort of stick up for Rodgers by saying maybe he's trying to stuck up for a British manager who lost his job managing a top club, given the lack of British managers getting jobs at top clubs, but they've got to be good enough to get those jobs. Plus, if Moyes stayed, there's a fair chance Liverpool would beat perform well and possibly beat united once or twice this season. He's a tad naive to think that the Glaziers, whilst agreeing to give Moyes a 6 year deal, would readily accept failure of I'd proportions even before his first season came to a close.
I'm sure the winner of 7 league titles in 3 different countries and double European cup winning manager is keen to hear more from the winner of the best runners up of all time manager.
The day that rival fans say they like a United manager is the day we finish 7th in the league...
The day that rival fans say they like a United manager is the day we finish 7th in the league...
A rather odd and narrow definition of what makes a very good manager. I'd say turning around a squad that was laughed at by many (certainly here - a lot) and making them title challengers while playing some wonderful football is a far more significant. Improving players with a lot to prove has been his hallmark. I think the consensus is that he's done an excellent job at a behemoth of a club with a difficult recent history - no mean feat.
On the broader Rodgers v LvG debate that's emerged on here, it's a false dichotomy. One has been around for 20 odd years while the other is only just emerging. Of course LvG's record is impressive but does that mean it has to be thrown in Rodgers' face when he makes any point whatsoever about LvG or broader points about the league. It's a totally reductive and simplistic way of moving the debate forward. It's just point scoring. Rodgers is entitled to an opinion. To thrash about when he speaks comes across as defensive.
Heck, on here since April, Rodgers has gone from innovative, exciting manager to cliche-ridden imposter who dares to have an opinion.
Question for Liverpool fans. Would you guys be ok with a good run in the CL but a poor league standing or vice versa?
League unless a 'good run' meant win it! Another good league season would mean another top 4 finish which would mean establishing the club back into elite competition.
surely you mean from 1 June 2012
Thats fecking brilliant! If ever a man was trying too hard it's Rodgers.And the attempted mind games on van Gaal? A man with 0 trophies giving a man with 16 major trophies some condescending fluff about the PL. Think Brenton should stick to fake tan, teeth whitening and upgrading his girlfriend as his fame increases.
Most objective fans still consider him to be innovative and exciting when it comes to management. Its just when he opens his mouth and starts spewing mind numbing cringeworthy bile. A liverpool fan here admitted that much saying Brendan does talk nonsense in public at times.
Rodgers is just being cnutish. Van gaal has sent a scout to report on Valencia just for a friendly, the man has been involved in football all his life, i highly doubt he'll be caught by surprise by how physical and competitive the league is. I haven't played or managed in the premier league and i think i have a good idea about that just by watching so i think van gaal will be fine.
He's talking about players finding it difficult first and it's true, but van gaal isn't a player.
His comments about moyes are stupid but understandable, i'd want moyes to stay if i were a rival manager.
He's talking about players finding it difficult first and it's true, but van gaal isn't a player.
His comments about moyes are stupid but understandable, i'd want moyes to stay if i were a rival manager.
Think that was Bob Loblaw? The most balanced Liverpool fan on here. But the shit that comes out of Rodgers mouth is fine while they perform on the pitch. If things start going astray then he'll get a lot more stick from pool fans for it.
Brenton advising Van Gaal about pressure. feckin hell. Being associated with Liverpool really wipes out any semblance of logic and sense a person might have.The stuff he's said about LvG moving to the league is a general point made by virtually every foreign coach and player who arrive in the PL. Responding with a trophy list isn't necessarily countering the point Rodgers has made.
Regarding the way Rodgers speaks, I think it irritates rival fans mire than Liverpool fans. Being verbose isn't a crime.
He is very cringeworthy.
No one said it was, its just ridiculously funny and we are more than entitled to laugh at cringeworthy bile. Rodgers is a gift that keeps on giving.
About him saying LVG will be 'surprised' by the premier league. Its just a pathetic attempt at mind games which is being laughed off. Its just funny how Rodgers is 'warning' a manager who has 2 decades of experience littered with trophies about the competitive nature of the EPL. Its almost as though LVG was managing in the second division until 2011 and has just been managing in the top flight for 3 seasons. Oh hang on...
You think? They consider FSW a God, a manager who took them from 2nd to 7th. They will blame everyone except FSW for it. All a Liverpool manager need to do is stroke the delusion which exists among Liverpool supporters and then it doesn't matter what he does.
He comes across as having an inflated opinion of himself. No doubting he is an intelligent man and a good manager though. I rate him anyway, he's just cringe worthy in interviews.
Err.. I thought it was funny and a nice summation of Liverpool fans ?
ummm, I don't know about the other guy you quoted(which club's fan he is etc) and how it relates to my post.
For one season, with arguably the 3rd best player on the planet at his disposal. I rate him, but there's a lot of very good managers out there that have won titles and Champions Leagues. Rodgers' greatest achievement so far is guiding Liverpool to 2nd place. Think about it, in the greater scheme of things, he's done feck all yet.
Also, Rodgers giving Van Gaal advice is like a rabbit advising a tiger on how to hunt.
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That whole post pretty much proves my point. Is this going to be a theme of the season: question LvG and you get his CV shoved in your direction. It's not debate, it's not analysis, it's idolatry.
There fecking nothing to debate, it's pretty much a fact.
Rodgers is a good manager who talks a load of shite. End of.
Now everyone just...
Rodgers is a good manager who talks a load of shite. End of.
Now everyone just...
You're conflating achievement with trophies which I think is misguided. As achievement measures success from starting points whereas trophies measure outcome without context. For example, what's the better achievement: coming second with an unfancied squad that came 7th and 8th in previous two seasons OR winning the League Cup with a top 4 side? By placing Rodgers' achievements at Liverpool into context, measuring him in trophy haul alone is superficial in my opinion. The turn around he has already put into place is evidence enough that he's done a very good job. It's now whether he can do an excellent job or not.
As for the least sentence, can you or any United fan getting exorcised identify where Rodgers has dished out advice? All a bit of an over reaction.
His comments are really a thinly-disguised plea for time/patience from FSG should Liverpool do badly this coming season (in comparison to last term).
Exactly how I read it too.
We should have this chap on sack watch this season. I reckon it might happen. Wouldn't put it passed Liverpool.
When it comes to Rodgers why is pop-psychology so prevalent? People with preconceived prejudice attribute their own meaning to his comments to form a negative conclusion. It's bunkum.
Maybe wait for the fans to put up a "chosen one" banner first and a club legend to insist fans stand by him before placing him on sack watch...
I was somewhat annoyed that a Liverpool fan had such a cool username, but he's actually a really good poster, one of the only scouse fans that's actually worth reading. @Bob Loblaw law bomb
Exactly how I read it too.
Take a guess.
That's typical RAWK delusion. Rodgers has achieved one season in the top four with no European distractions. I've said he's done a very good job, but that's all he's done right now. I don't agree that he deserves to indefinitely be called a very good manager yet though. Only Liverpool fans would downplay winning trophies and titles to backup their manager.
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