Brentan Rodgers

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Revan said:
I really think that he has done a fine job this year. Wasn't expected that Pool will go to Champions this year. He has made some good signings in Sturridge and Coutinho, Suarez is playing much better, some young players he played did good (Sterling and to a lesser degree Suso). Even some of the dead woods are playing much better this season (Henderson and Downing).

Anyway, I don't think that they will finish in top 4 next season too, and things will become more complicated when they lose Suarez (IMO is pretty sure that he will leave next summer if they don't manage to go in Champions).

The problem is that Liverpool really was a midtable club (a term that has been used more as a joke). And unless you have a sugar daddy, it is very difficult returning to Champions, especially in England when we have United that are really a giant club in every way, Chelsea and City that have infinite cash, and Spurs and Arsenal who are well good clubs with good managers and have better players.

Personally, I think that it will be a success for BR if Liverpool manages to finish in top 4 in 2014-2015. But the signs are good and finally I can watch Liverpool without having headaches (a thing that wasn't possible since 2009 when they started they epic fall).
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It's very tricky, yes. It's possible that both Arsenal and Tottenham will return this fall with stronger teams - and both City and Chelsea will regard this season as a failure, and will definitely seek to strengthen. Then again Arsenal may equally well regress further. And Tottenham may lose Bale.

Much of Liverpool's chances of a CL spot next season depends on forces fully or partly beyond their control, one could say: The respective squads of Arsenal and Tottenham - and the possible offers made for Suarez.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
That's interesting - I didn't know that. If that's the case I owe Brenton an apology.

As for Kuyt - I can't really see why he should be a less attractive short-term alternative than Downing: Doing a job out wide, basically. And he would have been a possibility up front too. Then again if he wanted guarantees from the manager - well, he isn't good enough to justify that. And Rodgers obviously didn't plan on having so few striker options at the time.

Strange, that last bit. Who was that "other forward," one wonders? And why didn't it materialize?
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Downing is more inclined to stay out wide than Kuyt, which retains a certain shape. He's tidier on the ball and quicker too. I've been fairly pleased with Downing this season and I'd rather have him than Kuyt - less wages too.

The other forward was Dempsey it seems. The fan reaction at no signing on deadline day even forced J.W Henry to write an open letter to fans..
 
Revan said:
Even some of the dead woods are playing much better this season (Henderson and Downing).
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Henderson and Downing are hardly dead woods. They were OK to good players before joined Liverpool, but underutilized by KD. So, hardly BR bring out the best out of those two actually. He just get them to their original level on their previous clubs. To be fair, BR did try to flog out those two and deem them failed signings.
 
Isotope said:
Henderson and Downing are hardly dead woods. They were OK to good players before joined Liverpool, but underutilized by KD. So, hardly BR bring out the best out of those two actually. He just get them to their original level on their previous clubs. To be fair, BR did try to flog out those two and deem them failed signings.
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Kenny ruined Henderson's confidence by playing him on the right all season.
He looks a different player at the moment, far from the finished article, but a massive improvement.
To a degree same with Downing, always felt he has the quality yet often fails to produce, needs to score more goals but has done ok the last 3 months or so.
I can't see either leaving in the Summer.

Brendan needs to sort the defence out though, we are conceding far too many goals and look vulnerable at set pieces.

Wouldn't be surprised if we need 2 new centre backs, Carragher won't be around and I reckon Coates may be moved on too, a few rumours have been doing the rounds about Skrtel - who has been a shadow of the player he was last season.
 
Revan said:
I really think that he has done a fine job this year. Wasn't expected that Pool will go to Champions this year. He has made some good signings in Sturridge and Coutinho, Suarez is playing much better, some young players he played did good (Sterling and to a lesser degree Suso). Even some of the dead woods are playing much better this season (Henderson and Downing).
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The biggest worry should be that the two players who have made a difference, sturridge and coutinho, both have form for fading the longer they stay at a club.

Sturridge has done that everywhere hes been, even on loan, great few months to start with, then gradually becomes a passenger.

Coutinho kind of did the same at inter to an extent.

If that happens again to these guys, I think pool have real problems.
 
ShadesOfTomato said:
Downing is more inclined to stay out wide than Kuyt, which retains a certain shape. He's tidier on the ball and quicker too. I've been fairly pleased with Downing this season and I'd rather have him than Kuyt - less wages too.

The other forward was Dempsey it seems. The fan reaction at no signing on deadline day even forced J.W Henry to write an open letter to fans..
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Now that you mention it I do remember that episode: Memory like a goldfish these days - I blame the Internet.

At any rate the affair must have been rather clumsily handled - the slightly awkward question is how much of it should be laid on Rodgers himself. I do find it strange that a manager allows himself to get trapped in such a position, but I obviously don't know the details.
 
johnny boy said:
Kenny ruined Henderson's confidence by playing him on the right all season.
He looks a different player at the moment, far from the finished article, but a massive improvement.
To a degree same with Downing, always felt he has the quality yet often fails to produce, needs to score more goals but has done ok the last 3 months or so.
I can't see either leaving in the Summer.

Brendan needs to sort the defence out though, we are conceding far too many goals and look vulnerable at set pieces.

Wouldn't be surprised if we need 2 new centre backs, Carragher won't be around and I reckon Coates may be moved on too, a few rumours have been doing the rounds about Skrtel - who has been a shadow of the player he was last season.
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I agreed that it's nice to have Downing around, as he's a proven league player, and you can expect consistent performance that can last the whole season. He's not a world beater (pun intended), but every team need a player like him (regardless of his price tag). And your young squad would need some experience on the side. Unless of course the owner (again) wants to lower the wage cost and buy younger player.

Good centerback is hard to come by. But Spurs struck gold with Vertonghen, and City with Nastasic. So there are few gem out there waiting to be found. Heard that you're linked with Swansea's William. Just be careful giving Swansea good money, though.
 
Isotope said:
I agreed that it's nice to have Downing around, as he's a proven league player, and you can expect consistent performance that can last the whole season. He's not a world beater (pun intended), but every team need a player like him (regardless of his price tag). And your young squad would need some experience on the side. Unless of course the owner (again) wants to lower the wage cost and buy younger player.

Good centerback is hard to come by. But Spurs struck gold with Vertonghen, and City with Nastasic. So there are few gem out there waiting to be found. Heard that you're linked with Swansea's William. Just be careful giving Swansea good money, though.
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Yes seen that link too, no doubt there will be plenty more rumours coming along.
 
"I thought were outstanding. Wasn't their goalkeeper wonderful? With a little more luck, we'd have more luck. And so would the group. Going forwards, we continue to go forwards until we go backwards etc etc etc."
 
SteveJ said:
"I thought were outstanding. Wasn't their goalkeeper wonderful? With a little more luck, we'd have more luck. And so would the group. Going forwards, we continue to go forwards until we go backwards etc etc etc."
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Yeah, I also always blame it on the opposing goalie, if Dortmund has a day of waisting chances ;)
 
That's not actually a genuine Rodgers quote - I just copy n' paste an old one after every Liverpool game.
 
kouroux said:
It's harder and harder to differentiate between wind ups and genuine Rodgers quotes
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which is amazing as the OP praises him for being clever and talking sense which was true at the time. Then he goes to liverpool. theyre the only club capable of brainwashing the staff the way they do....hodgson paid the price for not failling for it.
 
Brendan Rodgers after 0-0 draw at Reading (via BBC): "We created enough chances to win a couple of games. We are very disappointed we didn't win. Their goalkeeper was outstanding and on another day the goals go in. It was as good a goalkeeping performance as I have seen in a long time. I can't ask anything more of the players except that we should have been a wee bit more clinical. Our creativity and movement was very good. But we just didn't do final bit - that is to put the ball in the net - and that cost us."
 
SteveJ said:
But we just didn't do final bit - that is to put the ball in the net - and that cost us."
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SER19 said:
which is amazing as the OP praises him for being clever and talking sense which was true at the time. Then he goes to liverpool. theyre the only club capable of brainwashing the staff the way they do....hodgson paid the price for not failling for it.
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Hodgson was plain rubbish, let's be honest.

He's now proving it at international level
 
SteveJ said:
Brendan Rodgers after 0-0 draw at Reading (via BBC): "We created enough chances to win a couple of games. We are very disappointed we didn't win. Their goalkeeper was outstanding and on another day the goals go in. It was as good a goalkeeping performance as I have seen in a long time. I can't ask anything more of the players except that we should have been a wee bit more clinical. Our creativity and movement was very good. But we just didn't do final bit - that is to put the ball in the net - and that cost us."
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Captain Obvious to the rescue......

How insightful.
 
"Remember, lads: Progress equals Success - PES. Say it after me, Progress equals Success. Progression is the road to achievement, and that's The Way All Teams Succeed; TWATS."
 
We were shite but still did enough to win comfortably.

Players look half arsed now that we're nailed on for 7th.
 
Isotope said:
:D It could be used for the Caf new auto-correct.

"Oh, just feck off, you The Way All Teams Succeed face!!".

The Caf would be more friendly place.
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They'd have to auto correct cnut to Suarez to match it, though!


"You're one huge useless Suarez, you know that...?"


Actually, that might be a worse insult...
 
Earthquake said:
They'd have to auto correct cnut to Suarez to match it, though!


"You're one huge useless Suarez, you know that...?"


Actually, that might be a worse insult...
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This could be one of those new changes, Niall has been banging about.


In case you missed my welcome post on the General,

Welcome up, Earthquacko!
 
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