It was 343 which has worked well against good teams in the past three months.The arrogance of this lad. Plays our 352 for the first time against us earlier in the season and gets humbly classed. Comes back months later thinking he's mastered it better than Van gaal, and gets thumped again.
Well according to this place for the past 18 months he's built a side with identity and a way of playing. You only have to go back to the City game to read it all over RedCafe.
He loses a game - admittedly a big one - and he's without direction and vision. Ok then...
While I fully expect a circle jerk on here tonight it's a tad premature.
I actually agree with this.This is all a bit after-the-event stuff. To suggest that LvG has fitted into the PL like a glove without some serious questions posed about his ability to adapt would be completely false.
Two things, Rodgers was stating a pretty obvious point which was true about managers coming from abroad. Secondly, Rodgers speaks very highly about LvG. The reaction on here to it all was a tad OTT.
It was 343 which has worked well against good teams in the past three months.
Oh shit !Best thing is, the 'far hand' is not even his
I guess you've gotta front up...Nice of you you didnt hide today.
Didnt notice your other mates.
Anyway what do you say about the game.
Agree with most of it.I guess you've gotta front up...
As for the game, United were excellent for 30 minutes. Totally bossed it. The Lallana chance was a big moment but it actually unnerved United a bit and they lost their way a tad.
We will never know if Rodgers' half time changes would have changed things as Gerrard had a brain fart. I think United could and should've been out of sight by the time Sturridge scored. Gave us some hope but led to nothing really.
I thought Fellaini, Herrara and Mata were very good. Jones is a yard dog and Rooney did his usual disappearing act at Anfield - the one player who wasn't at it, even early on. Di Maria also stunk the place out a bit.
Which bit.I actually agree with this.
Which bit.
I would say that the likes of Pochettino, Koeman, Ancelotti, Mancini, Pellegrini and Mourinho have done alright in their first season. Do not even think LVG is doing bad. Even Liverpool managers of past (GH, RB) have not done too bad. So what BR was saying was just bollocks and trying to play mind games.
As for BR being a good manager, still to be proven in my eyes. We can mock United spending $250M when the team finishes 7th and loses 4 key senior players. However, let's not forget that BR nearly won the league last year and has spent $180M+to basically finish below where he finished last year, maybe not even get into Europe. Wenger spent close to $120M and is close to probably finishing in the same place as last year. City spent a few bob, and going to lose the title. Chelsea spent a tidy sum, and still got found out in Europe. So we can't slag off LVGs spending without putting it into context.
BR historically has done little to get such acclaim. Yes, last year Liverpool played some nice stuff, but when the going got tough, he could not handle it. He has done little this year to suggest he is a top manager. Seriously found out in Europe, in both competitions.
I don't think he will - it was kind of an emergency solution to our early struggles this season and worked out very well, but going forward it's not the system I'd want us to play. Can needs to be played in midfield, it's early days of course but I have high hopes for him if he develops the right way and steers clear of injuries. Sterling is able to do a decent job defensively but most of his talents are wasted there like we all saw today. Henderson-Can as a midfield duo with Coutinho in front of them is a very dynamic midfield and should give plenty of freedom and opportunities for all our tricky wingers like Markovic, Ibe, Sterling or even Lallana. Next year's system will be dependant on who we buy in the summer but I'd be surprised if it's still the 3-4-3.He didn't have a good game tactically but he was let down massively by his captain. The wingback spots are a real issue for Liverpool it seems - with Ibe out anyway. Will be interesting to see if Rodgers persists with it next season.
We lost arguably the best striker in the world this summer, definitely need to take that into account if you mention your own "4 key senior players". Everyone knew it was going to be very, very hard to repeat our title challenge last year. Realistically, I'd be looking at a top four challenge and perhaps a trophy and although it now seems that will be difficult to achieve, we're still in the mix.Which bit.
I would say that the likes of Pochettino, Koeman, Ancelotti, Mancini, Pellegrini and Mourinho have done alright in their first season. Do not even think LVG is doing bad. Even Liverpool managers of past (GH, RB) have not done too bad. So what BR was saying was just bollocks and trying to play mind games.
As for BR being a good manager, still to be proven in my eyes. We can mock United spending $250M when the team finishes 7th and loses 4 key senior players. However, let's not forget that BR nearly won the league last year and has spent $180M+to basically finish below where he finished last year, maybe not even get into Europe. Wenger spent close to $120M and is close to probably finishing in the same place as last year. City spent a few bob, and going to lose the title. Chelsea spent a tidy sum, and still got found out in Europe. So we can't slag off LVGs spending without putting it into context.
BR historically has done little to get such acclaim. Yes, last year Liverpool played some nice stuff, but when the going got tough, he could not handle it. He has done little this year to suggest he is a top manager. Seriously found out in Europe, in both competitions.
If you ignore the slip against Chelsea, as like you say he couldn't do a lot about that, what about 3-0 up at Crystanbul. He needed to change things, but he didn't. He had a group of players on the top of their game, full of confidence and when the confidence got a beating, he couldn't turn it round. All this they needed goals, well that worked for them didn't it. The points were the important bit.Not sure about that bit. I mean, he couldn't do much about Gerrard slipping. You raise some decent points otherwise.
Realistically, I'd be looking at a top four challenge and perhaps a trophy and although it now seems that will be difficult to achieve, we're still in the mix.
We lost arguably the best striker in the world this summer, definitely need to take that into account if you mention your own "4 key senior players". Everyone knew it was going to be very, very hard to repeat our title challenge last year. Realistically, I'd be looking at a top four challenge and perhaps a trophy and although it now seems that will be difficult to achieve, we're still in the mix.
Yeah he's applauding him for almost getting a penalty out of it.Did he actually say Skrtel deserves credit for trying to get the ball?
"He is trying to get the ball. You see his foot up, that is a symbol when a player is just trying to get his toe on the ball because if he does that and the keeper brings him down, it is probably a penalty."
'Dear Mr Rodgers, Mario can't play today because he's forgotten his kit.
Love, Mrs Mario.'
'Dear Mr Rodgers, Mario can't play today because he's forgotten his kit.
Love, Mrs Mario.'
what a fecking idiot. He's quietly becoming one of the most unlikable characters in Premier League.Yeah he's applauding him for almost getting a penalty out of it.
Did you expect anything different? pretty much all managers are hypocrites under these circumstances.After he made such a big deal about Costa stamping, his comments about Skrtel and Gerrard are embarrassing.
Couldn't have put it better.I guess you've gotta front up...
As for the game, United were excellent for 30 minutes. Totally bossed it. The Lallana chance was a big moment but it actually unnerved United a bit and they lost their way a tad.
We will never know if Rodgers' half time changes would have changed things as Gerrard had a brain fart. I think United could and should've been out of sight by the time Sturridge scored. Gave us some hope but led to nothing really.
I thought Fellaini, Herrara and Mata were very good. Jones is a yard dog and Rooney did his usual disappearing act at Anfield - the one player who wasn't at it, even early on. Di Maria also stunk the place out a bit.