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The arrogance of this lad. Plays our 352 for the first time against us earlier in the season and gets humbly classed. Comes back months later thinking he's mastered it better than Van gaal, and gets thumped again.
It was 343 which has worked well against good teams in the past three months.
 
Well according to this place for the past 18 months he's built a side with identity and a way of playing. You only have to go back to the City game to read it all over RedCafe.

He loses a game - admittedly a big one - and he's without direction and vision. Ok then...

While I fully expect a circle jerk on here tonight it's a tad premature.

He has. Pulis does this as well though.

Rodgers is clearly a fantastic coach nobody reasonable would try to deny that, whether or not he's destined to be a top class manager capable of beating his rivals is in question though
 
This is all a bit after-the-event stuff. To suggest that LvG has fitted into the PL like a glove without some serious questions posed about his ability to adapt would be completely false.

Two things, Rodgers was stating a pretty obvious point which was true about managers coming from abroad. Secondly, Rodgers speaks very highly about LvG. The reaction on here to it all was a tad OTT.
I actually agree with this.
 
Nice of you you didnt hide today. :)

Didnt notice your other mates. :)

Anyway what do you say about the game.
I guess you've gotta front up...

As for the game, United were excellent for 30 minutes. Totally bossed it. The Lallana chance was a big moment but it actually unnerved United a bit and they lost their way a tad.

We will never know if Rodgers' half time changes would have changed things as Gerrard had a brain fart. I think United could and should've been out of sight by the time Sturridge scored. Gave us some hope but led to nothing really.

I thought Fellaini, Herrara and Mata were very good. Jones is a yard dog and Rooney did his usual disappearing act at Anfield - the one player who wasn't at it, even early on. Di Maria also stunk the place out a bit.
 
I guess you've gotta front up...

As for the game, United were excellent for 30 minutes. Totally bossed it. The Lallana chance was a big moment but it actually unnerved United a bit and they lost their way a tad.

We will never know if Rodgers' half time changes would have changed things as Gerrard had a brain fart. I think United could and should've been out of sight by the time Sturridge scored. Gave us some hope but led to nothing really.

I thought Fellaini, Herrara and Mata were very good. Jones is a yard dog and Rooney did his usual disappearing act at Anfield - the one player who wasn't at it, even early on. Di Maria also stunk the place out a bit.
Agree with most of it.

Fair play to you. :)
 
He screwed up today.

Your man sent off, you need a calm head who will keep hold of the ball for you. Brings on balotelli when Lambert is sat on the bench.

Balotelli could have gone too, had he not had the crowd hold him back, and I could tell you that was going to happen before he set foot on the pitch.
 
He didn't have a good game tactically but he was let down massively by his captain. The wingback spots are a real issue for Liverpool it seems - with Ibe out anyway. Will be interesting to see if Rodgers persists with it next season.
 
I actually agree with this.
Which bit.

I would say that the likes of Pochettino, Koeman, Ancelotti, Mancini, Pellegrini and Mourinho have done alright in their first season. Do not even think LVG is doing bad. Even Liverpool managers of past (GH, RB) have not done too bad. So what BR was saying was just bollocks and trying to play mind games.

As for BR being a good manager, still to be proven in my eyes. We can mock United spending $250M when the team finishes 7th and loses 4 key senior players. However, let's not forget that BR nearly won the league last year and has spent $180M+to basically finish below where he finished last year, maybe not even get into Europe. Wenger spent close to $120M and is close to probably finishing in the same place as last year. City spent a few bob, and going to lose the title. Chelsea spent a tidy sum, and still got found out in Europe. So we can't slag off LVGs spending without putting it into context.

BR historically has done little to get such acclaim. Yes, last year Liverpool played some nice stuff, but when the going got tough, he could not handle it. He has done little this year to suggest he is a top manager. Seriously found out in Europe, in both competitions.
 
Which bit.

I would say that the likes of Pochettino, Koeman, Ancelotti, Mancini, Pellegrini and Mourinho have done alright in their first season. Do not even think LVG is doing bad. Even Liverpool managers of past (GH, RB) have not done too bad. So what BR was saying was just bollocks and trying to play mind games.

As for BR being a good manager, still to be proven in my eyes. We can mock United spending $250M when the team finishes 7th and loses 4 key senior players. However, let's not forget that BR nearly won the league last year and has spent $180M+to basically finish below where he finished last year, maybe not even get into Europe. Wenger spent close to $120M and is close to probably finishing in the same place as last year. City spent a few bob, and going to lose the title. Chelsea spent a tidy sum, and still got found out in Europe. So we can't slag off LVGs spending without putting it into context.

BR historically has done little to get such acclaim. Yes, last year Liverpool played some nice stuff, but when the going got tough, he could not handle it. He has done little this year to suggest he is a top manager. Seriously found out in Europe, in both competitions.

Not sure about that bit. I mean, he couldn't do much about Gerrard slipping. You raise some decent points otherwise.
 
He didn't have a good game tactically but he was let down massively by his captain. The wingback spots are a real issue for Liverpool it seems - with Ibe out anyway. Will be interesting to see if Rodgers persists with it next season.
I don't think he will - it was kind of an emergency solution to our early struggles this season and worked out very well, but going forward it's not the system I'd want us to play. Can needs to be played in midfield, it's early days of course but I have high hopes for him if he develops the right way and steers clear of injuries. Sterling is able to do a decent job defensively but most of his talents are wasted there like we all saw today. Henderson-Can as a midfield duo with Coutinho in front of them is a very dynamic midfield and should give plenty of freedom and opportunities for all our tricky wingers like Markovic, Ibe, Sterling or even Lallana. Next year's system will be dependant on who we buy in the summer but I'd be surprised if it's still the 3-4-3.

Which bit.

I would say that the likes of Pochettino, Koeman, Ancelotti, Mancini, Pellegrini and Mourinho have done alright in their first season. Do not even think LVG is doing bad. Even Liverpool managers of past (GH, RB) have not done too bad. So what BR was saying was just bollocks and trying to play mind games.

As for BR being a good manager, still to be proven in my eyes. We can mock United spending $250M when the team finishes 7th and loses 4 key senior players. However, let's not forget that BR nearly won the league last year and has spent $180M+to basically finish below where he finished last year, maybe not even get into Europe. Wenger spent close to $120M and is close to probably finishing in the same place as last year. City spent a few bob, and going to lose the title. Chelsea spent a tidy sum, and still got found out in Europe. So we can't slag off LVGs spending without putting it into context.

BR historically has done little to get such acclaim. Yes, last year Liverpool played some nice stuff, but when the going got tough, he could not handle it. He has done little this year to suggest he is a top manager. Seriously found out in Europe, in both competitions.
We lost arguably the best striker in the world this summer, definitely need to take that into account if you mention your own "4 key senior players". Everyone knew it was going to be very, very hard to repeat our title challenge last year. Realistically, I'd be looking at a top four challenge and perhaps a trophy and although it now seems that will be difficult to achieve, we're still in the mix.
 
Not sure about that bit. I mean, he couldn't do much about Gerrard slipping. You raise some decent points otherwise.
If you ignore the slip against Chelsea, as like you say he couldn't do a lot about that, what about 3-0 up at Crystanbul. He needed to change things, but he didn't. He had a group of players on the top of their game, full of confidence and when the confidence got a beating, he couldn't turn it round. All this they needed goals, well that worked for them didn't it. The points were the important bit.
 
Realistically, I'd be looking at a top four challenge and perhaps a trophy and although it now seems that will be difficult to achieve, we're still in the mix.

Yeah, those two and possibly knockout stages of CL (after groups were drawn) would have been the realistic aims.

I agree with you on next year's system being unlikely to be 343. Think there'll be quite the overhaul this summer. Diamond probably suits you most overall, but you've got a lot of wingers/attacking players to fit in
 
We lost arguably the best striker in the world this summer, definitely need to take that into account if you mention your own "4 key senior players". Everyone knew it was going to be very, very hard to repeat our title challenge last year. Realistically, I'd be looking at a top four challenge and perhaps a trophy and although it now seems that will be difficult to achieve, we're still in the mix.

Definitely in the mix for 4th. However, for BR, he had funds to buy another top striker. Liverpool then would have had the same squad as last year with a strong front line. The likes of Can, Moreno and Markovic could have still been bought to give a stronger balance. He went for Balotelli and Lambert. Very very strange decision. It is akin to United only replacing Evra. Also, not sure that Lallana has done much to suggest he was a good buy.

Add to that the fact that Sterling is now playing a different role which doesn't quite seem to suit him and I start to doubt BR as a top manager. Good PL manager no doubt, but so is fat sam, Pardew and Pullis.
 
Did he actually say Skrtel deserves credit for trying to get the ball?

"He is trying to get the ball. You see his foot up, that is a symbol when a player is just trying to get his toe on the ball because if he does that and the keeper brings him down, it is probably a penalty."
 
'Dear Mr Rodgers, Mario can't play today because he's forgotten his kit.
Love, Mrs Mario.'
 
'Dear Mr Rodgers, here's another envelope for you.'
 
"Dear Rodge, Thank you for letting me honk your horn last night... but why do keep insisting I wear the full home kit and a fake scouse mustache?"
 
Did he actually say Skrtel deserves credit for trying to get the ball?

"He is trying to get the ball. You see his foot up, that is a symbol when a player is just trying to get his toe on the ball because if he does that and the keeper brings him down, it is probably a penalty."
Yeah he's applauding him for almost getting a penalty out of it.
 
After he made such a big deal about Costa stamping, his comments about Skrtel and Gerrard are embarrassing.
 
Yeah he's applauding him for almost getting a penalty out of it.
:lol: what a fecking idiot. He's quietly becoming one of the most unlikable characters in Premier League.

He's quite awful in crucial fixtures. Lost to disinterested 2nd string Chelsea side when they needed a draw to win the league, outplayed by every single team they have met in Europe, lost to us when it looked like they could catch us. Questions have to be asked about motivation and team's set up for big games.
 
After he made such a big deal about Costa stamping, his comments about Skrtel and Gerrard are embarrassing.
Did you expect anything different? pretty much all managers are hypocrites under these circumstances.
 
So Brenda looks at that sequence of play and believes that Skrtel makes contact as he attempts to legitimately go for the ball?
And Souness wants us to believe Rogers understands football.
 
I guess you've gotta front up...

As for the game, United were excellent for 30 minutes. Totally bossed it. The Lallana chance was a big moment but it actually unnerved United a bit and they lost their way a tad.

We will never know if Rodgers' half time changes would have changed things as Gerrard had a brain fart. I think United could and should've been out of sight by the time Sturridge scored. Gave us some hope but led to nothing really.

I thought Fellaini, Herrara and Mata were very good. Jones is a yard dog and Rooney did his usual disappearing act at Anfield - the one player who wasn't at it, even early on. Di Maria also stunk the place out a bit.
Couldn't have put it better.
 
^ That is the weirdest face I've ever seen.

Anyway, shoot me, but I think Brendan is a very good young manager. I'm hoping the 'Yanks' is not patient enough with Liverpool progress, fire him, then hire this foreign manager with 'sexy' name.
How is Ruud Gullit doing these days?
 
BR strikes me increasingly as a text book manager. He has his ideal team that hes copied from various other managers (including LVG) but he doesnt seem to fully understand it. When its not going well hes got no idea why, and if a team sets out to nullify his perfect system he cant adapt it to counter. Reminds me a lot of the repetition style of learning common across parts of the world.

Hes a good manager but i think there will always be a few out there who outthink him every time.
 
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