Brentan Rodgers
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Was about to say not quite, until I remembered this:
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Ha, yes! 
Saved a one-on-one against Berbatov too, if I remember.
Unless he played in goal those stats are appalling.
The difference between him and Moyes is that Moyes don't spout as much bullshit as he does and for good reasons, our fans don't lap it up like they do.
Against Robbie Keane. Must've been great at the next Irish training camp.
It's interesting how he manages his signings, they seem to go through players so fast, either because they are totally useless and awful signings to begin with - which raises questions in itself - or they don't fit Rodgers plans, even as squad players for whatever reason. Looking through the players who have come and gone, it's crazy to see how few of them from 12-13 still play regularly.
Summer 2012
Fabio Borini, £10.5m, Roma Loaned to Sunderland after one injury-plagued season and fee agreed for transfer this summer Miss
Joe Allen, £15m, Swansea City Good player when not injured but has not been fit often enough to secure a regular role Undecided
Oussama Assaidi, £2.4m, Heerenveen Erratic winger who joined Stoke City for a second season-long loan in the summer Miss
Samed Yesil, £1m, Bayer Leverkusen Striker bought for the future but has had a dreadful time with injuries Miss Nuri Sahin, loan, Real Madrid Viewed as a coup upon arrival, ushered out after six months Miss
January 2013
Daniel Sturridge, £12m, Chelsea Rodgers has finally unlocked the striker’s rich potential but fitness record a concern Hit
Philippe Coutinho, £8.5m, Inter A key part of Liverpool’s attacking game though his end product needs to improve Hit
Summer 2013
Luis Alberto, £6.8m, Sevilla Former Barcelona starlet made only nine senior appearances before joining Málaga on loan in summer Miss
Iago Aspas, £7.2m, Celta Vigo Delivered a dreadful corner against Chelsea last season. And that was it Miss
Simon Mignolet, £9m, Sunderland Started confidently at Anfield but failure to command his area has spread unease among defence Miss
Kolo Touré, free, Manchester City Experience was needed after Jamie Carragher’s retirement but Ivorian has faded rapidly after a promising opening Miss
Tiago Ilori, £7m, Sporting Lisbon Only 21 and not featured for Liverpool yet. Loaned to Granada last season, Bordeaux this Undecided
Aly Cissokho, loan, Valencia One to forget. His best appearance at Anfield came with Aston Villa this season Miss
Mamadou Sakho, £19m, PSG Rodgers does not appear convinced by the second most expensive defender in Liverpool’s history Miss
Victor Moses, loan, Chelsea Complained about a lack of playing time but never seized the opportunity when it came Miss
Summer 2014 … the verdict so far
Rickie Lambert, £4.5m, Soton His dream move has been one of frustration so far, with only three starts and no goals Undecided
Adam Lallana, £25m, Soton Missed the first month with a knee injury but improving along with his fitness Undecided
Emre Can, £9.8m, B Leverkusen Injured while with Germany Under-21s and so barely seen. Yet to make an impact Undecided
Dejan Lovren, £20m, Soton Given the big billing by Rodgers but had an awkward start. Gradually imposing himself Undecided
Javier Manquillo, loan, At Madrid A decent start. Willingness to support the attack won a crucial penalty against Ludogorets Undecided
Alberto Moreno, £12m, Sevilla Caught out on his debut at Manchester City but the tenacious, quick left-back looks the part Hit
Divock Origi, £9.8m, Lille Loaned back to Lille as a condition of the transfer Undecided
Lazar Markovic, £20m, Benfica The most disappointing of the summer intake so far. Needs time, and games, to adapt Miss
Mario Balotelli £16m, Milan Too early to make a call on the end-of-window signing, which is just as well for the Italian Undecided
Hit and miss: Liverpool signings under Brendan Rodgers
Summer 2012
Fabio Borini, £10.5m, Roma Loaned to Sunderland after one injury-plagued season and fee agreed for transfer this summer Miss
Joe Allen, £15m, Swansea City Good player when not injured but has not been fit often enough to secure a regular role Undecided
Oussama Assaidi, £2.4m, Heerenveen Erratic winger who joined Stoke City for a second season-long loan in the summer Miss
Samed Yesil, £1m, Bayer Leverkusen Striker bought for the future but has had a dreadful time with injuries Miss Nuri Sahin, loan, Real Madrid Viewed as a coup upon arrival, ushered out after six months Miss
January 2013
Daniel Sturridge, £12m, Chelsea Rodgers has finally unlocked the striker’s rich potential but fitness record a concern Hit
Philippe Coutinho, £8.5m, Inter A key part of Liverpool’s attacking game though his end product needs to improve Hit
Summer 2013
Luis Alberto, £6.8m, Sevilla Former Barcelona starlet made only nine senior appearances before joining Málaga on loan in summer Miss
Iago Aspas, £7.2m, Celta Vigo Delivered a dreadful corner against Chelsea last season. And that was it Miss
Simon Mignolet, £9m, Sunderland Started confidently at Anfield but failure to command his area has spread unease among defence Miss
Kolo Touré, free, Manchester City Experience was needed after Jamie Carragher’s retirement but Ivorian has faded rapidly after a promising opening Miss
Tiago Ilori, £7m, Sporting Lisbon Only 21 and not featured for Liverpool yet. Loaned to Granada last season, Bordeaux this Undecided
Aly Cissokho, loan, Valencia One to forget. His best appearance at Anfield came with Aston Villa this season Miss
Mamadou Sakho, £19m, PSG Rodgers does not appear convinced by the second most expensive defender in Liverpool’s history Miss
Victor Moses, loan, Chelsea Complained about a lack of playing time but never seized the opportunity when it came Miss
Summer 2014 … the verdict so far
Rickie Lambert, £4.5m, Soton His dream move has been one of frustration so far, with only three starts and no goals Undecided
Adam Lallana, £25m, Soton Missed the first month with a knee injury but improving along with his fitness Undecided
Emre Can, £9.8m, B Leverkusen Injured while with Germany Under-21s and so barely seen. Yet to make an impact Undecided
Dejan Lovren, £20m, Soton Given the big billing by Rodgers but had an awkward start. Gradually imposing himself Undecided
Javier Manquillo, loan, At Madrid A decent start. Willingness to support the attack won a crucial penalty against Ludogorets Undecided
Alberto Moreno, £12m, Sevilla Caught out on his debut at Manchester City but the tenacious, quick left-back looks the part Hit
Divock Origi, £9.8m, Lille Loaned back to Lille as a condition of the transfer Undecided
Lazar Markovic, £20m, Benfica The most disappointing of the summer intake so far. Needs time, and games, to adapt Miss
Mario Balotelli £16m, Milan Too early to make a call on the end-of-window signing, which is just as well for the Italian Undecided
Hit and miss: Liverpool signings under Brendan Rodgers
It's a great laugh actually watching this guy unravel more and more before our very eyes
Then what is he? Screams Cleverley.
I think he's quite convincing in his interviews and the way he puts his points across. But you're right a lot of the time it's just smoke and mirrors and they're fans seem to gobble it all up, only for him to need more smoke and mirrors 7 days later.
Bang on. Those are Cleverly-like stats. But I'd wager Barney thinks Allen is a lot better.
This is a quite good evaluation. What I would have changed is: Markovic to undecided (he's very young) and Lovren, Balotelli and Lambert to miss (all of them have been awful).
Even this Origi kid they bought has been underwhelming to say the least, it's like every transfer Rodgers is involved in, turns the player into shit.
I've seen him play quite a bit this season and he has done well in a shite Lille side.
Yeah and I'd change Toure to hit too. Couple other ones that people won't agree if I said them, so I won't.
He has been average in the league and alright in the Europa League. Honestly not the kind player that's going to be much of a help, he's too early in his development to leave now.
Toure might be a hit considering that he was a free transfer, agree.
He should have played much more this season.
It's a bit shit when two of the three success signings are Moreno and Coutinho, two inconsistent players.
People need to pipe down with the "Oh but they lost Suarez"
2009/10 - Manchester United lost Ronaldo AND Tevez. Still won the league cup, came within a point of winning the league and would have won it if Antonio Valencia didn't fluff a one on one.
2013/14 - Spurs lose Gareth Bale. While not doing anything spectacular, it was the same old Spurs that we've become used to.
2009/10 - Manchester United lost Ronaldo AND Tevez. Still won the league cup, came within a point of winning the league and would have won it if Antonio Valencia didn't fluff a one on one.
2013/14 - Spurs lose Gareth Bale. While not doing anything spectacular, it was the same old Spurs that we've become used to.
It's his Spurs quote that is damning.
This isn't just about Rodgers signings though, Liverpool's transfer records have been shit long before he arrived.
I like to be damning
Not just his Spurs quote... his quotes about not feeling sorry for unambitious Southampton is cringe-worthy as well.
What game was that in?
Duncan Castles for what it's worth :
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ready-looking-for-brendan-rodgers-replacement
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ready-looking-for-brendan-rodgers-replacement
Blackburn is coming to mind but I might be wrong.
The press should really throw those quotes back at him next time it comes around for them to play Spurs/Saints. Would be funny as hell watching him muster a response.
Blackburn away, finished 0-0. It was something like 4 games before the end of the season and we lost by 1 point.
The article is about 6 weeks old. Id say almost every player they bought this summer has gone backwards since the end of October. Balotelli and lovren are definite misses now.
Blackburn, 0-0, clean through in the first 20 mins.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...ville-questions-extent-of-liverpools-spending
Like anyone would be crazy enough to give him clean 140m. to spend.
Like anyone would be crazy enough to give him clean 140m. to spend.
Also the way he said Louis van Gaal would struggle in the premier league acting as if he wouldn't. He had absolutely no respect for Louis van Gaal's credentials and ability when he made that statement and overrated his own, if we had injuries more like Liverpool then Rodgers' statement would be even more stupid.
Neville strikes again! It is amazing how unbelievably stupid he looks whe he goes into these full defenses for British players/managers.
In some parts he sounds like he is defending Rodgers and poking Liverpool.Also if they gonna mention net spend,i would also like to know,how big impact wage funds suffered for selling one and buying X players.
Neville's on the wine these days clearly. He'll be asking the girls to get their tits out Andy Gray style next.
Where does G.Nev expect the money to come from? Are the Red Sox meant to hand Liverpool a blank cheque book or something? It's all very well saying £40m isn't enough to add to the Suarez money if you want to follow that argument, but his answer seems to be simply that "Rodgers should get more to spend" - how? I admit to not knowing anything about the state of Liverpool's accounts, but my guess is the reason they don't spend like the sugar daddy clubs, Real, Barca and now ourselves, is maybe because they don't have that much money to spend like that...?
Add to that the budgeting for turning Anfield into a significantly larger stadium than it is now (which again I'm guessing the club has to pay for) then I'm not seeing much insight here from Neville based on any sort of reality.
Are there any pundits in football that give any consideration to where money for spending-sprees actually comes from? Surely they have to be able to identify that things are different for clubs that earn their own money to invest? Are sugar daddy arrangements meant to be considered the norm now or something? Is it just assumed now that to be a elite European club, then the owner will pump in hundreds of millions of their own money every transfer window? Or would a Leeds-like scenario be better, just spend and spend and spend and hope it magically gets paid for?
There does seem to be widespread difficulty by many football pundits/commentators/hacks to identify the difference between clubs like us or Liverpool spending our earned money within the appropriate budget vs. a sugar daddy club, so I suppose anything on finance in football shouldn't surprise me any more, but reading that a club like Liverpool haven't given the manager enough money compared to sugar daddy clubs or much bigger clubs like Real, Barca and ourselves isn't even schoolboy stuff.
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