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He won't see out the season at this rate.

I don't know what's happened behind the scene at Liverpool, but they really were playing some fantastic football last season. Only in the Tottenham game earlier this season did they look like the same side as last season. Obviously losing Suarez was a huge blow, but really something else is going wrong back behind the scenes there?
 
cesc's_mullet said:
He won't see out the season at this rate.

I don't know what's happened behind the scene at Liverpool, but they really were playing some fantastic football last season. Only in the Tottenham game earlier this season did they look like the same side as last season. Obviously losing Suarez was a huge blow, but really something else is going wrong back behind the scenes there?
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Not behind the scenes, but we lost the top two goalscorers in the league. Any team would struggle to cope with that.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
He won't see out the season at this rate.

I don't know what's happened behind the scene at Liverpool, but they really were playing some fantastic football last season. Only in the Tottenham game earlier this season did they look like the same side as last season. Obviously losing Suarez was a huge blow, but really something else is going wrong back behind the scenes there?
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I do think there's a strong chance he's alienated at least part of the dressing room.
 
Barney said:
Not behind the scenes, but we lost the top two goalscorers in the league. Any team would struggle to cope with that.
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True, losing Sturridge is another huge blow - though I get the feeling if he was playing and scoring it would be papering over some of the cracks. It's the whole style he has Liverpool playing now, it's in stark contrast and it seems to have sucked or is sucking the life out of Sterling too.
 
Barney said:
Not behind the scenes, but we lost the top two goalscorers in the league. Any team would struggle to cope with that.
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When you combine that with having a bad transfer period, you have what you do now. He really messed up there.
 
I'm looking forward to Sturridge coming back.

Because you know it won't last long and he will be out for another long stretch soon enough :drool:
 
Barney said:
Not behind the scenes, but we lost the top two goalscorers in the league. Any team would struggle to cope with that.
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He had the chance to build a squad that mitigated Sturridge being out. You state it like Suarez is still a pool player and out injured, and you have have two strikers out injured.
 
I don't know what he's playing at at the moment. No sign of Enrique for ages then just appears in a massive game, then gets subbed at half time for the player who should've started. No Lallana or Coutinho in the starting line-up in favour of defensive players in midfield. Can has looked good when he's played but can't seem to get a look-in. And then Markovic who's looked too raw when he's played this season comes on at HT instead of Lallana or Coutinho.

His decisions today were just just weird.
 
When Studge comes back, he'd have been out for 4 months? Won't be easy to hit the ground running. He'll need 3/4 games at the minimum.

It's good to laugh at Liverpool this season after last season, they have lost about 80% of their goals over the course of the last few months and I think most teams would struggle with that.

Then again, we haven't had a stable defence all season and been ravaged with injuries, but we're doing much better.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
When you combine that with having a bad transfer period, you have what you do now. He really messed up there.
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Definitely should have picked a more reliable option than Balotelli as a second choice striker I think.
 
Minimalist said:
I do think there's a strong chance he's alienated at least part of the dressing room.
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It seems Sakho is on the outer. Borini, for better or worse has disappeared of the face of the planet, and I think Rodgers is dirty he didn't take the move when it was offered to him (probably fair enough from both parties too).

Why can't Lallana and Coutinho get games? I thought those two would be two of the first picked in his side as they're two players that can actually create something and are exciting to watch.

Personally I'd be playing Sterling, Lallana, Coutinho and Markovic as much as possible along with Henderson. They have futures for mine, the rest.... Not so much.
 
VanGaalEra said:
When Studge comes back, he'd have been out for 4 months? Won't be easy to hit the ground running. He'll need 3/4 games at the minimum.
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Nice part about him is he always has hit the ground running for us whenever he's come back from injury

VanGaalEra said:
Then again, we haven't had a stable defence all season and been ravaged with injuries, but we're doing much better.
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All your centre backs are about the same level though which makes it less of a worry.
 
I am genuinely surprised by how bad this season's been for them. I expected a considerable drop off (as everyone bar their fans did) but not to this extent. It can't just be the Suarez (or even Sturridge) factor. They were fluid and creative in midfield last year. But this year? Well, you can't really look past Moysian. The summer signings look like terrible business.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
It seems Sakho is on the outer. Borini, for better or worse has disappeared of the face of the planet, and I think Rodgers is dirty he didn't take the move when it was offered to him (probably fair enough from both parties too).

Why can't Lallana and Coutinho get games? I thought those two would be two of the first picked in his side as they're two players that can actually create something and are exciting to watch.

Personally I'd be playing Sterling, Lallana, Coutinho and Markovic as much as possible along with Henderson. They have futures for mine, the rest.... Not so much.
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Basel would have scored another 1-2 if he didn't play it tight.
 
Barney said:
You clearly have not watched us recently.



And does well until he gets sent off.
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Nah I haven't, haven't really noticed him at all until tonight (Enrique). He's been playing a lot then?

Did you agree that bringing on Markovic in favour of Lallana was the right call?
 
Barney said:
Nice part about him is he always has hit the ground running for us whenever he's come back from injury



All your centre backs are about the same level though which makes it less of a worry.
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I agree about our CB, as opposed to Lambert, who I felt sorry for by the way. That was his 5th straight game in about 15/16 days? He was always going to struggle.

Has Studge ever been out for as long as 4 months?
 
thegregster said:
Basel would have scored another 1-2 if he didn't play it tight.
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If that is the case then why? The tactics have totally changed, the players looked sapped of any confidence...

I watched them dick a win against Stoke and they were putrid in this match, and any other time I've watched them this season (bar the Tottenham game where they were superb) they have been a totally different team to last season. The change is incredible.
 
Mockney said:
I am genuinely surprised by how bad this season's been for them. I expected a considerable drop off (as everyone bar their fans did) but not to this extent. It can't just be the Suarez (or even Sturridge) factor. They were fluid and creative in midfield last year. But this year? Well, you can't really look past Moysian. The summer signings look like terrible business.
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I'm convinced that Moyes statue, along with Moyes leaving, truly cursed them.
 
Barney said:
He's been injured before that and Rodgers has said he cannot play multiple games each week.

You said there hadn't been a sign of him for ages, you were wrong.
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Yeah OK, sorry. My point was it was a weird decision to play him and Markovic. Moreno is much better than Enrique. Coutino and Lallana are much better than Markovic. At this moment at least.

The fact that Enrique played a game against Stoke which I mistakenly didn't notice, doesn't change my opinion about the above decisions being wrong.
 
Had a disastrous season so far but last season was probably the absolute peak performance from that team, which has now lost their best player and Gerrard a year older. They lacked depth before and they lacked quality in defense for a while. Still don't think Rodgers will be sacked this season at all. On the back of last season he's bought himself a bit of time and trust. Rightly so I think. But he needs to make some significant purchases for the first 11.

They are now in the Europa League playing on Thursdays right? Worse than finishing fourth IMV with that lack of depth.
 
So Liverpool needed to score twice and he decides to take off his only recognised striker?...

The guy has such an ego that instead of making straight forward decisions he trys to do the smart and clever thing to make him look like a tactical genius.
 
Barney said:
He's been injured before that and Rodgers has said he cannot play multiple games each week.

You said there hadn't been a sign of him for ages, you were wrong.
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You can't really be justifying the José Enrique decision, surely? He's lucky to be in the squad, can't believe Rodgers picked him ahead of Alberto Moreno - I'd even rather Johnson played left back again.

Jammydodger7 said:
So Liverpool needed to score twice and he decides to take off his only recognised striker?...

The guy has such an ego that instead of making straight forward decisions he trys to do the smart and clever thing to make him look like a tactical genius.
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That's one of the few things I think he got right tonight. Lambert wasn't up to it, and like against Real Madrid we looked better in the second half without a lump up top.
 
On the lack of striker issue, we're not privy to what goes on in the dressing room. By the sounds of it, Lambert is knackered after playing 5 games on the trot (or something like that). It's better to have 11 fit players than carry a passenger at half time. The bit you could possibly criticise Rodgers for is having just 1 striker fit and him being Rickie Lambert but that's a bit unfair as well.
 
Jammydodger7 said:
So Liverpool needed to score twice and he decides to take off his only recognised striker?...

The guy has such an ego that instead of making straight forward decisions he trys to do the smart and clever thing to make him look like a tactical genius.
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Every single Liverpool supporter throughout the city was crying for him to take Lambert off. There's plenty of things to beat Rodgers about this season, this is a load of shite though. Lambert was abysmal and Markovic did well when he came on.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
You can't really be justifying the José Enrique decision, surely? He's lucky to be in the squad, can't believe Rodgers picked him ahead of Alberto Moreno - I'd even rather Johnson played left back again.



That's one of the few things I think he got right tonight. Lambert wasn't up to it, and like against Real Madrid we looked better in the second half without a lump up top.
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It's time for Rodgers to back in the players that have a future at the club - play Moreno, Lallana, Coutinho, Markovic, Henderson and Manquillo (though I doubt he will return after the loan?).
 
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