To be honest though Scholes came out of retirement and saved our season, that's stuff you should never forget.United fans never did that with Scholes, Giggs, Rooney or anyone ever.
Gerrard is nowhere near that level.
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Gerrard is nowhere near that level.
Yeah, but everyone whines about that, saying we should have just dropped Pogba into the deep end.
dont know if posted before....
Couldn't agree more but those facts still didn't stop some shouting him out and then shouting some more at him coming back in.
On Stevie, the longer it goes on like this the more neutrals and even pool fans will see the difference in real class.
I'm all for it, new contract please.
We probably should have when we look at his progress but that's done, and in no way would Pogba have affected our season in remotely the same way Scholes did so for me the decision is vindicated, unfortunate yes but vindicated, the point is the gulf in class between Scholes and Gerrard is becoming more apparent as time wears on.
Yes please, with starting DM being part of the deal.
Just want to say, respect to Rodgers for not only telling LVG how the Premier League is really tough but for also demonstrating.
Top man.
Top man.
Yeah I wouldn't regard last season as a fluke and just claim that Suarez and Sturridge were the sole reasons for their 'success'. You could make those kind of statements at Tottenham with Bale (12/13) or heck even United with Rooney (09/10) but not last season's Liverpool.
Sturridge and Suarez were integral players for them but they weren't as reliant on them as some here make them out to be.
Those two had great individual seasons (as did Sterling, Henderson and Gerrard) but the real highlights of Liverpool last season were their team ethic and their ability to play cohesive and fluid football. They weren't exactly a team who played scrappy football and relied on 1 or 2 moments of genius from their forwards to bail them out.
Once they started to get going last season you knew they were going to blow apart most teams, even some of the good ones, with their high tempo and good attacking football. It was a frightening and an unpleasant prospect seeing them like that. It wasn't as though the team altogether suffered when Suarez or Sturridge had bad games although they rarely did.
Ultimately it was a pretty good attacking unit with a shite defense shielded by a slow Gerrard (to his credit was pretty crucial to their attacking football with his passing and ability to keep things ticking along) and Henderson (a box to box midfielder expected to contribute defensively and offensively, leaving a lumbering Gerrard to shield a leaky defense singlehandedly at times).
Luck and the goalscoring form of their prime forwards obviously played a significant part as is the norm for most teams who have a good season but you can't say Liverpool of last season were just a 1 or a 2 man team.
I feel dirty just complimenting their team of last season but I don't mind reminding the Pool fans how shit their team is this season compared to the last
.It's primely Rodgers fault for the state the team is right now.
Suarez leaving was a huge blow but they did get a windfall for it. So you go for Sanchez, a creative and goalscoring player with great team ethic and work rate. Perfect tailor made replacement who might even let Sturridge flourish more by being the sole spearhead. Too bad you don't get him
. Then you try to get Remy, a decent option but you drop out of that deal to get Mario feckin Balotelli, a sulky immobile forward with no inkling of team ethic. I mean seriously?Then you get Lovren who proceeds to achieve the impossible by degrading an already turdlike defense. The crown turd to top it all off...
You neglect the midfield by getting a relative unknown 20 year old who is more for the future and a rotation option. A midfield which has an ageing Gerrard, an overburdened Henderson, a past it Lucas and a decent at best Allen.
You drop more clangers along the way by sticking with underperforming first teamers and overplaying the likes of Gerrard and Sterling who clearly need a rest. You remain obstinate sticking to a 4-3-3 and refuse to change to a diamond, a formation in which the team played its best football all season against Spurs. Oh and you retardedly persist with Balotelli as a lone forward when it clearly isn't working and underuse Lallana, who has been decent, for some reason.
Then YOU deserve what's coming to you really...
Tbf players like Can, Moreno and Manquillo have been decent and are still young. The likes of Markovic, Illori and Origi might come good one day as well. Injury to Sturridge and poor individual performances hasn't helped but some of Rodgers decisions and management has been downright shocking.
Words just keep coming back to haunt him don't they.
Can I just say: scary lips. Anyone thought that? Are they permanently dry or something?
Come on Brentan, show us ya moves:
He believes in his own hype - clearly part of a the problem. He seems to have alienated certain players (perhaps even a dangerous amount of them), which you simply can't afford to when you're in his position. Last season is all but forgotten now outside the inner circles of RAWK, where they no doubt still have readings by candlelight of the many books that were written - by their own members by the looks of - about that heroic journey. More lucid people seem to be quite fed up - and some of these may include his own players. I don't think he has necessarily lost the dressing room - but I wouldn't be surprised if he's pretty close to doing it.
He keeps playing Starfish - and that'll be the end of him if he doesn't realize pretty soon that Starfish at this point is a folk hero more than an actually useful footballer for a manager who needs to win games. If he doesn't mend his ways he'll be releasing his autobiography come spring: "Fecked By A Starfish - The Brentinho Story."
He keeps playing Starfish - and that'll be the end of him if he doesn't realize pretty soon that Starfish at this point is a folk hero more than an actually useful footballer for a manager who needs to win games. If he doesn't mend his ways he'll be releasing his autobiography come spring: "Fecked By A Starfish - The Brentinho Story."
Have Paddy Power started sticking the boot in yet? ...didn't think so.
Words just keep coming back to haunt him don't they.
According to Phil Thomson £20m net................
It's what happens when you go to the sun beds on a daily basis.
Actually love the Southampton and Tottenham quotes, what an idiot
I think, even amongst United suppoters, they'd be a greater degree of sympathy for him had he not been so cringe-inducingly arrogant at times. Zero humility.
Remember Liverpool fans' banner last season?
"Brendan Rodgers - The carefully chosen one"
"Brendan Rodgers - The carefully chosen one"
Yep! And all that without acchieving anything. Mourinho is the same, but at least he has success to back it up.
So, who is the next ex-Liverpool man who will make a massive PR campaign to get Brentan's job?
Yes.
Fraudgers.
Actually love the Southampton and Tottenham quotes, what an idiot
Don't forget this one either:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26591288
That is just rude, either So'ton do well or not. Very rude and out of order.
He's right, you know. We've had to settle for Di Maria instead of Adam Lallana.
What worried me, watching Rodgers on MOTD2 last night, was that he looked every inch a manager who "wants" to be sacked. He looked a defeated man. Say what you want about LVG, but he'd NEVER look like that. #RodgersMustStay ello
He's inexperienced and hasn't won anything whereas LVG has won loads and even mentored some top managers. You can't expect them to have the same belief in their own abilities. If Rodgers goes on to achieve great things, you bet he wont look flustered in tough times.
True. Big "if" tho
How the feck do you post vines?
You're comparing a veteran manager who has been multiple times on this position with a novice manager?
I agree with that overall, but to be perfectly fair, his interview yesterday was fine, for once. He wasn't his arrogant self and was very realistic about how they did. For the first time in ages, I had some sympathy for him, I think he's struggling big time and must be feeling the pressure.
He looked really beaten in his post match interview. The next few months will be his biggest test as Liverpool manager. If he can do a Pardew, then props to him. If not, his position will come under serious review come end of the season. At least he'll have learnt not to give stupid quotes like the digs against Southampton and Spurs.
He set himself up for a fall unfortunately for him, I don't think he'll get much sympathy from anyone if the seasons carries on the way it does. There's a fine line between arrogance and confidence and considering he actually had no great success he seemed to overstep the mark. You can forgive the likes of Mourinho, Wenger, van Gaal etc as they are successful managers (or have had success in the past) when you've actually won nothing and start talking like you're a brilliant manager people will pick up on it and can't wait to kick you when you're down. I think if they carry on going the way they are the next few months are going to be quite uncomfortable for him.
I can see him getting fired. His stock even with last season seems to lack value(finished 8th before that). Sell sell sell!
I think I'll put a sneaky bet on him to be the next manager to go. If they continue to have bad games, he'll go quickly. Imagine we beat them and they make a decision after that game?
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