And Suarez will stay.
Brentan Rodgers
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I think his players took all the stick for the end of season collapse (especially Gerrard). That's the impression I got anyway. If anything, Rogers' role in what went on was under-played. On here and in the media in general.
Your point does stand about Mourinho but new managers always have a get out of jail free card in their first season. Unless they Moyes it up spectacularly.
£20 million for Lovren is one that stands out to me. I was surprised to see that he'd only played one season in English football before they signed him for that. Speaking of defenders, I read an article that covered the transfer of Sakho and it wasn't at all flattering. If what was said is true, £15 million was very steep. £35 million for those two is robbery, stupidity or both. I don't know if it's a lack of ambition or allure or the club that means they don't just go out and get a proven talent* for that kind of money.
*I.e. not an Andy Carroll.
Really? I remember the caf fawning over Rodgers most of last season and wishing we had such a progressive manager instead of Moyes. The fact our team didn't look like it had a plan or obvious progression like his 7th finish team did was something used against Moyes frequently.
I'm surprised he has come out with these "We're in transition" type quotes today because I'm not sure he's in a position to do that. I mean they did just have their best season last year for a long time, they obviously would have raised expectations rightly or wrongly. Now he's basically admitted they aren't as good as last year at this early stage. Can't imagine that'll go down too well. I certainly wouldn't be happy with that, especially after all the talk in the summer to the contrary.
The problem with Liverpool is they didn't really have the finances to go and pay top wages for numerous top player's. You think about the player's who moved in the Summer who are the biggest guarantees of success: the likes of Sanchez, Di Maria, Falcao, Fabregas and Costa. These are the kind of player's who command £150k+ per week in wages, as well as a fee which would at least be half of their Suarez kitty gone.
The fact that Liverpool aren't exactly affluent at the moment (even with their £97.5m Premier League payout last season) means that they had two strategies: buy 8 odd player's whose combined wages and transfer fee would be a maybe 50% more than Suarez', or buy maybe 1 or 2 big name signings and 2-3 low wage, low fee hopeful punts for the same price.
I advocated the latter option in the Summer, but most Liverpool fans thought that would be absurd. They went for the blunder-bus approach of medium wage, high transfer fee player's such as Lallana, Balotelli, Markovic & Lovren who probably command wages of £15m a year and an outlay of over £80m. These four particularly could have been condensed into 2 signings at £40m and £150k a week, which translates to a couple of truly top class player.
A Summer of Moreno, Manquillo, Can, Lambert (£25m), whilst keeping Agger and throwing big money at two player's like Sanchez and Khedira, would represent a great bit of business. I'd say the latter two could have been gotten with the £300k a week budget and £80m cash spent on the highlighted 4, which would have left them with a much stronger first team and a much stronger squad in my opinion.
Instead of Moyes is the key part of that thought
I'm sure most people wouldn't mind having Rodgers or a manager like him if dithering dave was the alternative
Love his tan, it just screams "tanning bed".
How can he say liverpool are in "transition" he has only lost one player, he is the silly cnut whos signed a whole new first team of shite for no reason.
He will at some point. It doesn't have to make sense for Rogers as long as he throw's enough buzzwords around to make it looks likes he knows what he's doing then it's job done.
''Does a struggling salesman start turning up on a bicycle? No, he turns up in a newer car - perception, yeah?''
He's basically just thrown half his strike force under the bus. Fantastic, morale raising, quotes for Balotelli and Lambert to hear 
So much for all this 'he's a gem' crap, the man is an idiot, and watching him fail is beautiful.
So much for all this 'he's a gem' crap, the man is an idiot, and watching him fail is beautiful.
To be fair many were on his case about setting up naively - even before the Chelsea match and Crystanbul. But, yeah, all things told he did go from zero to hero on the Caf last season. Before that it was pretty much pure ridicule on here - hardly anyone took him seriously.
Interesting remarks from him on the Balotelli situation. He's not saying anything most people ain't thinking, of course - but saying it in an interview? It reads like: "Yeah, we took a punt because we had to do something, anything - but we fecked up there. Now all we can do is wait for the lad on loan to come back."
Hardly inspiring words, one might say - and feck knows how Balotelli will take it.
He is a decent manager with potential but nowhere close the messiah he and Liverpool fans think he is (or "thought" as they might have woken up by now).
Everything went for them last season, but as everyone knows defending a title is tougher than winning it, the same way keeping a team in the top 4 year after year is tougher than reaching top 4 for the first time. We'll see what he does now that ppl actually expect them to deliver.
He should also leave a bit of his smugness behind and try to hire ppl who have a better tactical knowledge of the game than him, especially regarding defending.
Everything went for them last season, but as everyone knows defending a title is tougher than winning it, the same way keeping a team in the top 4 year after year is tougher than reaching top 4 for the first time. We'll see what he does now that ppl actually expect them to deliver.
He should also leave a bit of his smugness behind and try to hire ppl who have a better tactical knowledge of the game than him, especially regarding defending.
Exactly, Rodgers was rightly praised for last year but I think most people on here pointed out that he still had to prove himself over a sustained period. Still, it is at least possible to expect a bright future for a 41 year old who is relatively new on the scene whereas when you have a 50 year old who has been playing dull as dishwater football for a decade while hovering just above mid-table, you know this is as good as it gets.
Yep! Throwing everyone and everything under the bus to detract from the rubbish he's serving up. Latest thing from him is that Liverpool are 'in transition'...
Edit - didn't see the post above about that...
they have transitioned to be fair... from a one man team, to shite
Think we all know how! Should be entertaining watching it all unfold, for neutrals at least.
His record in the transfer market is arguably worse than that of Benitez. It really is terrible. And unsurprisingly, he is still chatting bollocks in the media. He's a self-adoring dickhead.
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He seems like someone who'd be on the first row to receive plaudits when things are going well but would shift the blame to all and sundry when things are falling apart to preserve his own image and reputation.
Exactly. I know in sports at this level there's a certain arrogance that comes with it, but this guy takes it to another level. Worse thing is he's treated like the best thing ever by the British press. I just don't get it? Don't people see through his bs ????
I also like how Brentan has managed to bully Woy into not picking Sturridge for the international break next week, claiming 'he's not fit', yet he's available for selection for their game against West Brom tomorrow. Reeks of desperation and reflects the over-reliance they've managed to dump on the shoulders of Sterling and Sturridge.
Very good post. Also, I believe last summer was the most likely time for them to go after these high wage, high fee signings because of the season they had. Not only did they blow up that money but they also blew up the chance they had to consolidate themselves there and now with the onset of FFP I doubt if they can ever go back to being one of the regular Top 4s.
Rodger's has been a huge improvement over the managers they have had for the past few seasons but he started believing in his own hype. He lacks people working with him who can question his decisions (something that happened with Moyes and us) specially due to his relative inexperience at managing at this level. Instead of trying to bridge the gap in his first eleven, he went after adding numbers to his squad with these mid fee and mid wage players.
He can probably take some blame for overplaying Sterling, but Rodgers has done nothing wrong with Sturridge. He's constantly fecked over by England.
He's probably not available tomorrow by the way, not sure where you heard that.
He's starting to crack, not like Benitez did but he's heading that way
I'm back. He really is a fecking bellend, isn't he? His face needs fisting.
Bit of a Charlatan isn't he? Really talks the talk but as far as walking the walk, he's in a wheelchair.
Completely agree with you. Rodgers annoys me but the way Hodgson has dealt with Sturridge, and especially that quote of letting him play when injured to 'test his resolve' (sic), has been ridiculous. I'd be fuming if it had been the same with a Utd player and can totally understand Rodgers's attitude on this one. Well, I think he might have been able to handle it publicly in a more convenient way (this did scream 'dick waving' a bit) but still, don't think there's much wrong with that.
His weight loss has been impressive though, it must be said.
Some funny comments.
For me this man is full of buzz words and lacks actual talent. He was on about flipping his formations mid way through games last week, he said it so much I thought it was pancake day!
For me this man is full of buzz words and lacks actual talent. He was on about flipping his formations mid way through games last week, he said it so much I thought it was pancake day!
Ah the fat bloke from Hull is jealous.
Reports have emerged suggesting that RSPCA are investigating claims that Liverpool FC are forcing a donkey to work as their manager.
It's not a word you see much these days, but he really is the perfect definition of a prat.
I think it was given to him by a disabled supporter or so.Oh c'mon, would any self-adoring dickhead hang something like this in his crib? Jesus.
15m for France starting CB is good buy.
what is baffling is that he bought Lovren while he had Agger on the team.
So, Sakho's starting regularly and performing like you'd expect of a France CB?
Genuinely curious, because I haven't heard many good things about him thus far, and I hope he wouldn't get by just by having that title.
Lets face it, the only good buy was Sturridge. People keep mentioning Coutinho but he's been shit for a while now. Started very well yeah, but he hasn't been that good since. Moreno and Lallana could prove to be good (even if they did over pay for the latter). I'm not entirely convinced by Moreno though tbh.
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