Brentan Rodgers

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gasmanc said:
Pellegrinis City side did exactly the same earlier in the season, without the unpredictability of Suarez and the telepathy from Sterling and Sturridge it's all a bit flat.
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True and Spurs gave a perfect example of how not to play them. If you go all out attack Liverpool will hurt you on the break. Sit deep and slow the game down, frustrate them, hit long and direct balls, give them problems with set-pieces and they'll struggle vs. the well organized teams.

Edit: MNF also showed the stats on how many points sides won from losing positions and Liverpool were way off the pace of Chelsea, Utd, City and Arsenal.
 
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Liverpool play exciting football, heard that more than a few times over the past 12 months. But the reality is, only if you let them. Teams have cottoned onto them now and it won't be as "exciting" this year, as long as you can shut down their 1 or 2 genuinely decent playmakers the whole team is stifled.
 
Thisistheone said:
True and Spurs gave a perfect example of how not to play them. If you go all out attack Liverpool will hurt you on the break. Sit deep and slow the game down, frustrate them, hit long and direct balls, give them problems with set-pieces and they'll struggle vs. the well organized teams.
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The back four has been/is dreadful and it doesn't look to have improved any at all, and teams know that even with the combination of Sterling and Sturridge a well organised defence is capable of nullifying them as City proved.
 
Apologies if this has been asked a million times before but why is he called Brentan on these forums? Or does it have no background or story to it.
 
gasmanc said:
The back four has been/is dreadful and it doesn't look to have improved any at all, and teams know that even with the combination of Sterling and Sturridge a well organised defence is capable of nullifying them as City proved.
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Aye. There's so many things pointing to Liverpool not doing as good as last year and possibly dropping out the top 4, yet most scousers on here are unwilling to accept it. Makes for a very amusing season ahead.
 
2mufc0 said:
Apologies if this has been asked a million times before but why is he called Brentan on these forums? Or does it have no background or story to it.
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Because he talks like David Brent from the UK Office. It was Brenton for ages, but I think it got updated to Brentan after his latest spray tan.
 
PickledRed said:
Oh yeah, all those managers who blame themselves and the squad for being poor. Which ones are those again?
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I've seen plenty of managers in other sports blame themselves, but you're right it's rare for a manager to blame the squad in public. I'd say we've given a clear sign though, by our transfer activity.

What I find distasteful is Bren adopting the conspiratorial victim mentality of the Liverpool supporters.

Has he ever said we were beat by a team that was better on the day?

If so it seems a rare occasion.

I appreciate that conspiratorial angle plays well to Liverpool supporters, but from the outside it's a bit sad.
 
Thisistheone said:
Edit: MNF also showed the stats on how many points sides won from losing positions and Liverpool were way off the pace of Chelsea, Utd, City and Arsenal.
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That's more to do with the fact that we don't usually go behind, surely? We almost always scored first last season.
 
Tarrou said:
Because he talks like David Brent from the UK Office. It was Brenton for ages, but I think it got updated to Brentan after his latest spray tan.
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Cheers.
 
Thisistheone said:
Aye. There's so many things pointing to Liverpool not doing as good as last year and possibly dropping out the top 4, yet most scousers on here are unwilling to accept it. Makes for a very amusing season ahead.
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Yea, it's like some cruel joke at times, just a couple years ago they've finally accepted that they aren't the best team in England only to see their predictions and dreams come true when Ferguson retired, United went to complete shit and Liverpool back title challenging, top a tha league la, reviving all the years of delusion.
One sumner later and they've lost the fulcrum of their title challenge signed a pile of unknowns all whilst their bitter rivals have removed the cause of it's decline and brought in a manager and squad members capable of standing toe to toe with anyone.
Meanwhile their savour is pointing fingers at the club transfer budget, whilst spending the 2nd highest amount in the league and virtually admitting that the club is a third off the very best clubs and all this after a defeat by a club on probably a tenth of his budget.
It's bordering on mental cruelty really.
 
gooDevil said:
I've seen plenty of managers in other sports blame themselves, but you're right it's rare for a manager to blame the squad in public. I'd say we've given a clear sign though, by our transfer activity.

What I find distasteful is Bren adopting the conspiratorial victim mentality of the Liverpool supporters.

Has he ever said we were beat by a team that was better on the day?

If so it seems a rare occasion.

I appreciate that conspiratorial angle plays well to Liverpool supporters, but from the outside it's a bit sad.
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I think he follows the Mark Hughes school of football management. If I don't win it is because of everything, but my decisions. Wenger tried that for a number of years, but at least he has grown out of it. I will become more receptive of Brenda's qualities when he has a plan B and can say I got it wrong and actually becomes a success. He was clueless when things were going wrong against CP and Chelsea at the end of last year also was found out tactically against City this year.
 
Jesus. How often was Ferguson giving kudos to losing to the better team? He'd be refusing to meet the press when something like that was on the cards.

Fwiw, when we drew to villa last season he flat out admitted that it was his fault and that he underestimated villa.
 
B20 said:
Jesus. How often was Ferguson giving kudos to losing to the better team? He'd be refusing to meet the press when something like that was on the cards.

Fwiw, when we drew to villa last season he flat out admitted that it was his fault and that he underestimated villa.
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Yeh, all managers are twats when they lose, you can not look at one PL manager who hasn't griped about everything but his decisions. I always find it amusing when they say 'we had total control of the game' and they got a break, having been totally sh*te for 90 mins or they made a sub and the game changed against them. Even City's manager at the weekend, rather than talk about fighting spirit of his team, he whines on about injustices that were never really there. I am just waiting for LVG to react when the game goes against him. Not seen enough of him as United's manager, but if he reacts badly the press is going to have a field day.
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
Yeh, all managers are twats when they lose, you can not look at one PL manager who hasn't griped about everything but his decisions. I always find it amusing when they say 'we had total control of the game' and they got a break, having been totally sh*te for 90 mins or they made a sub and the game changed against them. Even City's manager at the weekend, rather than talk about fighting spirit of his team, he whines on about injustices that were never really there. I am just waiting for LVG to react when the game goes against him. Not seen enough of him as United's manager, but if he reacts badly the press is going to have a field day.
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The first 3 games weren't bad enough for ya?
 
gooDevil said:
The first 3 games weren't bad enough for ya?
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So LVG blamed referees, conjured up conspiracies ...etc in the first 3 games. I don't think so. We lost once in the league against Swansea and I don't think he blamed anyone. Love to see evidence he did. The best that could be put against him is he says "believe in the philosophy" and "it will take time to adjust to his way of playing". Hardly damning.
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
So LVG blamed referees, conjured up conspiracies ...etc in the first 3 games. I don't think so. We lost once in the league against Swansea and I don't think he blamed anyone. Love to see evidence he did. The best that could be put against him is he says "believe in the philosophy" and "it will take time to adjust to his way of playing". Hardly damning.
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That's what I mean, surely he already had a chance to make excuses and blow up and he hasn't.
 
Martinez gets a lot of criticism on here for not being able to 'build' a defence yet Rodgers has a 40 million centre back partnership who both look like an accident waiting to happen when the ball goes near them. He deserves the criticism easily as much as Martinez.
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
Ahh, I see. In that case cross purposes. That said, no dodgy decisions against us to date, just not very good performances. When they come that is when the test will really come.
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I'm no conspiracy nutter but we definitely got the short end of the stick on a couple of penalty shouts vs Sunderland and Burnley. Van Gaal seems very calm and, to use his favourite word, philosophical about that sort of thing though so far.
 
BigDunc9 said:
Martinez gets a lot of criticism on here for not being able to 'build' a defence yet Rodgers has a 40 million centre back partnership who both look like an accident waiting to happen when the ball goes near them. He deserves the criticism easily as much as Martinez.
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And he gets it.
 
BigDunc9 said:
Martinez gets a lot of criticism on here for not being able to 'build' a defence yet Rodgers has a 40 million centre back partnership who both look like an accident waiting to happen when the ball goes near them. He deserves the criticism easily as much as Martinez.
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To be fair Everton have conceded significantly more goals than Liverpool so far including 6 at home.
 
Even his celebrations are smarmy as feck, the way he raises his hands in the air in high 5's and then changes them to clenched fists.
 
montpelier said:
Mario's ''world class finish'' is over-egging it a bit Bren, you jammy f*cker
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Comes across far too confident for my liking. It's not like he's won the league a few times and beat some of the world's best. I appreciate confidence and he has a right to be that. But one season without CL football and coming close to winning the league does not justify his seemingly unflappable belief in his own hype. There's no doubting hes a very good manager. But, he's far from being great.

Jose can be smug, LVG can be overwhelmingly confident and Sir Alex had the right to be a right arrogant bastard if he wanted to be. He had done wonders with Aberdeen in Europe before he came to United and audaciously promised to knock Liverpool off their perch.

Let's see how he handles the rigours of this season. If he can maintain a good league run, make the last 16 in CL and give some really top opposition a run for their money, I'll acknowledge Rodgers's smugness.
 
B20 said:
Jesus. How often was Ferguson giving kudos to losing to the better team? He'd be refusing to meet the press when something like that was on the cards.

Fwiw, when we drew to villa last season he flat out admitted that it was his fault and that he underestimated villa.
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He actually did, quite a lot in fact. While acknowledging we were shite.
 
BigDunc9 said:
I was joking mate because when Evertons defence does well its because Moyes built it but whenever it does shit its because of Martinez.
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I'm not sure that's fair really, Stones and Coleman kicked on massively since Martinez took over.
 
AltiUn said:
I'm not sure that's fair really, Stones and Coleman kicked on massively since Martinez took over.
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The thing that eases my fears is that Stones rejected Martinez Wigan to join Everton and i am big fan of Stones. A bit of proof that maybe he can find a defender. Also yes Coleman has took his game to another level since Roberto took over.
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
Ahh, I see. In that case cross purposes. That said, no dodgy decisions against us to date, just not very good performances. When they come that is when the test will really come.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with a manager mentioning a real blunder, even to mention it made things harder, but you can't blame results on one bad call, even a penalty. You have to be prepared for that to happen a few times a season.

I'm not worried about van Gaal's attitude at all, personally.
 
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