Continues to look a scary, Ferguson-esque manager in terms of getting a bunch of good but not great players to just outrun and outpass the opposition.
Brentan Rodgers
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Or maybe the players are actually very good--technical players??
He's obviously a good manager and probably a stand-up guy, but why do I loathe him so much? I don't mind Wenger and I actually quite like Mourinho, but Rodgers has an aura of utter arrogance that I have not seen from many others. He seems to think that he's a hybrid of Socrates and God, which is just a little annoying. Furthermore, he talks more piss to the media than any other manager - embarrassing that. He's doing great things with Liverpool though, no doubt.
I wondered that and then just thought nah, it's just a coincidence and he has no idea.
He seemed to say it and then smile forever like he didn't know what he'd said too.. it was all a bit weird.
Seriously.. watch it. it's creepy as feck. I'm sure someone text him saying 'say this' and he didn't even know what he was saying. The laugh feels incredibly forced and makes it even more awkward.
It's the smug look on his face, no doubt.
Smug as hell, and those false teeth are a little too Hollywood-ish. But even worse than his smug face is his arrogant behavior. Footballers and managers who think they are the second coming makes me vomit a little.
You just said you liked Mourinho... It's a complete contradiction.
Well, that was his original point in fairness,
'Why do I loathe him so much when I don't mind Wenger and I actually like Mourinho'
Yeah, it's disturbing and was a weird way to finish that joke.
Why? Mourinho is taking the piss a lot of the time and has a grin on his face to tell you that he's only being half serious half the time. He can also admit to players not doing the right thing or his team not playing well.
Rodgers is too arrogant in his approach. Nobody else ever does anything wrong, and even when one of his players bite or take a dive, it's always someone else's fault. It's embarrassing.
Morinho is arrogant in a more fun and relaxed manner, like he's taking the piss half the time. Rodger's isn't.
Mourinho's got personality, personality goes a long way.
I'd take Rodgers over Mourinho. Can't stand Mourinho.
Or neither, let's wait for the season to unravel, I think the last last laughs will not be echoing from the KOP come may.
I'll never understand the hate for Rodgers. I find him to be very articulate and engaging. He talks as much shite as the next manager but that's par for the course.
I think people (deliberately) confuse confident, measured responses with complete arrogance.
He's a very good manager and a good spin doctor, handles the media fairly well and has worked wonders with Liverpool.
I think people (deliberately) confuse confident, measured responses with complete arrogance.
He's a very good manager and a good spin doctor, handles the media fairly well and has worked wonders with Liverpool.
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Listening to talk sport during the week they were saying how he was the best young manager in the world and now watching Sunday supplement Barclay was saying how he was the best Liverpool manager since Shankly/Paisley! (He has to go some to match Rafa in my opinion not to mention KD in his first stint) This is a lot of love getting thrown about on a manager who has had one good season and still won feck all. I don't know what to think is it just me who can't see it? I'm not saying he's bad and he's done well but not exactly earth shattering!
He's hedged his bets that City won't chuck the league now and our bubble has burst. The bust cycle has arrived. Etc.
Failing that there's always the sofa again.
20 odd years on and you still haven't won a premiership it's a bit ironic don't you think?
He's the great hope for British managers at the moment. If he fails, all the top clubs in England will be managed by somebody not from the British isles. They've really got to pump his tyres up.
Yep but he's nothing better (so far) than a ford focus
All he's got to his cv is one championship playoff final win. Very early to mention his same universe let alone sentence as Shankly and Paisley.
He is clearly a good manager but how good is the question.
Louis van Gaal, Wenger and Mourinho are excellent managers. Is he in this class? I think he needs to be because all those managers have greater financial resources at their disposal.
Louis van Gaal, Wenger and Mourinho are excellent managers. Is he in this class? I think he needs to be because all those managers have greater financial resources at their disposal.
Agree, don't get me wrong he's doing well at Liverpool but the nonsense that's been talked about him is cringeworthy. The league was there for him last season and he blew it, the Chelsea game showed up his inexperience lets see how they fair this year.
Liverpool fans go on about how it's Mourinho and he beats everybody but that team put out was poor, the match was sandwiched between two champions league semi-final games against Athletico Madrid.
It was a simple task for Rodgers but he set his team out to attack, I'm not sure why?
Rodgers worked with Mourinho aswell.
It's like he was Mourinho's pet mouse and Mourinho used to put traps out to catch other rival mice, they would go for the cheese and die.
And then he went his own way, Mourinho put the cheese out for him and he went for it.
In my eyes, he's got to show a more pragmatic side to his work. Not saying he should park the bus, but look at the 3-3 draw at palace last season; at 3-0, a bit of keep ball until the end of that game would have seen them win that game. Trying to win 6-0 or something like that on that night was crazy. Jose, Sir Alex back in the day, would have felt 3-0 sufficed.
Rodgers talks a lot of crap but you can't argue with what he's done so far.
Had he won the title it would have been the most unlikely win of the PL era and to be fair, Gerrard's slip pretty much did for them in the end.
Yep but he didn't its like saying had Fergie lost to Crystal Palace but he didn't. He has won nothing of note and until he does or at least gets Liverpool to be title contenders year in year out then I'm not believing the hype.
I get what you mean. The key distinction is that Rodgers has won nothing.
He has to be winning to even be compared to Mourinho. He's done a great job with Liverpool thus far but he still has a lot to prove.
Maybe, but Mourinho has much more charisma and a little bit of self irony whereas Rodgers seem to take himself far too seriously.
He's had one season inside the top 4 when City United and Chelsea all changed their managers. Lets see what he does in the next 3-4 seasons before we judge him fully (if he isn't sacked before then)
Mourinho at least has almost unparalleled success to base his smugness on. That's why I truly disliked the smug Scot we had last season whose smugness was based on utter mediocrity.
Rodgers for all his smugness still has everything to prove and should actually win something before being considered top class. Obviously he is miles better than Moyes but also miles off the likes of Mourinho or Wenger.
Keeping Liverpool in the top 4 for some seasons to come and winning the odd cup wouldn't be a bad start.
Rodgers for all his smugness still has everything to prove and should actually win something before being considered top class. Obviously he is miles better than Moyes but also miles off the likes of Mourinho or Wenger.
Keeping Liverpool in the top 4 for some seasons to come and winning the odd cup wouldn't be a bad start.
Mourinho is in another league compared to Van Gaal and Wenger.
I didn't say he wasn't.
I merely stated Wenger, LvG and Mourinho are excellent managers. And if Rodgers wants to be competitive he must also be an excellent manager.
You're missing the point I was making. Taking that side from outside the top 4 to being that close to the title is a massive achievement, especially given where Liverpool had been over the last 5 years.
One moment arguably cost them the title but that's just football a d luck always plays a part. Doesn't take away from what they achieved last year though.
As it is he's good tactically, looks like he has an eye for a player and seems to be able to get his players playing for him.
Time will tell whether he can go the extra mile and win trophies but he's young and he seems to have the potential.
As if stands he's won nothing but he's only been at a decent club for a couple of years. All top managers start somewhere.
According to the Times, Brenton's net spend is close to £120m in 2 years..
More than Pellegrini at City
More than Ancellotti at Chelsea
More than Wenger in 18 years!
No pressure..
More than Pellegrini at City
More than Ancellotti at Chelsea
More than Wenger in 18 years!
No pressure..
I suppose he's had to fill the squad out this season. I can understand that figure. The problem will come if they don't get in the top 4.
Let's see how he does this season eh? He inherited a squad in his first season at Liverpool and finished 8th. last season he had no European football, out of both cup pretty early, so put all his effort into the EPL. Also had one the most inform players in the world at his disposal.
Everything has changed now, Suarez has gone, he has European football to contend with and another expected title push.
This season right here is his biggest season. Imo he's out of his depth, he's got till may to prove me wrong. A lot of you will disagree, but he had a lot of luck last season.
Everything has changed now, Suarez has gone, he has European football to contend with and another expected title push.
This season right here is his biggest season. Imo he's out of his depth, he's got till may to prove me wrong. A lot of you will disagree, but he had a lot of luck last season.
Of course not. He's not even close. He's not even in the same stratosphere.
The three managers you mentioned are amongst the greatest managers ever.
I wish he bloody was.
Liverpools spending flies under the radar alot IMO
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