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Definitely not football manager or Youtube clips. Definitely.
Certainly not based on this Euros but that's all of seen him play so I have to believe he has shown a lot more to be rated highly . Hard to believe mind you.
I thought coman was the worst of the lot and I really rate him.
I hope we steer clear. He may be worth a punt at around €10m, with an immediate loan but not at the crazy money quoted in the press. His lack of technical ability is a big problem.
Hopefully we're now unpreparing our bid and unpoising ourselves.
I did as well, wasn't until they came back after halftime and said it was him.
Hope he's been performing well elsewhere but otherwise I get a strong Obertan vibe from him.
I just am not going to make the mistake of judging anyone based on this appalling tournament. I'm sure our scouts won't either.
Martial / Rashford level at that age is not too much to hope forYou lot are nuts, the pitch is awful and he's against a very physical French team. Sure he's not perfect but he's clearly very talented.
Swear some of you expect them to be ronaldo level at 18/19
Not sure many people follow the Swiss league TBF. Better to judge him in actual live football matches than anything else. Surely?
I'm a fan of his, but he didn't play well this game. Still posted some good stats though
Let him stay there for next season, so we can all have a look at him again.
I really think we need an established quality winger so I'd be a bit disappointed if we sign him in lieu of that.
We actually have a lot of very promising youngsters in attacking positions, all of whom look as talented as Embolo. Perhaps he goes on to explode and become top class, maybe scouts have seen more than us, but at the moment I wouldn't be at all fussed.
We actually have a lot of very promising youngsters in attacking positions, all of whom look as talented as Embolo. Perhaps he goes on to explode and become top class, maybe scouts have seen more than us, but at the moment I wouldn't be at all fussed.
I'm sure our scouts know all they need to know already tbf.
Yes but we can't draw a lot of conclusions from this imo.
Yes, but we're not sure yet.
Of course. But more than we can from anything else.
Across the 3 games he's showed he's got great vision and good physical attributes. Hasn't really had any clear Scoring chances, but he's worked very hard and never hidden. Yes he could have done better but I can see why he's highly rated. Shakiri did sod all but he's an established player, you've got to look passed this game really.
Anyway just my opinion, we shall see how he improves.
he was nonexistent in the second half but decent in the first one
Not the highest priority but in few years his price may be closer to Lukaku's if he'll start scoring goals and providing assists which he's already doing it at some point. Big tournament and Switzerland basing almost their entire offensive game on this teenager. Really don't know what they're expecting... of course the boy will crack as he's clearly gaining his first, real experience.
Someone who gave Rashford his big chance said not so long ago that inconsistency is a normal thing in this stage of career. Go figure who's being right or wrong now.
Someone who gave Rashford his big chance said not so long ago that inconsistency is a normal thing in this stage of career. Go figure who's being right or wrong now.
That's so not true, Zlatan looked great controlling, holding the ball and with his passing, the criticism he is getting is because. people expect him to be like Payet is for France, and create and score goals, while Embolo doesn't resemble a footballer, it seems like he's a rugby player sent to play football.
I just don't see it. Granted I've seen nowhere near enough of him to form an opinion.
He looks like Lukaku did when he just joined Chelsea which is another way of saying he's looked absolutely terrible.
I agree with this.
I posted my thoughts about 15 pages back and was ridiculed. I'll reiterate:
Nothing suggests that he's going to be a great player. He has poor control, poor dribbling and is weak overall technically - no matter what the age.
You can not improve basic attributes by much at this age.
I really hope we're not in for this guy. Even Depay and Lingard are much, much better.
Purely based on what I've seen today I don't really see the point in getting him. If we're getting Ibra it's safe to presume he's first choice, and getting this lad would just push hamper Rashford.
He doesn't look at all like a winger, but as I said I've only seen this match from him.
He doesn't look at all like a winger, but as I said I've only seen this match from him.
That shows how stats are misleading, he crossed twice both poor crosses nowhere near their players, the shot was in the first half blocked by Koshielny(spell?) and out for a corner.
Was pretty decent. Closed down the Full-backs and centre backs a lot which was partially why the Swiss had the majority of the possession and controlled a major part of the game. Once he was subbed and coinciding with Payet's introduction, they lost their foothold on the game. Offensively, he did very little and that is his primary job. But then again, the entire game was torture to watch, with the exception of Xhaka and Pogba in bits, there was not a stand out performance (Payet excluded). You can understand why Mourinho would like him on the wing though. His workrate and pace on the flank would be something Mourinho would appreciate. Price is something I couldn't give a toss about (Unless someone is going to ask me in a pointless quiz), so if Mourinho is interested in him, I hope we get him.
Looks very raw obviously
But certainly willing to give him benefit of the doubt just because he hasn't looked a world beater at this tournament
He is big, strong and fast that's what I know for sure
But certainly willing to give him benefit of the doubt just because he hasn't looked a world beater at this tournament
He is big, strong and fast that's what I know for sure
This is the first game that he started and he is yet to play full 90 minutes at the tournament, they are not depending on him
He looks raw. In the way that Bebe was 'raw', sadly 
They clearly are more than England on Rashford.
Not going to panic. I doubt he became a Swiss regular as a teenager and one of the most highly rated young players in Europe by accident. Have not really been able to watch him but, his stats in the Europa League last season shows that he is an impressive dribbler which we could really use on the right wing.
I don't find then misleading. Those stats say he did next to feck all and after watching the game I can tell you that was the case. Him bullying Pogba a couple of times was impressive. Especially as Pogba managed to hold off four Swiss players at one point. The game was tight though. France's superstars did very little either.
I hope people stop comparing his performances with Zlatan, Martial or Griezmann or any other player, the basic difference is all other players their basic technique is perfectly fine, which is controlling, holding the ball, passing etc, its only the other aspects where we expect them to score goals or create goals is where they have been below par, while this kid he is barely able to control the football, his every second touch is a tackle, the ball is constantly bouncing off him, he is running into players and losing footing every two seconds. On the basis of these performances his club should take the 20 Million Euros Leipzig(spell) are offering and run, but fair play to them for using our name to get as much cash for this kid.
I am not saying he might not turn out to be a decent player in the long run, but we as a club have an academy and i am sure we have better 19 year old's in there.
I am not saying he might not turn out to be a decent player in the long run, but we as a club have an academy and i am sure we have better 19 year old's in there.
Might be worth a punt for £10m (we could also loan him back out) but for the reported fee I don't see the value in signing him this transfer window. Our budget isn't infinite and we can't flutter away half of it on "raw" players. We need to buy some established players (especially a right winger) to slot straight in to the first team.
Yeah I said almost the same the thing before the Euro started. I'd also add, his finishing is one of his biggest weaknesses and hence why he gets played out wide.
Embolo's game is purely based on raw power and pace with odd flashes of tricks here and there.
He's had more than 2 seasons in the Swiss League playing in the CL as well but he looks more raw than Rashfrod does. As opposed to others who'd put Rashford on the bench and play Embolo, I'd stick to my opinion that there is no way he displaces Rashford and he's done nothing at the Euro to suggest otherwise. In fact, Rashfrod had a better cameo against Welsh the other day.
Not seeing much with this kid, if I'm being honest. Hard to judge a young player solely on a few tournament games with an average international team, though.
After someone just posted 'good stats'of his from tonight's games,and having seen his performance,I wouldn't be that quick to jump on those stats as gospel.
Numbers without context are useless.
It's the same thing peoe have used for Depay. He had good at PSV so he must clearly be very talented. Yet the perfomances right in front of our eyes aren't very convincing.
Saying you can't improve your dribbling after 19 really isn't true, it's just most have already learnt how to do it effectively. He's clearly been very quick and strong from a young age, he's probably not had to learn how to dribble with agility yet.
To me it looks like he's trying to keep it simple and not do anything too flash, but his footwork is clearly better than he's shown.
I don't think his control is as bad as everybody seems to be pointing out, but then again martial looked like Bebe on the booze when he played, so I think it's a hard 1 too judge on these crap cut up pitches.
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