Television Breaking Bad
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fecking love Badger 
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I'm late to the party, started watching it last week, but I'm almost done with season three now! Really enjoying it, one of my top three shows now.
Likewise! I've never seen it before but after hearing so much good stuff about it, I asked for season 1 for Christmas. After enjoying season 1 so much ...went and ordered all of the seasons on blu-Ray. Now 4 episodes in to Season 5 (first part) and it genuinely is one of the greatest shows ever made. Everything about it it pure class.
Gunna be sad when it's over
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I keep meaning to watch episode 3. Maybe the fact I haven't and that I watched eps 1 and 2 3 weeks apart a month ago says they haven't really grabbed me. I bet it does get better and is amazing if I put the effort in.
Finally finished watching it and feeling a little underwhelmed considering all the "whoa!" in the media back then it aired.
It is, I had to bite through it aswell at first but once it gets going you'll be hooked, you'll see.
I'll get round to it at some point I reckon.
I've been rewatching S3, just watching 'fly' now, Jesse is so funny at times.
Also watched the 2 hour documentary last night; brilliant.
Also watched the 2 hour documentary last night; brilliant.
You have a like for this, Nick?
I downloaded it from that pirate harbouring bay.
Called 'No Half Measures'
Called 'No Half Measures'
Congrats to the Breaking Bad Team and Bryan Cranston for winning Best TV Series - Drama and Best Actor - TV Series Drama at the Golden Globes!
Good stuff. I think I preferred House of Cards to this season of Breaking Bad to be honest (it's close) but Cranston thoroughly deserves that.
*Looking at the list, it seems Big Bang Theory was nominated over Arrested Development for best comedy. That's impressively retarded.
*Looking at the list, it seems Big Bang Theory was nominated over Arrested Development for best comedy. That's impressively retarded.
Just watch it. It's a really slow start and you wonder what tge hell all the fuss was about, it was after episode 6 that I truly became gripped.
I started to watch it due to the thread on here, a few episodes in and you realise why the hype. I pretty much marathoned the whole series after that, very good watch.
You Sir are in for a treat. I rarely get sucked into hype, especially TV related, but I cannot but say that Breaking Bad is quite simply the best series I have ever watched.
Nothing more needs to be said
I loved how it started actually. At times you wondered where the hell this was headed and what the show was actually all about but it was part of the fun.
pretty much. I'm on season 2, episode 4 and it's picked up a lot, the ending to season 1, start of 2 was brilliant.
Me and the Mrs are half way through season 4 of this - really superb program, well written, will decide where it ranks in my all time list once I see the conclusion but it is majestic.
Oh and I think "One Minute" is one of the best episodes of any program I've ever seen, especially the last 3 minutes of the episode - what a scene.
Oh and I think "One Minute" is one of the best episodes of any program I've ever seen, especially the last 3 minutes of the episode - what a scene.
Finished this over the weekend - the biggest compliment I can possibly pay it is that I rate it above The Sopranos. My favorite TV series of all time, just inexplicably magnificent all the way through.
I'm 5 episodes into the final season now. Jesus, what a programme.
I can't believe the ending,
I thought it was an awful, pandering final episode. So disappointing, as the buildup was magnificent.I can't believe the ending,
All opinions of course, but I don't think it's as good as Boardwalk Empire, let alone in the same league as The Sopranos or The Wire.
The episode 'Ozymandias' still has a perfect 10/10 on IMDB with over 45,000 ratings. That's insane.
Dunno. Personally I was hooked after the pilot itself. It's funny reading this thread from the start. Very few people commenting over the first 2 seasons, then some came in around the end of season 3. Some more during season 4. Hype towards the end, almost tripling the interested parties.
Therein lay the problem. I'm also glad they didn't do the Dexter, but they doesn't mean they had to play it so safe. Huge disappointment.
Of course, each to their own, The Sopranos is truly superb but I don't think it has the same quality as breaking bad episode-for-episode. Breaking Bad is literally non stop action, where as I think Soprano's tells a lengthier story - both are superb but I just preferred the way Breaking Bad flowed from one episode to the next, picking up where the last episode left off.
Me and the Mrs are planning Boardwalk Empire as the next thing we watch, although we are also holding out for the new episodes of Mad Men - can only watch so many at one time.
My wife was disappointed with the ending, I wasn't so much - it made complete sense, it was the ending the show needed. I can't find the spoiler button so not to ruin it for everyone, I'll just say that at the time I wanted a certain someone to kill a certain someone at the end but when I thought about it, it wasn't true to that character so I was happy with the ending - it was the way it needed to end.
I agree. The ending made perfect sense. The only thing you could say is they played it safe but I wouldn't say that's a bad thing at all.
One of the best episodes of the show, and the 'real' ending of the Breaking Bad cycle for me. I understand why they wanted to do the two following ones, but I think it could've ended with Ozymandias.
Just saw it was directed by Rian Johnson, the guy who made Looper.
Ozymandias was like the climax of the story, with the final two episodes basically for tying things up.
Personally I felt it worked well.
Personally I felt it worked well.
I thought the final episode was perfect. There wasn't any room for any more twists because they could have potentially ruined the whole thing. I also think it brought it all back around nicely, especially for Walt.
I'll spoiler the rest of my posts for anyone who hasn't finished the series yet.
I think people were always going to be disappointed in the final episode. Ozymandias was pretty much the most perfect episode of television ever, and they were never going to top that, particularly not with something that had to have a definitive ending. Other than leaving the ending open (something that many would have seen as a lazy way of wrapping it all up - "you decide"), or doing something that completely went against a character's beliefs and personality, I can't see how the last episode could have gone any differently.
I'll spoiler the rest of my posts for anyone who hasn't finished the series yet.
I've seen people say that they wanted all sorts of stuff, but I don't really see how any of it could have stayed true to the characters. I saw people saying that they wanted Walt to survive (some even saying they wanted him to have a standoff with the police/DEA, that they wanted Jesse to kill him, that they wanted Walt to kill Jesse, that they wanted Jesse and Walt to escape together, etc., and I don't think any of it would have worked.
As it is, we got a big climactic, action packed ending, and it wrapped up the story in a way that made sense.
Walt wanted to die at the start. He didn't even want cancer treatment. He was utterly miserable and just wanted his life to end. He got persuaded into having the treatment, but it was too expensive for his family to afford. He got offered money to help pay for it, but turned it down so he could earn the money to pay for it himself. From the very beginning, Walt wanted to do things his way, or not at all.
He started to enjoy life again once he realised how good his meth was. However, he started to enjoy it at the expense of pretty much everyone else around him. So, Walt wanted to die at the start, ignoring what his family wanted, then he started getting treatment that was keeping him alive, but he was doing so in a way that distanced himself from his family. The only thing he cared about regarding them, was their opinions of him. Jesse is probably, at this point, included in Walt's definition of 'family', and the distancing thing holds true for him as well.
Once he realised things were starting to spiral out of control, i.e. when the Nazis were involved and Hank/the DEA was on his tail, he stopped enjoying life again, and started to become concerned for his family's future well-being. He knew that the only way out of this was for him to kill the Nazis, and then to die himself. This would allow him to remove the threat from the Nazis towards his family and remove the danger of legal action against his family. It also would allow him to die, just as he wanted at the beginning.
As it is, we got a big climactic, action packed ending, and it wrapped up the story in a way that made sense.
Walt wanted to die at the start. He didn't even want cancer treatment. He was utterly miserable and just wanted his life to end. He got persuaded into having the treatment, but it was too expensive for his family to afford. He got offered money to help pay for it, but turned it down so he could earn the money to pay for it himself. From the very beginning, Walt wanted to do things his way, or not at all.
He started to enjoy life again once he realised how good his meth was. However, he started to enjoy it at the expense of pretty much everyone else around him. So, Walt wanted to die at the start, ignoring what his family wanted, then he started getting treatment that was keeping him alive, but he was doing so in a way that distanced himself from his family. The only thing he cared about regarding them, was their opinions of him. Jesse is probably, at this point, included in Walt's definition of 'family', and the distancing thing holds true for him as well.
Once he realised things were starting to spiral out of control, i.e. when the Nazis were involved and Hank/the DEA was on his tail, he stopped enjoying life again, and started to become concerned for his family's future well-being. He knew that the only way out of this was for him to kill the Nazis, and then to die himself. This would allow him to remove the threat from the Nazis towards his family and remove the danger of legal action against his family. It also would allow him to die, just as he wanted at the beginning.
I think people were always going to be disappointed in the final episode. Ozymandias was pretty much the most perfect episode of television ever, and they were never going to top that, particularly not with something that had to have a definitive ending. Other than leaving the ending open (something that many would have seen as a lazy way of wrapping it all up - "you decide"), or doing something that completely went against a character's beliefs and personality, I can't see how the last episode could have gone any differently.
I'm glad they played it safe.
After however many hours that people dedicated to watching it, resolution was more important than surprise or ambiguity for the sake of it.
After however many hours that people dedicated to watching it, resolution was more important than surprise or ambiguity for the sake of it.
Overall I'd still say that the final episode worked perfectly in some parts, but maybe not as much in others. I'll spoiler this since there's probably some out there still watching and I'd hate to spoil it for anyone:
Walt's resolutions with Skyler and Jesse were perfect. His admitting to Skyler that he cooked the meth for himself and enjoyed it was a massive moment for his character and a good way to end his arc with her. The scene with Walt Jr walking into the home with Walt watching on was poignant because we knew Walt's son would live partly hating his father for what he had done.
The resolution with Jesse worked as well in that neither was able, or particularly willing, to kill the other in the end despite what Walt had done to Jesse.
It was the resolution between Walt and Todd/Jack that was a bit more shaky in that everything kind of fell into place too perfectly in many ways, and we arguably saw too much of the likes of them in comparison to other, more important characters throughout the series like Walt's family who effectively had their one or two scenes and were then gone. Don't get me wrong - it was satisfying to see Walt and Jesse get their revenge by killing Jack and Todd, but the two of them getting their kills almost felt too perfect like wish fulfillment for the audience. Everyone expected Jesse to kill Todd for example, and there wasn't anything wrong with him doing it, but great shows can keep you on your toes with little surprises or not giving you what you want to see. It wasn't bad in any way: it was still satisfying, but it felt a little too perfect in that way.
Despite that, overall the episode was still very strong and Walt's death in the meth lab was a fitting end for him, so it was still a superb episode and strong resolution to the series in general.
The resolution with Jesse worked as well in that neither was able, or particularly willing, to kill the other in the end despite what Walt had done to Jesse.
It was the resolution between Walt and Todd/Jack that was a bit more shaky in that everything kind of fell into place too perfectly in many ways, and we arguably saw too much of the likes of them in comparison to other, more important characters throughout the series like Walt's family who effectively had their one or two scenes and were then gone. Don't get me wrong - it was satisfying to see Walt and Jesse get their revenge by killing Jack and Todd, but the two of them getting their kills almost felt too perfect like wish fulfillment for the audience. Everyone expected Jesse to kill Todd for example, and there wasn't anything wrong with him doing it, but great shows can keep you on your toes with little surprises or not giving you what you want to see. It wasn't bad in any way: it was still satisfying, but it felt a little too perfect in that way.
Despite that, overall the episode was still very strong and Walt's death in the meth lab was a fitting end for him, so it was still a superb episode and strong resolution to the series in general.
I would, especially for a show that did anything but play it safe previously.
I wish they hadn't put the flash forwards in there. You basically knew then that whatever happened with hank, the nazis, Jesse etc that he'd be alive and a free man further down the line.
What's next? The Wire?