Television Breaking Bad

I just saw it as he has no real need for time anymore, expected it would be his last day alive.

Interesting tidbit from Gilligan -


The reason they had Walt place his watch on the pay phone was to ensure continuity since he was not wearing a watch during the flash forward. I reckon they could have let that one go!

In be4 Eboue.

Shut up Eboue
 
I'd recommend The Wire over Sopranos for people just coming off BB. It would be a nice change of pace from the anti hero setup.
 
I kind of loved that we saw the cops come in as he had died, they finally caught him but it was too late.
 
I just saw it as he has no real need for time anymore, expected it would be his last day alive.

Gilligan actually also mentioned this (or something along the lines) as an explanation, but the scene was only put it for the reason kps88 mentioned. Basically, when they did the cold-opening of his 52th birthday he didn't have a watch and during the season they came up with the idea of Jesse giving him one.
 
Gilligan actually also mentioned this (or something along the lines) as an explanation, but the scene was only put it for the reason kps88 mentioned. Basically, when they did the cold-opening of his 52th birthday he didn't have a watch and during the season they came up with the idea of Jesse giving him one.
That would've ruined the show! lol
I guessed that Gray Matter had given him the watch, but I suppose he'd have been rid of it much sooner.

Sons of Anarchy is a hoot, minus season 3, which was cringe-worthy.
 
I'm pleased with the ending. I like that he died in the meth lab so his legacy goes on. As far as the police or the public are concerned, the blue meth that was still on the streets for the last few months was Heisenberg's. Stroking his ego one last time.
 
I'm pleased with the ending. I like that he died in the meth lab so his legacy goes on. As far as the police or the public are concerned, the blue meth that was still on the streets for the last few months was Heisenberg's. Stroking his ego one last time.


I think the fact he was in New Hampshire, called the cops, stole a car from there and left evidence of his trail across Arizona might give the game away. My interpretation was that he wanted revenge for Hank, and to clear his name of his and Gomie's murders (as well as leaving a legacy for people to remember him by) so lead the police there. So yes, it was a bit of ego stroking but not in relation to the meth this time.
 
A decent episode, not one of the great ones, but nicely wound up the series. It did lack the intensity of previous episodes, but I guess that was to be expected, he was pretty obviously going to have to have a showdown with the Nazi's in this episode so there was really no way for them to craft a surprise and its pretty hard to build the tension when you know the episode has to lead up to that point (although the Gretchen and Elliot part was nicely done, the only part of the episode were you genuinely had no idea how it was going to go down). The only thing I guess they could have done that would have been a big surprise would have been the Nazi's killing Walt and winning. But then the Nazi's winning, Walt being dead, and Jesse remaining in slavery, well I can't see that being a big winner with the audience.

Surprised people are complaining about the very end though, I thought it was fitting and a good song choice. Perhap's my biggest disappointment was the unusually poor cold open, for a show that's used them so well over it's run it seemed quite a waste.
 
I think the fact he was in New Hampshire, called the cops, stole a car from there and left evidence of his trail across Arizona might give the game away. My interpretation was that he wanted revenge for Hank, and to clear his name of his and Gomie's murders (as well as leaving a legacy for people to remember him by) so lead the police there. So yes, it was a bit of ego stroking but not in relation to the meth this time.

Nothing saying he was in New Hampshire the whole time in my opinion. He was found dead in the lab. Surely they'd make the assumption that it was his lab. I don't see how it would completely clear his name of Hank and Gomez's murders.
 
How would that clear his name in the Hank and Gomie murder? Surely him leading them to the graves would implicate him further.
 
Nothing saying he was in New Hampshire the whole time in my opinion. He was found dead in the lab. Surely they'd make the assumption that it was his lab. I don't see how it would completely clear his name of Hank and Gomez's murders.

Marie explicitly mentions the car that he stole and he phoned the DEA from New Hampshire. There's plenty to say he was in New Hampshire.
 
How would that clear his name in the Hank and Gomie murder? Surely him leading them to the graves would implicate him further.

Well he told Skyler what had actually happened and I'm inclined to say she believed him.
 
Marie explicitly mentions the car that he stole and he phoned the DEA from New Hampshire. There's plenty to say he was in New Hampshire.

Yes, I said there was nothing to say he was in New Hampshire for the past few months though. I never doubted they could say he was in New Hampshire, just saying they found him in the meth lab so I reckon the assumption would be made that it was his meth lab and the meth on the streets for the past few months was his.
 
Yes, I said there was nothing to say he was in New Hampshire for the past few months though. I never doubted they could say he was in New Hampshire, just saying they found him in the meth lab so I reckon the assumption would be made that it was his meth lab and the meth on the streets for the past few months was his.


Even if he wasn't cooking surely they would make the assumption that he was still the king pin.
 
It was a good finale and the last 3 episodes combined are some of the best TV iv ever seen.
 
Nothing saying he was in New Hampshire the whole time in my opinion. He was found dead in the lab. Surely they'd make the assumption that it was his lab. I don't see how it would completely clear his name of Hank and Gomez's murders.


Because they will find his lived-in cabin avec chemo equipment and various personal possessions in New Hampshire, and the compound belongs to the neo-nazis will have no evidence of a stay. They will find the scene of Hank's death when they use the coordinates Skyler gives them (as well as her story about what Walt said to her about Nazis stealing the money and killing Hank when he broke into her house) and it will match up with what they find both there and at the compound.

I know the police have been made to look stupid for the last few episodes, but I'm sure they will realise Walt killed the neo-nazis and tracing back the events will see they were responsible for Hank and Steve's deaths.
 
Yes, I said there was nothing to say he was in New Hampshire for the past few months though. I never doubted they could say he was in New Hampshire, just saying they found him in the meth lab so I reckon the assumption would be made that it was his meth lab and the meth on the streets for the past few months was his.

I think they'd assume that he was there for some time given the distance from Alberqurque. They'll know that he tried to contact Walt Jr. immediately before he phoned the DEA, and if they bothered to do a local search they'd find that a man looking suspiciously like Walt had recently bought a shack and some land just outside the town. It's far more likely that he fled and came back than traveled all the way to New Hampshire to make a phone call, steal a car and then leave a trail back to New Mexico. The fact that there's a leash set up in the lab, a cage nearby and Walt's fingerprints will literally only be on like two things will place him elsewhere. That and the fact that the meth was being made and put on the market while he was in New Hampshire phoning the DEA. They might have assumed he was still kingpin, but then they'd be asking themselves why he suddenly turned on what would have been his workforce.
 
Because they will find his lived-in cabin avec chemo equipment and various personal possessions in New Hampshire, and the compound belongs to the neo-nazis will have no evidence of a stay. They will find the scene of Hank's death when they use the coordinates Skyler gives them (as well as her story about what Walt said to her about Nazis stealing the money and killing Hank when he broke into her house) and it will match up with what they find both there and at the compound.

I know the police have been made to look stupid for the last few episodes, but I'm sure they will realise Walt killed the neo-nazis and tracing back the events will see they were responsible for Hank and Steve's deaths.

I think you're also making assumptions that the police will watch the last few episodes of Breaking Bad and conclude that Walt wasn't all bad. He's the most wanted man in the States. He was the meth King pin of New Mexico, found dead in a meth lab. His product has been on the streets for the last few months. Yes, they'll be able to conclude that he spent a fair bit of time in New Hampshire but as Irwin said, it makes sense that this was Heisenberg's operation and anyone that could say any different is dead.
 
For those wondering what Todd was about to follow up with before Jesse rather rudely strangled him to death...

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I think you're also making assumptions that the police will watch the last few episodes of Breaking Bad and conclude that Walt wasn't all bad. He's the most wanted man in the States. He was the meth King pin of New Mexico, found dead in a meth lab. His product has been on the streets for the last few months. Yes, they'll be able to conclude that he spent a fair bit of time in New Hampshire but as Irwin said, it makes sense that this was Heisenberg's operation and anyone that could say any different is dead.

Right, so despite there being no evidence of Walt being in Alberqurque at all until that day, and there being evidence of him being in New Hampshire and on the road to Alberqurque before that day, the police are suddenly going to ignore all of that and assume the lab must have been his, because that's where he was found dead. He touched like two things, presumably with the equipment being otherwise covered in Jesse's, Todd's and other Nazis' fingerprints. There's evidence that whoever was cooking was doing so as a captive, and they'll be able to identify Jesse as that captive.

So they'll know Walt wasn't there, and they'll know other people were. They'll know Walt killed everyone there apart from Jesse, and they'll know Walt only arrived that day. They'll know that Walt visited Skyler and she'll be able relay his story about what happened to Hank, yet you're still adamant that they'll assume it was his operation, despite there being literally nothing to place him there before that day.
 
There are 62 episodes in Breaking Bad. The 62nd element on the periodic table is Samarium, that which is used to treat lung cancer.

Neat stuff!
 
I think you're also making assumptions that the police will watch the last few episodes of Breaking Bad and conclude that Walt wasn't all bad.


:rolleyes:

He was the meth King pin of New Mexico, found dead in a meth lab. His product has been on the streets for the last few months. Yes, they'll be able to conclude that he spent a fair bit of time in New Hampshire but as Irwin said, it makes sense that this was Heisenberg's operation and anyone that could say any different is dead.

Any competent investigators (and since the case involves two dead federal agents I think they will do more than a herpa derp 'death meth cook died in lab its his lab' retard logic investigation) will piece together the evidence at least well enough to realise that Walt left Arizona and assumed a new identity after Hank's death (since they will find his wallet with his recently made false ID) and that he's been living there for a month or so while the Nazis operate from that lab. The evidence will corroborate with the story that Skyler passes on, and they will have to pin the murders on the nazis.
 
To be fair, whilst I'm all for debate on the show does stuff like this really matter? The shows over, never going to find out. Could start a debate "Whath appened to Jesse? I reckon he was in a car accident!"
 
To be fair, whilst I'm all for debate on the show does stuff like this really matter? The shows over, never going to find out. Could start a debate "Whath appened to Jesse? I reckon he was in a car accident!"


true enough. It is a bit 'who'd win in a fight, Goku or Superman?'