Television Breaking Bad

He knew which table she would be at, took away all the other sachets and placed a single one that he resealed (somehow) with ricin in it. She asks the waiter for some more of that sweetener because there was only one at the table.
 
I don't care about complaints about realism or it being a happy ending or whatever, but the complete lack of tension in the last half hour in a show that is renowned for it was a bit of a let down. Still a great final season and a great show of course.

We also need more massage chair appreciation.

Yeah. The whole episode felt kind of flat.
 
Thought it was good. Not the greatest episode of the show, but perfectly decent. Once you're expecting surprises, there's no point in having surprises. It becomes it's own little unorganic tick box. And I certainly don't think ambiguity would've been the way to go. It was a far more specific story than the likes of The Wire or Sopranos, so it would've been more of a cop out to go that route IMO.

They went out basically trying to please everyone in a way. It was enough of a "win" for people who wanted to see him win, and obviously enough of a "loss" for people who wanted to see him lose. It was very well made too. My only gripes would be that Jesse was very underused and the Lydia stuff was pretty meh too, mainly because I've always been incredibly meh about her character.
 
I don't really understand his overall reasoning for poisoning Lydia(at least before it was revealed she kinda had Todd threaten his family)....the deed itself not too bad, he probably just planted it there prior to her showing up.

But other than, great ending really. Thankfully they didn't go into it trying for it to be the best episode, just did what they needed too and had planned, and delivered on it.
 
Thought it was pretty much a spot on ending really. The episode in its self wasn't amazing but in the bigger picture, it had to be done.
 
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It felt flat because it was the ending we kind of suspected, loads of people and the main character dying. It was a good ending though.

Loved the bit when Walt motioned and the red dot's came onto Gretchen and Elliot and then it turned out to be Skinny P and Badger with laser pens :lol:.
 
I don't really understand his overall reasoning for poisoning Lydia(at least before it was revealed she kinda had Todd threaten his family)....the deed itself not too bad, he probably just planted it there prior to her showing up.

But other than, great ending really. Thankfully they didn't go into it trying for it to be the best episode, just did what they needed too and had planned, and delivered on it.


Isn't it just because she was distributing his meth?
 
If he wanted his product to end, it ends with the death of Jesse....who he didn't he want to kill, for obvious reasons. Hell he didn't even talk about his part in Grey Matter to Gretchen and Elliot(which I think most thought he would), which is why I found it odd he wanted to kill her so badly for distributing his product. Eh, don't matter too much. Just don't think she had done anything woefully bad to him, that he knew of, like the others he went after. Shes still deserved her death, so barely matters, just could of met Skylar before it maybe.
 
It felt flat because it was the ending we kind of suspected, loads of people and the main character dying. It was a good ending though.

Loved the bit when Walt motioned and the red dot's came onto Gretchen and Elliot and then it turned out to be Skinny P and Badger with laser pens :lol:.


I knew immediately that's who that was. I'm usually the least perceptive person too. Was a great scene though as I wasn't expecting that to be the purpose of his visit.
 
Lydia would have been one terrifyingly paranoid and psychopathic loose end to leave after his last hurrah with the neo-nazis. He saw from working with her that she is likely to be a threat to his family once he's gone and there is no more police protection, just because she met Skyler once.

Her answer to any situation is just to get someone else to kill whoever was involved.
 
If he wanted his product to end, it ends with the death of Jesse....who he didn't he want to kill, for obvious reasons. Hell he didn't even talk about his part in Grey Matter to Gretchen and Elliot(which I think most thought he would), which is why I found it odd he wanted to kill her so badly for distributing his product. Eh, don't matter too much. Just don't think she had done anything woefully bad to him, that he knew of, like the others he went after. Shes still deserved her death, so barely matters, just could of met Skylar before it maybe.


No I think he knows Jesse doesn't want to cook anymore.
 
I don't think he cares about him being able to cook it, regardless of if he wanted too or not. He didn't mention Gretchen and Elliot completing disowning his involvement in the creation of Grey Matter.....he's let his ego go at this point, which worked great to end the show. I'll just think he killed her because he knows she a bit of paranoid crazy loon.
 
I'm surprised people found that episode a bit flat. I thought the tone was perfect.It wrapped things up perfectly.
 
Lydia knew that Skyler was involved so it's possible that he killed her in case she ever got caught.
 
Of all the complaints to have, being predictable is probably the most unfair, IMO. Of course it was going to be. Simply chucking in something mental from left field so that people can say "I really didn't see that coming" is pointless. This is what it has all been building to for the last five or six episodes. I thought at one point it would be suicide by cop, but that probably could never have been as Walt wouldn't have felt it was on his terms. Jesse got to make a choice between killing Walter or not, which was what most of us expected. This wasn't a show that was ever going to be about some crazy, last minute reveal. The beauty of the show was in how it got here.

I also liked the music in the episode. It was quite jarring at times, which is something they've done well throughout the five seasons.
 
However, it was the perfect ending.

That's how I view it. It was the right ending.

Other films or series might need a brilliant ending or a fantastic twist to finish it off but it was completely unnecessary in this case. If they'd have tried to be too clever, they'd have ruined it. The story told has been incredible over the 5 series, they didn't need an over head kick, just a simple tap in.
 
Of all the complaints to have, being predictable is probably the most unfair, IMO. Of course it was going to be. Simply chucking in something mental from left field so that people can say "I really didn't see that coming" is pointless. This is what it has all been building to for the last five or six episodes. I thought at one point it would be suicide by cop, but that probably could never have been as Walt wouldn't have felt it was on his terms. Jesse got to make a choice between killing Walter or not, which was what most of us expected. This wasn't a show that was ever going to be about some crazy, last minute reveal. The beauty of the show was in how it got here.

I also liked the music in the episode. It was quite jarring at times, which is something they've done well throughout the five seasons.
That's how I view it. It was the right ending.

Other films or series might need a brilliant ending or a fantastic twist to finish it off but it was completely unnecessary in this case. If they'd have tried to be too clever, they'd have ruined it. The story told has been incredible over the 5 series, they didn't need an over head kick, just a simple tap in.

Excellently put. The two above.

Actually, anyone know the significance of him leaving his watch on the pay phone?

I just saw it as he has no real need for time anymore, expected it would be his last day alive.
 
I just saw it as he has no real need for time anymore, expected it would be his last day alive.

True.

Initially I thought he left as a hint to the cops that it was him who made the phone call to gain Elliott and Gretchen's address, before murdering them. Especially when he said it was going to be some story.
 
Apologies. Got my timing wrong. I was bog-eyed at 4am

If you treat the last half of the season as the finale, rather than one show, I think people have less reason to be disappointed. Instead it was remarkable.

If you watched the final three episodes together as a movie you'd be blown away.
 
I always wished we could see TV shows in the cinema. Like a special finale event. Watching this in a theater packed with BB fans would have been awesome.
 
If you watched the final three episodes together as a movie you'd be blown away.
That touches on they way I have tried to sell this show to people. It puts Hollywood to shame. If a relatively small cable TV company can put out something like this, over so many shows, the film industry needs to pull its fecking finger out! Prometheus was the last movie I was desperate to see, and that didn't go well.
 
That touches on they way I have tried to sell this show to people. It puts Hollywood to shame. If a relatively small cable TV company can put out something like this, over so many shows, the film industry needs to pull its fecking finger out! Prometheus was the last movie I was desperate to see, and that didn't go well.

In the defence of movies, television shows have so much more time for character development. Shows will always have that over movies. Breaking Bad was able to 'waste' an episode on Walt chasing a fly for its entirety. We become way more attached to a Walter White or Jesse Pinkman rather than a John McClane or Luke Skywalker.
 
You got the first two letters of the third one right......should of ended with "adwood" though.