Television Breaking Bad

How on earth was Confessions so low?! 42nd?! Outstanding episode. Not only was there the confession, which was probably in my top 5 BB moments, you had Jesse seeing red at the end. No way are there 41 episodes better than that.
End Times at 41?! Walt awaiting death, Jesse set to kill him, Walt turning the tables. Sandwiched by arguably the two best episodes.
Bit by a Dead Bee above them both at 40? Walt wanders around naked.
Sunset at 38 (as you can probably tell I'm still going through them)! The tension and plot at the end were outstanding. Top 20, possibly even top 10. Definitely top 20 though.
Gray Matter at 33, Jesus. This really is a shit list. It wasn't a good episode (as many of the first season weren't). It's important to the story as it shows Walt's pride and explains how the following events can happen. But Confessions and End Times are definitely better IMO.
To'hajiillee at 32, for the shootout and sense of inevitablilty alone it should be higher. Walt's frantic state too. Though the big gap between only Hank knowing about Walt and Gomez knowing about Walt was a shame.
Granite State at 28? Seems a tad low considering everything with Jesse. Killing Andrea was awful and brilliant at the same time.
Half Measures at 24 :lol:
Not sure Better Call Saul deserves to be 10th. Did introducing many people's favourite character make the episode that good? Not for me.
Crawl Space at 9? Is the show that good to have that episode so low?
Fly should be nowhere near the top 25 let alone the top 5. It's a marmite episode, and like most 'marmite' things, I thought it was alright. I'm not one who thinks it's boring and shit and therefore the worst episode ever, but I'm certainly not one of those who thinks it was a beautifully subtle work of art.
4 Days Out at #1? Not a chance. Good episode - the funniest, but surely not the best episode of Breaking Bad.

Shit list.

Should do a collaborative 'RedCafe Ranks Every Breaking Bad Episode'.
 
Thought I've just had. Two plotlines which haven't really gone anywhere are Marie's thievery and Marie's research on poisons for Walt. Could Marie steal the ricin and use it on Walt?
 
Feeky_Magee said:
Thought I've just had. Two plotlines which haven't really gone anywhere are Marie's thievery and Marie's research on poisons for Walt. Could Marie steal the ricin and use it on Walt?
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People keep talking about Marie's storyline as if it didn't go anywhere. Was it just me who thought it was there solely for perspective? Marie and Hank are having real difficulties with it all, and seek Skyler's help, who's got a disabled son, an unplanned daughter and a drug kingpin.

Marie will not steal the ricin to use on Walt.

Does anyone think that we'll see much of the flash-forward in the finale?

kouroux said:
Am I the only one who knows feck all about episode titles ?
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If you've watched the DVDs or watched live you won't. For all of us watching via other means, you're seeing the title every week. You're also killing time while it's off air reading the wiki pages on them all.
 
Liam147 said:
People keep talking about Marie's storyline as if it didn't go anywhere. Was it just me who thought it was there solely for perspective? Marie and Hank are having real difficulties with it all, and seek Skyler's help, who's got a disabled son, an unplanned daughter and a drug kingpin.

Marie will not steal the ricin to use on Walt.

Does anyone think that we'll see much of the flash-forward in the finale?



If you've watched the DVDs or watched live you won't. For all of us watching via other means, you're seeing the title every week. You're also killing time while it's off air reading the wiki pages on them all.
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How dare you assume something like that about me :wenger: ?
 
kouroux said:
Am I the only one who knows feck all about episode titles ?
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Pretty much the only one I remember is Box Cutter for obvious reasons.
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So regarding the finale, I've started to believe that Walt will take the ricin, after a scarface-esq shootout or after handing himself in to the DEA, and tell Jesse to make sure his family get the money. Then I noticed that '4 Days Out' was ranked #1 on that EW list so I decided to recap on it, reading up I noticed these lines were said:
"I know I can trust you to, uh…" Walt begins. "Whatever happens, your family will get your share," Jesse replies.
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Now this was season 2, but I still reckon this is a sign, we know how Gilligan drops hints in the past - I like to think this was one of them.

Anyway, just about 2-3 days now, can't wait for the finale - but I'll be gutted once it's all over.
 
I would make the finale full of all the characters eating and drinking things just to send people's paranoia about the ricin over the edge.
 
Gilligan has been on record as saying that they've never planned too far ahead with the show, and that they concept multiple ideas for how the show's plot progresses. He's also been on record as saying it's nice that fans of the show are so thorough and attentive, but much of the "foreshadowing" is simply coincidental.

He's either the most modest man I've ever heard of, or else there are some genuine nutter fanbois out there.
 
There are obviously a lot of butters as is the case with everything that becomes popular.
 
Scrumpet said:
I would make the finale full of all the characters eating and drinking things just to send people's paranoia about the ricin over the edge.
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Sounds like a Christmas episode of Eastenders.

nahealai said:
Gilligan has been on record as saying that they've never planned too far ahead with the show, and that they concept multiple ideas for how the show's plot progresses. He's also been on record as saying it's nice that fans of the show are so thorough and attentive, but much of the "foreshadowing" is simply coincidental.

He's either the most modest man I've ever heard of, or else there are some genuine nutter fanbois out there.
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Well firstly people are confusing foreshadowing with motifs. Like you said, the writers haven't planned scenes that far in advance but when they have Walt kneeling on a towel over a toilet that's an obvious nod to Gus doing it the season before.

Then they obviously put stuff in to feck with us, like the Hank prison bars shot I posted a few pages back and then there's stuff that's just basic screenwriting convention i.e. the chekovs gun stuff with the ricin and the M60.

And then there's just stuff that's a bunch of media studies students being anal about every tiny thing which is the 'thorough and attentive' section of the audience you refer to, aptly mocked by the diner picture on the last page.
 
I know we all parody how numerous the POV shots are in this show, but this is a beautiful, ahem, montage.



I love how it's very cleverly edited to give the impression that some of the shots were linked, e.g. the plane crash and the shot of Don Eladio in his pool.

Superb video.
 
That's another about breaking bad. Apart from being such a brilliantly written and acted show, it is also shot beautifully and the music is always apt.
 
The POV shots are great. That's another of the motifs of the show though. In the same way that you'd associate the 360 pan shot with Michael Bay or a POV shot from the back of car boot with Quentin Tarantino.

I don't think I'd ever seen a shot from the end of a spade before until I'd watched this show. :lol:
 
CassiusClaymore said:
I've found something else we can all argue over....

http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20302134_20737170,00.html

Entertainment Weekly ranks all 61 episodes so far.

After a quick scan I'd personally have 'Sunset', 'Boxcutter', 'To Hajiilee', 'Granite State' and 'Half Measures' much higher. The top 10 isn't bad though. Also I didn't realise 'Fly' was such a divisive episode. I think it's great.
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I can't stand 'Fly'. It doesn't advance the story at all, you could watch the entire series without seeing that episode and miss nothing.

The list isn't that great. Would never have '4 Days Out' as number 1. You're right about Boxcutter and Half Measures need to be alot highier.
 
Zen said:
That's pretty insane....but people who care so much(about being spoiled) deserved to be punished for being ANYWHERE near something that could spoil it for them. I genuinely hate when people moan about twitter spoiling it for them...they only have to stay off the thing for 6 bloody hours or so now, and yet every monday about noon after I watch I'll see something "fecking twitter spoiling breaking bad for me". I tell them to stop it but whatever.
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I've known people to seek out the tags then moan when they get spoiled. Why on earth would you search for something that you know loads of people are going to be talking about, when you don't want to see anyone talking about it?
 
Definitely one of the funniest episodes. Plus it was the first (or only?) time we'd ever seen him express remorse about Jane's death, the only time we'd ever seen him talk explicitly about dying and the only time we'd ever seen him express even a hint of regret about the path he chose. Essentially it was the only time we seen Walt with his guard down. That may not "advance" the story but it added another level of depth to his character.
 
Recommended BB to a friend just got this text


Fantastic !! A Mexican drug dealers head, strapped to an exploding turtle. Pure genius !!!


I'm going to miss this programme. :(
 
Depressing that there's no new show to take it's place. There's Game of Thrones and to a lesser extent Boardwalk Empire, but there hasn't been a new class show for years. Maybe we've been spoiled by a golden age of TV drama these last ten odd years?
 
Brwned said:
Definitely one of the funniest episodes. Plus it was the first (or only?) time we'd ever seen him express remorse about Jane's death, the only time we'd ever seen him talk explicitly about dying and the only time we'd ever seen him express even a hint of regret about the path he chose. Essentially it was the only time we seen Walt with his guard down. That may not "advance" the story but it added another level of depth to his character.
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Yeah I love it. It's nothing to do with arty shit or whatever Liam alluded to, it's just an episode entirely focused on the shows two major characters and like you said, one of the only times you see Walt completely stripped bare. I don't think we've ever seen that level of regret from him since.

And on that note I just watched '4 days out' again. Like 'Fly' it's almost an entirely Walt & Jesse episode, very funny and very poignant. It's a real bonding episode with the pay off at the end when Walt finds out his cancer is in remission after all.

Also it really highlighted how dark the show has gotten since then which seems odd to say about a show where the protagonist is dealing with cancer.
 
C.M.P said:
Recommended BB to a friend just got this text


Fantastic !! A Mexican drug dealers head, strapped to an exploding turtle. Pure genius !!!


I'm going to miss this programme. :(
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I've got a mate watching it (think he started 2 wks ago and is on season 4 already) and he texted me to say that basically the entire series can be summed up with one 'Anchorman' quote...

"Things really escalated there, I mean they really got out of hand."
 
Im watching the fly through again, forgot how funny it was. I disliked it the first time and i'm not sure why.

'Ebola? Now tell me what would a West African virus be doing in our lab?'
 
Neil_Buchanan said:
Im watching the fly through again, forgot how funny it was. I disliked it the first time and i'm not sure why.

'Ebola? Now tell me what would a West African virus be doing in our lab?'
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There's a levity in the earlier episodes that gradually fades along with Walt's morality.

And I was talking shit about not seeing that level of regret from him since. Watched 'salud' earlier and he calls his own son Jesse as he breaks down in tears after their big fight.

Cranston really is an incredible actor.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
There's a levity in the earlier episodes that gradually fades along with Walt's morality.

And I was talking shit about not seeing that level of regret from him since. Watched 'salud' earlier and he calls his own son Jesse as he breaks down in tears after their big fight.

Cranston really is an incredible actor.
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That's why I honestly hate (yes hate) the first season, it looked a lot more like a comedy show than a real drama. Second season onwards it gets good and much better with the inclusion of Gus/Mike.
 
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