Dembele running riot against Freiburg, only thing missing is the goal.
Borussia Dortmund 2016/17
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Patrick Aubameyang: "Madrid is the club of my heart and I promised my grandfather I would play for Real one day. It is a goal, I still have time. I do not mean to provoke interest, if Madrid want me they can come and get me, but so far they have not done so... unfortunately."
I hate shit like this, the pointless sugar coating.
"I promised the bell boy at my last hotel that I'd sign for Real Madrid, they are the club of my heart"
Just say you want to play for arguably the biggest club in the world.
Pierre-Emerick?
Patrick?
EDIT: Damn you RiP
EDIT: Damn you RiP
Whats the problem? He said what he said: Playing there at one point would make him happy.
Much better than pricks like Mr. Sleepless aka Hummels, he talked so much crap i cant even remember everything ("its better to win something with Dortmund than winning something with Bayern cause then they are senseless trophys" ; "I want to play here until my careers end or in a foreign country" ; "The decison is so hard for me i cant sleep anymore, in the end people will understand why" and so on..)
Agreed. Just once I want to hear a footballer come out and say "Listen. Being a football player is a job for me. I'm not a fan, I earn my living with this. It so happens that Real are the most prestigous employer in the world and they'd pay 3 times as much as I earn here. Do you really expect me to turn that down just so your romantic notions of what football should be like are being satisfied?"
If he'd said that it wouldn't bother me, it's the whole promise crap. Every time a footballer wants to leave club, it's because they promised their neighbour they'd play for a certain club (it certainly helps when their the current champions league winners).
With Hummels, that was lame but at least it wasn't because of some phone promise to his grandad.
I'd love to see that, I'd respect it a lot more.
I dont know what you are talking about, hes exactly saying this, in other words. So everybody is in the know what happens if Real Madrid wants to buy him from us. Thats honest transparacy (for us the fans). What else do you want or are expecting?
I'm confused, I'm not sure how to make it more clear. I'm complaining about the way footballers who are likely to move for financial/sporting reasons (understandably) hide behind the premise of a promise to a loved one. I just find it corny and fake.
I think he is a top top striker.
Would do well at real.
Would do well at real.
Auba is a honest to the ground nice person, very humble. He loves to enjoy life, has his things with clothing and style, but he is a down to the earth and nice guy. Speaks openly. He said it the first time years ago (when he was at BVB), that when his granddad was dying he promised to him if its possible he will play at one point for Real. That was the first time i heard of that a player was promising to another person something like this, dont know if it happens in english media every week or that its a common story for you, for me it was the first time.
He does seem like a nice guy and I have no problem with him, I'm not contesting that
. I just don't like it when players use the promise thing, it's an easy way to deflect criticism for wanting to switch clubs. It's happened quite a few times and I'm sure it's genuine in plenty of the cases, I personally don't like it though.I must admit, it's not even a mistake. I was so sure all this time that his first name is Patrick so I haven't even bothered to check it.
then you missed a thing: If he will go at one point to Real, people ,BVB fans, will never be ranting over him like over Hummels, exactly cause of that transparacy! He gave that statement years ago, strange that we talk about that now, and everybody is cool with that.He does seem like a nice guy and I have no problem with him, I'm not contesting that
Its kind a like the situation with Lewandowski, yeah his manager Kurcharsky play games, but that was expactable cause Lewandowski never made a secret out of his "carreer-mode" he lives in. Did we like him, not a lot, will he be in our hearts, no. But thats ok cause he never talked such stuff like Hummels, which really was an example of how you could turn your many great years in a club into a single mess.
Auba on the other side: we know what happens when Real Madrid is using their legendary faxmachine mit the headline "Auba", we will get a lot of money, I somekind of trust Auba when he said again and again that he had an special relationship to his granddad and promised that to him when he was dying and Auba was on the way to be a professional player, why should he lie? We will look back to wonderful years with a special player and a special person, giving vivid colours to the club and the Bundesliga, who arrived here as an unknown and was playing like a headless chick on speed in his first season and who we developed so good and we were sharing great years with.
Dortmund fans, is this the media in England making mountain out of a molehill or is there something to this?'
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...mund-leaves-premier-8982188?ICID=FB_mirror_MF
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...mund-leaves-premier-8982188?ICID=FB_mirror_MF
What went wrong for Dortmund against Leverkusen? A huge missed opportunity when Bayern could only draw.
Making mountain out of a molehill. Cause some troubles between Tuchel and Mislinat are known since TT arrived. But look at how our transferwindows turned out, the first and the last one were great. Seems that they work with each other on a profesional level. Otherwise it wouldnt have been so great what we were tranfering since Tuchel arrived. To get Tuchel before his contract ends is maybe a wish of english media but wont happen.
Was reported by nearly all the German sport sites so the dispute between Mislintat and Tuchel probably did happen. No one has really a clue about the extent of it or even the real reason (the thing with Torres as the mirror states is just one of several theories), though.
Some sites even state that Tuchel banned him from the training facilities which is simply bollox as I don´t believe for a second that Tuchel has even the authority to do so. Both are employees of the club and technically work under Director of football Zorc. Unlike in many English clubs, the coach holds less power in Dortmund as for example the scouting does not fall in his field of responsibilty. If Mislintat and Zorc would have trouble with each other, this might be worrying but as the last transfer window has proven, Mislintat´s input is still held in high regard in Dortmund. The appearant offer to upgrade Mislintat´s position (basically making him Zorc´s true right hand man) also speaks volumes.
The only really troublesome thing about this whole story is that there is appearantly a person in the club leaking internal informations to the press, which is something that is usually not the case in Dortmund.
If it were a one or the other kind of situation, which would you prefer to keep, or believe is more important to Dortmund?
Mislintat, easily. Is with us since 2007 as scout, since 2009 as head scout. The list of his discoveries is long, very long. IMO the biggest strength of Borussia Dortmund is stability and expertise in the managing positions and our scouting system. Mislintat is a huge factor for the latter.
Don´t get me wrong, I rate Tuchel very highly, but a) is he yet not proven on the absolute top level and as integral as Klopp was and b) is the market of highly talented coaches deeper than the one concerning scouts.
If Tuchel decides to not renew his contract with us, I have no doubt that we would be able to attract a very good successor. And I don´t see him breaching his current contract and leaving sooner as that would ruin his reputation for good in Germany and would for example also make the board of Bayern Munich (the only bigger fish in the German pond) think twice before appointing him in the future.
100% agree.
What do BVB fans say about professor Wolf move to VFB? That must be a huge loss?
That's what I was thinking more or less, that it'd be Tuchel that'd be more easily replaced, especially since you done as such with Klopp.
Why would a manager leaving their contract early ruin their rep in Germany? Managers move clubs all the time, didn't Tuchel break his with Mainz even? Klopp too, but it seems that was more of a mutual decision.
Right now for our U19 and youth academy in general it certainly hurts, but I´m not sure that this is actually a bad thing. I somehow doubt that we have seen the last of Wolf at Dortmund. I base that on several reasons:
1. I found it very odd at first how easily we let him go in the middle of a very difficult season for the U19. They suffered multiple serious injuries of key players (Fritsch, Serra, Scuderi etc.) and "lost" with Passlack the captain and Pulisic probably the most talented player to the senior team. It will be a hard season with very little chance to defend the title. Overall not a very good timing to change coaches, unless of course it is for the good of the club in the long run.
2. A good friend of mine is a lifelong Stuttgart supporter and pretty well informed. According to him their DoF wanted a young and dynamic coach and Wolf was thanks to his reputation as fantastic youth coach the top candidate for the position by a wide margin. They actually wanted to give him a three year contract, but Wolf only signed until 2018. Now guess whose contract has the same length.
3. Wolf is very highly rated in Dortmund. Pretty much everyone see him as a very good tactican and a fantastic man manager. Beisdes his expertise as coach he was very popular as personality aswell given that he was born in the Ruhr area and Dortmund supporter since childhood. There were quite a few who saw him as the eventual head coach, but the chatter around the club also suggested that the head officials would be very hesistant to give someone such a big coaching job without prior experience in seniior football.
4. CEO Watzke made it very clear with the anuoncement of Wolf´s departure that they would "very closely" follow his stint at Stuttgart.
For me most signs point towards a very clear scenario: The Stuttgart position is a grooming job for Wolf. A chance to prove himself in senior football at a pretty big German club with no small expectations. If he proves himself there (which means nothing else than direct promotion and keeping Stuttgart in the Bundesliga the next season) and fulfills the potential he very clearly has, he will be on the very top of the list in the case that Tuchel indeed departs Dortmund in 2018.
Yes, he did it once before already at a way smaller club compared to Borussia Dortmund. Doing it another time would cement the reputation of not really upholding contracts. What I meant with breaching his contract is leaving against the will of the officials of Dortmund, basically forcing his way out. That would be very different to the case of Klopp where the seperation was very amicable and more a huge gesture by Klopp to step down by himself which saved the Club millions.
Aye, this had a feeling of being a quite happy parting, that suited both Klopp and the team well.
Just a shame he popped up at Liverpool.
Nice answer mate..
This is just what I thought, but I am fairly sure he will stay there a bit longer that is if things go well. He had a great start with introduction of some young talents.
He will get the time he needs at VFB because they are in dire need of a fresh start (again).. VFB also seem to have a great youth system (Leno, Werner, Kimmich).
I hope he stays at VFB for a while as I like them to do well. But as you said he comes with a fantastic reputation and BVB most likely allowed this.
@Sphaero Why has Kagawa not been playing much, if at all? Can't recall seeing him in the starting XI at all this season and only like once or twice coming off the bench. I expected to see him play at least as much as last season with Mkhitaryan leaving. Guess he's gotta compete with the likes of Gotze, Schurrle, and Pulisic, but even still, Ramos is seeing plenty of time on the pitch. Has Kagawa regressed that much or is Tuchel not much of a fan?
He started the first three games of the season, scored a brace in the German Cup, and then picked up a knock and was out for a few days. Over the next 6 games, the team won 4 in a row and scored 22 goals.
So it's been hard for him to get back into the side, given the form of the players up until the Leverkusen defeat.
He scored 10 goals and assisted 11 last season.
piszczek - sokratis - subotic - schmelzer
- - - - - bender - - - - guerreiro - - - - -
- - - reus - - - castro - - - schürrle - - -
- - - - - - - - - - ramos - - - - - - - - - -
what a great line-up of injured players
- - - - - bender - - - - guerreiro - - - - -
- - - reus - - - castro - - - schürrle - - -
- - - - - - - - - - ramos - - - - - - - - - -
what a great line-up of injured players
I saw the second half of that game yesterday against Hertha. Never usually watch the Bundesliga but that was one of the most entertaining second half of a game I've seen all season.
Fascinating insight - thanks. I LOL at the length of Wolf's contract
what a great post that does in a way "confirm" what the whole "wolf leaving during the ongoing season" might have been all about. i somehow wish that it may turn out like that. wolf's work with the youngsters was nothing but astonishing.
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Emre is an incredible talent. Dribbling past defenders is as natural to him as drinking water. I am quite amazed that given his name did not pop up just before the Euros, how come he copes pressure so easily.
You will hear his name a lot very soon. Just hoping that United will be his next club.
Savage from Watzke talking about if he had a chance to re sign Mkhitaryan he said no and also
We need to cope with losing two world class players in Hummels and Gundogan and also Mkhitaryan," Watzke said.
We need to cope with losing two world class players in Hummels and Gundogan and also Mkhitaryan," Watzke said.
Will need an industrial pressure washer to get all the sand out of that vag.
Well in hindsight he wasn't really worth the club record fee they payed for him. They got 3 seasons out of him of which two were average to shitty and 1 was almost world class. Of course they managed to recoup the transfer fee but from a club record signing you would probably expect a bit more than he delivered over the three seasons, so I can understand why he might feel the deal wasn't worth it. Of course the losing two world class players and Mkhitaryan is a fairly petty and smells of being butt hurt but that's Watzke for you, not the most polite person around who likes to have a dig at other teams/managers/coaches/players every now and then.