Boehly is going to ruin Chelsea (hopefully)
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Unlike the Glazers, he’s actually trying and this is what he’s coming up with 
The Felix deal is one of the worst I’ve seen.
- No option to buy
- Player signing a new 4 year deal with parent club
- Costing approx £700k per week (fees and full wage)
Chelsea just being used to keep him warm at a massive cost.
Clearly the player has no real desire to leave either and if any negotiations take place in summer Atletico have him on a fresh contract until 2027..
- No option to buy
- Player signing a new 4 year deal with parent club
- Costing approx £700k per week (fees and full wage)
Chelsea just being used to keep him warm at a massive cost.
Clearly the player has no real desire to leave either and if any negotiations take place in summer Atletico have him on a fresh contract until 2027..
Is there a new Caf rule prohibiting the use of paragraphs?
How are Chelsea going to be able to register all these players when you’re only allowed a certain number of players in the match squad?
First I'll repeat for about the 100th time that I think Felix is a bad signing.
However I'll also say the 'player signs a new 4 year deal with parent club' bit is totally irrelevant. He's already on a contract till 2026 and the only reason he's signing a one year extension before the loan is so Atletico can get his amortisation cost down from €18M to €14M a year because they're not getting the even more obscene loan fee they were initially looking for (15M+).
Signing a one year extension doesn't mean Felix has no intention of leaving Atletico in the summer. It's being said he's signing it to help Atletico with their finances a little bit and the contract being till 2027 instead of just 2026 is also very unlikely to affect any potential future transfer value because he already had multiple years left before. Whether a player has 3 years left or 4 years left matters just about feck all for transfer value.
Chelsea have done the 'extend by a year before sending the player out on loan' trick a bunch of times with players that had absolutely no future at the club.
Now it's possible that Atletico still want to keep him and are planning to take him back after the loan in case Simeone decides to call it quits after the season, but more likely they're still going to want to sell him in the summer whether it's to Chelsea or to someone else.
No problems with registration at all. In fact we have multiple vacant spots in the non-HG squad list.
Boehly is the new Ed Woodward and I'm here for it.
They are protecting their asset and Felix is quite happy to oblige.
As you say it’s a trick the big club usually pulls on the smaller one..
Go figure!
Ah okay, is that also the case for the CL registration as well? They seem to be more stringent than the PL squad list.
But there's really nothing to protect, as Felix was already tied up on a long term deal? The only reason Atletico have done it was to help their own finances due to lower amortisation cost in the short term, and Felix happily obliged because it meant he now also has one more guaranteed year of high salary.
For Felix himself it's a no-brainer really. Either he plays well enough on loan to earn himself a permanent move elsewhere which makes the longer contract at Atletico meaningless anyway, or he has a stinker of a loan and goes back to Atletico with even longer left on his high value contract that his performances in the last few years for them don't actually merit. From the players own point of view he can only win in this scenario.
The MARCA article that first reported the news about Felix signing a one year extension before the loan also mentioned they recently extended Lemar (to 2027) and Oblak (to 2028) to balance their accounts by lowering the amortisation. Their finances seem a bit fecked at the moment so every little bit helps, even if it might cause them problems in the long run with ageing players on high salary deals. With Felix even if they were planning to sell him on a permanent transfer in the summer the extension helps their accounts for the 22/23 season.
You're reading way too much into that bit just to suit your own agenda.
For the UCL group stage we only filled 15 of the 17 possible non-HG places and a total of 9 HG or association trained. The squad can have a maximum of 25 players so there's one place left and at the very least Felix can be registered with no problems.
Any further additions would need someone to be removed. Broja who suffered a season-ending injury was registered on the B list so removing him won't free up a place for another to come in. The most obvious choice, if needed, would be to remove Bettinelli the 3rd choice keeper and replace him with a youth goalie on the B list to free up another place for an outfield player in the A list.
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Spot on. Atleti is in financial shit with the La Liga salary cap and this is just playing with the numbers to help their accounting and maybe give them some space to bring in another striker.
Sorry. It is just amusing to see Chelsea operating so badly after all these years and the rubbish we’ve endured with the Glazers (and ridicule)
I fear you may have missed the point or I didn't do the best job of explaining it. I meant it from the perspective of managing a big club in the premier league vs a big club in another league. Small team managers from the premier league directly jumping to a big team in the premier league rarely succeed, because they miss a fundamental step in bridging the gap between doing well with limited resources in a restricted setup, and joining a money-fuelled circus at a top club where you have to set up very different structures and often have far wider responsibilities. Most of the mentioned managers had all managed big clubs before moving to England to manage a big club. Operationally, a top premier league club is one of the most chaotic jobs in football, with only perhaps Madrid to give competition (still better)
What, you mean managing one the English big 6 clubs is fundamentally different from, and more difficult than, managing Barcelona, Bayern, PSG or Juventus? Don't really see that, to be honest.
ffsI'd like to counter with a 'hold on let him cook' meme but I already received a warning for inappropriate meme usage a few weeks ago.
Squad management may be similar, but dealing with the organization that employs you is significantly harder in my opinion. Major ownership and club management transitions happen a lot more often in the big clubs of England, and each of those transitions presents an opportunity for fortunes to turn drastically because they take any sense of existing structure with them. In fact Chelsea had an owner who gave the club pretty much whatever they needed and whenever they needed, and even then they couldn't really build sustainable structures that could survive the transition to a new owner. Most of the sporting structures needed to be rebuilt, the owner became sporting director, and then we know what happened - and Boehly's got lots of it wrong.
Most of the clubs you mentioned are operationally very tight ships, even though the likes of Barcelona and Juventus have had to deal with the literal fraudulent decisions of men. Every Premier League club would be blessed to have a sense of structure the way Bayern does, none of them have sustainably managed to build it over the last 2 decades, Liverpool under Fenway may have likely come the closest but don't have the financial backing available at scale. Managers at the end of the day are still just managers, and they do better when the organizations employing them have their sh*t together. Their fates change in days at a big club in England.
Boehly just doesn't know what he fecking bought, and has no idea how to make it work.
Smarter people than Boehly fail in merging two businesses or taking over an existing business - it happens all the fecken time.
He's under the impression that the previous regime tried to actively sabotage him, he's got a hundred agents whispering BS in his ear, and he's buying it line hook and sinker.
The quicker he distances himself from the day to day ops and hires competent football people to run the club the better he'd be.
Smarter people than Boehly fail in merging two businesses or taking over an existing business - it happens all the fecken time.
He's under the impression that the previous regime tried to actively sabotage him, he's got a hundred agents whispering BS in his ear, and he's buying it line hook and sinker.
The quicker he distances himself from the day to day ops and hires competent football people to run the club the better he'd be.
You’ll be glad to know this has already happened.
Let's see it play out - never underesimate the ego of American owner
What I don't get with this signing - is why Chelsea don't get a player who scores goals instead. My main criticism against Felix (and why I didn't want him at United) is that he is a creative player - who doesn't score goals consistently. If Chelsea had a couple of lethal strikers who werent given enough support from midfield - Felix would be ideal. But Chelsea has plenty of creative players - but they all have the same issue, they don't score a lot of goals
Ziyech 1 goal in 6 games
Sterling was a good goalscorer - but his stats dropped a lot in his last 2 seasons at City. At Chelsea he has been a 1 in almost 4
Pulisic is a 1 in 5 - and his stats have dropped after his first season at Chelsea
Mount is a 1 in almost 6
Aubameyang doesn't seem like he wants to be there - so I hardly consider him
Havertz is a 1 in 4
Broja has 1 goal in 19 matches for Chelsea, and despite all the praise - he only scored 6 league goals at Southampton
What this means is that City at present don't have a single player looking capable of scoring much more than 10 goals a season - will Felix solve that issue ? I just don't see it.
Ziyech 1 goal in 6 games
Sterling was a good goalscorer - but his stats dropped a lot in his last 2 seasons at City. At Chelsea he has been a 1 in almost 4
Pulisic is a 1 in 5 - and his stats have dropped after his first season at Chelsea
Mount is a 1 in almost 6
Aubameyang doesn't seem like he wants to be there - so I hardly consider him
Havertz is a 1 in 4
Broja has 1 goal in 19 matches for Chelsea, and despite all the praise - he only scored 6 league goals at Southampton
What this means is that City at present don't have a single player looking capable of scoring much more than 10 goals a season - will Felix solve that issue ? I just don't see it.
Pulisic is a direct player, not very creative. About the only one on that list that is creative is Ziyech, but he is so slow that most Premier teams can shut him down before he can create.
Let him destroy Chelsea. I still haven't forgotten how we became a bogey team to Chelsea. Let them rot
Everything he's touching is turning to shite.
So a man who is buying every player available with zero strategy is trusted to get this right, including the managerial appointments? Good luck with that guys
The obvious question is who is he going to buy to replace Felix now.
There's a reason I don't want any more American owners anywhere near us. Remember, this guy was picked after a process supposed to bring out the best option for the club. I dread to think what the rest were.
the American Ed Woodward
I doubt that process was proper.
Bet some Chelsea fans wish the government just let them expire and dissolve.
Maybe, maybe not. But he is obviously completely clueless, just as I suspect the rest of them are.
No strategy. I wonder how much control Potter has?
I hate Chelsea but would like to see Potter get more time. Jesus his training has new faces every week!
I hate Chelsea but would like to see Potter get more time. Jesus his training has new faces every week!
He's absolutely ruining them, no one is going to convince me that the players he's signed in this window were Potter's picks. He's sacked a top class coach in Tuchel, brought in someone massively out of his depth in Potter and is giving him players he probably doesn't want.
I guess I'm in a minority here thinking the whole forced sale was crazy, only for some douchebag Americans to end up with the club and illustrate their incompetence and suggest pathetic changes to the game in England. Anyhow, I feel for Potter as I like him and I think it was the wrong move for him.
He's a breath of fresh air
Imagine firing Tuchel and replacing him with Potter? What a Fkn mistake by the club.
that’s the face of a man who knows what the feck he is doing. the only one named brazilian he’ll be signing any time soon is diabetes.