Boehly is going to ruin Chelsea (hopefully)

Well sure - some of the deals were agreed last year but surely it's arbitrary to say that we aren't buying anyone when the plan all along was for them to join this summer anyhow?

The Saudi money combined is less than what we've sold Mount or Havertz for. People are fixating on us getting a total of 40m for three players when we had similar offers from European clubs for Ziyech and Mendy and we're taking a loss on Koulibaly. I'm glad we're taking the opportunity but let's not pretend like this is akin to us fleecing China for Oscar and Ramires in the past.

Odds are we'll push for another player who can rotate with Nkunku centrally but also play wide at times - Kudus from Ajax or Szoboszlai from Leipzig would make sense here. Would also love for us to get Lavia from Southampton.

First XI probably is something like:

Kepa
James-Fofana-Silva-Chilwell
Enzo-Caicedo(?)
Madueke-Nkunku-Mudryk
Jackson

4 players that need to settle really quickly next season.
 
Well sure - some of the deals were agreed last year but surely it's arbitrary to say that we aren't buying anyone when the plan all along was for them to join this summer anyhow?

The Saudi money combined is less than what we've sold Mount or Havertz for. People are fixating on us getting a total of 40m for three players when we had similar offers from European clubs for Ziyech and Mendy and we're taking a loss on Koulibaly. I'm glad we're taking the opportunity but let's not pretend like this is akin to us fleecing China for Oscar and Ramires in the past.

Odds are we'll push for another player who can rotate with Nkunku centrally but also play wide at times - Kudus from Ajax or Szoboszlai from Leipzig would make sense here. Would also love for us to get Lavia from Southampton.

First XI probably is something like:

Kepa
James-Fofana-Silva-Chilwell
Enzo-Caicedo(?)
Madueke-Nkunku-Mudryk
Jackson

Yes your annoyingly lucky with some of these sales.. I was screwing at the time with the China offers.

But my point is you have brought a high volume of players who are unsuccessful. If this is not reviewed i am very sure this will continue.

You might be happy about the two high profile sales but they was also your best assets and look at the team you’ve drawn up. It’s a good 3 years away from competing for anything and if your incomings have the same trajectory. It could be even longer and that’s why I relate it to Woodward. The planning is poor.
 
4 players that need to settle really quickly next season.

Yep 100%. In theory they'll be set up reasonably well to do so, given the deals have been done early, the managerial appointment is done, they've a full preseason (plus extra time in training given no CL), etc.
 
You brought them players last season except for Jackson and let’s be honest who the hell is he.

Fair play for the sales but your only doing it because your poor planning meant you had to… add on top of that.. this only happened by chance because of Saudi.

It’s exactly like Woodward the plan might sound good but it’s so floored it’s actually kind of funny to watch.

Out of interest what are your players and positions you expect to be filled in the summer so i can have a view of what your team will look like for next season.
I have high hopes for gallagher to be integrated fully. I think him,moises and enzo will be our midfield option. He has all the traits to be a goal scoring midfielder with energy.If add defensive traits like timing the tackles,when to take risk and positional discipline he will be handy. That can be coached into him and pochettino will love him in my opinion.

New striker we wont need as of now because we wont fight for title anyway and without europe Nkunku jackson and broja should be enough.

We should add goal keeper to fight for no.1 position with kepa.

Our team shaping up nicely albeit in theory. Our first match against liverpool will surprise many i hope.
 
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Yes your annoyingly luck with some of these sales.. I was screwing at the time with the China offers.

But my point is you have brought a high volume of players who are unsuccessful. If this is not reviewed i am very sure this will continue.

You might be happy about the two high profile sales but they was also your best assets and look at the team your drawn up. It’s a good 3 years away from competing for anything and if your incomings have the same trajectory. It could be even longer and that’s why I relate it to Woodward. The planning is poor.

I certainly hope not!

I don't think we necessarily disagree a whole lot here - you are absolutely not wrong to point out the (many) moving pieces that have to align for this strategy to work. I suppose I'm looking at this more in the short term - assuming all of the dumb things have been established coming into this window, what is the best case scenario? And I don't think we are too far removed from that at the moment. Of course it could all go haywire for a million different reasons, but who knows really. I'm just glad the club seem to be doing something that seems to be competent more or less?

Gotcha with regard to Woodward - the faff about competing down the line does make sense and you aren't wrong there. But don't you put that evil on me please!

(Also our best assets are Reece James and Enzo Fernandez, thank you very much!)
 
Well I can’t name the specific major mistakes during this process, but if an 24 year old, champions league winner, two time winner of poty and academy lad ends in position where he, more or less, forces his way out of the club strongly point to that mistakes were made along the way.

Are you disagreeing?
Agreed wholeheartedly
 
We drew the last breath of a very aging squad to win the CL. This team was even then in need of an overhaul. We were very fortunate to have survived a flashed sale of a team. New owners who knew nothing of the league. It might be very clunky the way the overhaul is going, but the overhaul was very needed. Even before Roman was forced to sell, the handling of Rudiger and Christiansen was a major blow.

Having a young team that need to grow is exciting to me. Having owners that want to win and are willing to recruit talent is nice, even if they walk into a few walls along the way.
 
We drew the last breath of a very aging squad to win the CL. This team was even then in need of an overhaul. We were very fortunate to have survived a flashed sale of a team. New owners who knew nothing of the league. It might be very clunky the way the overhaul is going, but the overhaul was very needed. Even before Roman was forced to sell, the handling of Rudiger and Christiansen was a major blow.

Having a young team that need to grow is exciting to me. Having owners that want to win and are willing to recruit talent is nice, even if they walk into a few walls along the way.

Your squad is so convoluted that it's hard to tell what's happening.

As it stands right now which players do you see as your most important and which positions do you hope you sign players in? (Other than striker as I think that's fairly obvious)
 
Hard to predict how it'll go this season. Another revolving door of players being dropped in, not especially familiar names in most cases. Chilwell and James injury record being patchy and how significant that can be at times and then Kepa in goal who's had a pretty huge range in performance levels over the years add to the volatility. New manager too.
Signings will be important. Probably need to show some restraint and dont add too many new players to the mix. Probably a similar shopping list to us needed from here. Striker, Midfielder and Goalkeeper. They could definitely do more but i'd stop at that point
 
Your squad is so convoluted that it's hard to tell what's happening.

As it stands right now which players do you see as your most important and which positions do you hope you sign players in? (Other than striker as I think that's fairly obvious)
James, Enzo and Nkunku.

Striker is a bit of a complex question, it's easy to say "sign a proven goalscorer" but we've signed 3 proven PL scorers in the previous 2 summers and our scoring issues have got even worse. My belief is look after the system first and everything else by hook or by crook will take care of itself. For example last time we had a fully functioning system was the period of autumn 2021 when Lukaku was injured and we were scoring bucketloads despite no 'proper' striker.
 
James, Enzo and Nkunku.

Striker is a bit of a complex question, it's easy to say "sign a proven goalscorer" but we've signed 3 proven PL scorers in the previous 2 summers and our scoring issues have got even worse. My belief is look after the system first and everything else by hook or by crook will take care of itself. For example last time we had a fully functioning system was the period of autumn 2021 when Lukaku was injured and we were scoring bucketloads despite no 'proper' striker.

Cheers, I really think you are so interesting at the minute. I also think you're the club the more than anyone those answers will be totally different in 6 months.

For example I'd be really surprised it Porch doesn't get a tune out of Sterling.
 
What's their starting XI likely to be?

--------------------Kepa
James - Fofana - Badiashile - Chilwell
------Enzo - Gallagher??? - Caicedo???
Madueke ------- Nkunku ----------- Mudryk

I don't get it.. They need to sign 4-5 players.. Who are they linked to other than Caicedo?
 
What's their starting XI likely to be?

--------------------Kepa
James - Fofana - Badiashile - Chilwell
------Enzo - Gallagher??? - Caicedo???
Madueke ------- Nkunku ----------- Mudryk

I don't get it.. They need to sign 4-5 players.. Who are they linked to other than Caicedo?
Colwill should start in center back position. He is one of the best in the world. He is a complete defender.

If there is any stats for defenders he will be leading in many aspects against world's best.

Him and fofana my choice of starters. Badiashile and silva as rotational options. If we deploy three man defense then silva/badiashile should play in central defender and either side fofana and colwill.

Defense wont be a problem for us with proper cover for both full backs if we sign caicedo we looked set for midfield as well.

Attack will be okay as long as our full backs chip in goals here and there.

If we starts season well then top 5 wont be a problem for us in my opinion.
 
Colwill should start in center back position. He is one of the best in the world. He is a complete defender.

If there is any stats for defenders he will be leading in many aspects against world's best.

Colwil had a good season, but this is getting a bit undigestable at this point.
 
Your squad is so convoluted that it's hard to tell what's happening.

As it stands right now which players do you see as your most important and which positions do you hope you sign players in? (Other than striker as I think that's fairly obvious)
This is a good watch and will explain whats happening and where the holes are:

 
Colwill should start in center back position. He is one of the best in the world. He is a complete defender.

If there is any stats for defenders he will be leading in many aspects against world's best.

Him and fofana my choice of starters. Badiashile and silva as rotational options. If we deploy three man defense then silva/badiashile should play in central defender and either side fofana and colwill.

Defense wont be a problem for us with proper cover for both full backs if we sign caicedo we looked set for midfield as well.

Attack will be okay as long as our full backs chip in goals here and there.

If we starts season well then top 5 wont be a problem for us in my opinion.
:lol:
 
His plan seems to involve selling any decent-good players they have and replace it with decent-good players from abroad.
 
What's their starting XI likely to be?

--------------------Kepa
James - Fofana - Badiashile - Chilwell
------Enzo - Gallagher??? - Caicedo???
Madueke ------- Nkunku ----------- Mudryk

I don't get it.. They need to sign 4-5 players.. Who are they linked to other than Caicedo?

Chelsea have had so many comings and goings I wasn't really clear on who they even had, but looking at that team it feels pretty underwhelming. It is at least a fairly young and athletic team that could suit Pochettino. I guess the hope is that he makes them more than the sum of the parts? For a team that spent £600m or whatever last season there are a lot of holes. I guess they'll be spending some more.
 
Colwil had a good season, but this is getting a bit undigestable at this point.
I remember some of us said the same about Reece James from day one and got similar reactions.

Although the poster probably has got a bit carried away at this stage Colwill is going to the very top barring serious injury.
 
Chelsea have had so many comings and goings I wasn't really clear on who they even had, but looking at that team it feels pretty underwhelming. It is at least a fairly young and athletic team that could suit Pochettino. I guess the hope is that he makes them more than the sum of the parts? For a team that spent £600m or whatever last season there are a lot of holes. I guess they'll be spending some more.
In theory yes we looked like below par team with last season performances from new recruits.

But the experienced members of that team like kovasic,havertz and mount all were gone to higher positioned teams despite performed pretty badly individually.

Last season a total disaster for whole team. Its not wise to judge players from last season performances alone. We wont give up on new recruits this much soon considering injury issues and changes club gone through from board level to coaches level. Sterling,gallagher,mudryk,madueke,chukwuemeka, all are capable of very good players.

Under performers and ageing injury proned players shifted out. Pochettino have clean slate of the squad with all those sulking players gone. We are looking forward to the new season with plenty of positivity.
 
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Never seen a squad like this.

Reminds me of when Spurs sold all of Keane, Berbatov and Defoe in a six month period and replaced them with likes of Gio Dos Santos and Frazier Campbell.

Started the season barely able to score a goal.

Chelsea overflowing with CBs (Levi Colwill will probably be the next to leave) and endless front three players but barely got a CM on the books now beyond Enzo Fernandez.

Certainly if I was Conor Gallagher there's no way I'd be leaving if West Ham show credible interest, as things stand he's starting every single game so worth waiting it out until end of August.

Chelsea in that tricky perception now of having to pay big prices to get in some top CMs and yet the press and other fans will be all over them saying they're signing endless players with no logic etc.
 
Chelsea overflowing with CBs (Levi Colwill will probably be the next to leave) and endless front three players but barely got a CM on the books now beyond Enzo


How are we overflowing with CBs? It’s the same number as last season. One in and one out in Koulibaly and Colwill. Five CBs where one of them is 38 years old likely going into his final season with us and one is a utility squad player who can cover LB and DM.

I find it funny that people look at the squad composition in the middle of a firesale in early July and say that’s a crazy looking squad. We’ve let go of 5 midfielders. We’ve done the selling. We’ve not got to the buying yet. Clearly were bringing in at least 2, whilst giving more important roles to players like Chuku. The work isn’t done yet, it makes little sense to make any kind of judgement before the selling and buying is complete.
 
So far we know their new owners can sell. That’s it. Performances on the pitch have been mid table since the take over.
It also seems with the exception of a couple of players their new owners want “their” team so next time they win something meaningful full credit can go to them and not any to the old regime.
 
How are we overflowing with CBs? It’s the same number as last season. One in and one out in Koulibaly and Colwill. Five CBs where one of them is 38 years old likely going into his final season with us and one is a utility squad player who can cover LB and DM.

I find it funny that people look at the squad composition in the middle of a firesale in early July and say that’s a crazy looking squad. We’ve let go of 5 midfielders. We’ve done the selling. We’ve not got to the buying yet. Clearly were bringing in at least 2, whilst giving more important roles to players like Chuku. The work isn’t done yet, it makes little sense to make any kind of judgement before the selling and buying is complete.

I counted Cucerella by accident. :D

Chelsea 0-2 Aston Villa: Unai Emery's side earn composed win - BBC Sport
 

Ah gotcha but in that same game Reece James was also part of the back 3 but you wouldn't consider him a CB? ;)

I think overall, there are a million moving pieces at the same time and it's difficult to have a clear idea of what the starting eleven and the overall squad will look like come the first game of the season, even as fan of the club who is following all the daily updates.

Chelsea in that tricky perception now of having to pay big prices to get in some top CMs and yet the press and other fans will be all over them saying they're signing endless players with no logic etc.


You're spot on about this though :lol:
 


Jackson confirmed, sort of

Edit: There we go

 
Another eight year deal. From the Woodward school of "maintaining player value".
 
"Still can't score"?

I guess you're right, zero goals for over a month now.
Has your forward line improved over recently or something? Failing to put the ball in the back of the net was an issue under multiple managers last season, don't see how that's improved lately.
 
Has your forward line improved over recently or something? Failing to put the ball in the back of the net was an issue under multiple managers last season, don't see how that's improved lately.
On paper we added about 50/60 goals last year (by bringing in Sterling and Auba) and look how that ended.

First thing is to get a proper system and structure into the team and the rest will take care of itself.