Bluemoon goes into Meltdown

They have a knack of folding against sides that press. The number of times they've been battered into submission in the last two years is staggering.
For a big side, the have no bottle for a physical duel.
 
This is what you get with a team full of Mercenaries that don't and won't ever give a shite about City. As long as they get their pay check they will be happy.
 
Kompany will start next season as a 30yr old
Toure if still there will be 33
Silva hit 30 earlier this year.
Aguero is injured often

Their impact players have questions

I remember writing a lot on here at the start of the season that they were going to be the ones to struggle this season because for all the hype over their signings - De Bruyne, Sterling and Otamendi - they'd failed to address their overwhelming problem, an ageing spine that is injury-prone, already past its peak and only going further downhill. That's Aguero, Silva, Toure and Kompany, a faultline right down the middle of the pitch. Then I spent most of the season feeling a bit silly about it because Chelsea were the ones who horribly collapsed whereas City looked really strong, with Aguero indomitable as ever at times and De Bruyne starting so well.

But those are definitely the problems causing this on-off form, even if it has taken a while to really set in. I said that the one thing they really needed to do to head off this issue was put all their transfer season eggs in one important basket: replacing Touré with Vidal, Pogba, or at least something close to that sort of quality. Touré is ahead of the curve compared to those other players I mentioned, and he's the one that really costs them because even in his prime he was a luxury who probably quietly weakened them almost as much as he loudly strengthened them. Drafting in someone like Vidal would have shown up just how little contribution Touré makes over the course of 90 minutes. It would have been like adding a whole extra box-to-box midfielder on top of Touré.

If they want to start addressing this problem before it really hurts them, then Guardiola's first priority in the summer needs to be to get Pogba on board, which should be perfectly within his power. Then they won't have to ask already somewhat average players like Fernandinho and Fernando to do twice as much work as normal to cover for Touré.

I've said this a lot of times, but I truly believe they have a bigger rebuild job on their hands than we do.
All their best players are over 30, injury prone or both.
 
Man City
Premier League games: 27
FA Cup games: 3
League Cup games: 6
European games: 7

43 games this season

Man United
Premier League games: 28
FA Cup games: 3
League Cup games: 2
European games: 10

43 games this season

So unless I'm mistaken we've had the same amount of games.
 
This is what you get with a team full of Mercenaries that don't and won't ever give a shite about City. As long as they get their pay check they will be happy.

United wage bill - £203m
Man City wage bill - £193.5m

I must have missed the news that all United players play for their undying love for the club and are happy to accept a modest wage in return for this.
 
£202m of that is Rooney's though.
 
United wage bill - £203m
Man City wage bill - £193.5m

I must have missed the news that all United players play for their undying love for the club and are happy to accept a modest wage in return for this.
We shipped a lot of high earners form last season, so I would be surprised if our wage bill for this season is still higher.
I agree with your general point though. The mercenary tag doesn't wash.
 
I've said this a lot of times, but I truly believe they have a bigger rebuild job on their hands than we do.
All their best players are over 30, injury prone or both.
People forget we have a very good team when fully fit;

DDG
Darmain
Smalling
Rojo
Shaw

Schweinsteiger
Schneiderlin
Herrera

Memphis
Martial
Mata

With plenty of option of rotation. The players we're building our core around will be DDG, Smalling, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Memphis and Martial and to some extent Darmian, Herrera and Mata too. We have a younger team when fit with plenty of talented youths to fill the gaps for us when we have injuries. Compare that to City whose midfield and defence are either aging or not up to the required standard anymore and I feel much more confident than there's less work for us to be done than for them.
 
We shipped a lot of high earners form last season, so I would be surprised if our wage bill for this season is still higher.
I agree with your general point though. The mercenary tag doesn't wash.
I think Schweinsteiger earns 250k+-.
 
No chance City have had more injuries than United this season. Even right now, they only have 4 players out injured. We have 11, two of those have missed almost the entire season, and Rojo has missed the majority of it.

I can't remember City not even being able to fill the subs bench like we couldn't as we had players injured in the warm-up and no one in reserve. I can't remember City ever having 6 academy graduates and a goalkeeper on the bench, excluding the FA Cup game against Chelsea, though players were rested through choice, not unavailability. We've had 12 different players play fullback alone this season due to injuries, and then the stand-ins getting injured.
 

City's record against the current top 8.

Played: 11
Wins: 0
Draws: 3
Losses: 8



Pretty poor stuff.

:eek:
I couldn't believe that.

http://www.skysports.ie/manchester-city-results
He actually has a point. They've been just below being good enough. Never crap enough to warrant outrage. It doesn't help that bigger clubs with more fans have been having weirder seasons (e.g. Chelsea, United) and underdogs have been doing well. City's poor results have been going under the radar for everyone else it seems.
 
People forget we have a very good team when fully fit;

DDG
Darmain
Smalling
Rojo
Shaw

Schweinsteiger
Schneiderlin
Herrera

Memphis
Martial
Mata

With plenty of option of rotation. The players we're building our core around will be DDG, Smalling, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Memphis and Martial and to some extent Darmian, Herrera and Mata too. We have a younger team when fit with plenty of talented youths to fill the gaps for us when we have injuries. Compare that to City whose midfield and defence are either aging or not up to the required standard anymore and I feel much more confident than there's less work for us to be done than for them.

Yep I agree,
They've spent £60m+ on 2 CB's and will likely spend another £40m+ on Stones.
They need fullbacks in both positions.
Most of their midfield needs gutting. Fernando just isn't good enough for what they want to achieve. Toure will be 33 at the start of next season, Fernandinho is a good utility option but not much more than that. Fabian Delph is really not going to do much more than fill out a quota spot.
Then they've still got Nasri & Navas who should be moved on. Silva needs competition to be eased out, and they really need to find a goal scorer for the times when Aguero is injured. Bony & Iheanacho aren't going to win you CL's in his absence.

Finding all of those players in 1 transfer window is tough, securing them will be tough, especially when United, Chelsea, Arsenal & other clubs in Europe will be in the same markets.

The pull of Pep wont work on every player.
 
Biggest legend at the club a knob head musician..

:lol:

I can't get my head around it. Every time they need to trot someone out, to represent the club, it's him!!

Him and fecking Summerbee were in the dressing room on Sunday, celebrating the league cup win.....The feck is Gallagher doing there?!

I love the fact that their equivalent of "Glory, glory Man United" is just any Oasis song. :lol:
 
I think Pellegrini just gaved up after they told eveybody that he is off in the summer and that Pep is coming. Big mistake from City.

That was a bad decision to announce Pep will take over. Such a crucial point in the season. Now no one is motivated. Not even the manager. They are becoming a circus just like Madrid. Pellegrini was doing a fine job for them given how competitive the PL has gotten these past few seasons. You give him the chop and announce someone else right when the title race is heating up. Now I don't think even he is motivated. I hope his parting gift to Pep is the Europa League. That would be hilarious!
I remember saying this at the time, it'd be hilarious if the big song and dance they made about Pep de-railed their season. The bitters on my facebook feed were all on about doing the quad in december, now it's looking very different.
 
United wage bill - £203m
Man City wage bill - £193.5m

I must have missed the news that all United players play for their undying love for the club and are happy to accept a modest wage in return for this.
source please. I think thats bollocks considering we shipped out some of our biggest wages. Please explain how players like silva, Aguero, Toure are coming to city for anything other than money.
 
That was a bad decision to announce Pep will take over. Such a crucial point in the season. Now no one is motivated. Not even the manager. They are becoming a circus just like Madrid. Pellegrini was doing a fine job for them given how competitive the PL has gotten these past few seasons. You give him the chop and announce someone else right when the title race is heating up. Now I don't think even he is motivated. I hope his parting gift to Pep is the Europa League. That would be hilarious!
Yeah, that would be the ultimate in irony: they announce Pep who is going to win the the CL and he finds himself not even in it.
 
United wage bill - £203m
Man City wage bill - £193.5m

I must have missed the news that all United players play for their undying love for the club and are happy to accept a modest wage in return for this.

To be fair it helps that 10% of City's wage bill has been put on the books of your holding company to artificially lower the clubs wage bill.

It also helps that those figures will almost certainly have changed favourably for United since then, with City adding somewhere in the region of £30m with their summer signings whilst United's you'd expect to have dropped quite a bit.

Not that it's particularly relevant. Money is king now which ever club you play for.
 
Seriously starting to think Pep is in for a rude awakening next season.
 
Seriously what is up with their EDS squad? Don't the papers keep reporting how their academy puts ours to shame? Iheanacho seems to be the only player they have any confidence in.
 
Now they say it's just the u-16s and such, "won't see the results for years...."
Basically because all of the academy players recently promoted by us have been very good. The media usually never think they'll get caught up in their lies so they're panicking now as they really have no clue and have probably never watched an academy game in their life.
 
Seriously starting to think Pep is in for a rude awakening next season.

Let's hope so. I'm sick of the love-in he's getting as some modern footballing visionary.

But yes its mostly because I'm bitter he snubbed us for massives.
 
Can someone tell me who is in charge of the Man City signings? Is it the two ex Barcelona gimps?

Besides De Bruyne, I can't seem to think of another very good signing they made in the last four years. They relying on all the signings Mancini made as key players.
 
I'm from Mumbai apparently:

Love it how these massive reds come out the woodwork now they're level with us. Really is quite funny. And a special mention to our resident curtain twitcher Mrs VanGaalEra, our little flower from Mumbai must be in his element after months of not being able to quote our posts....go on flower, knock yourself out. He must live by a river because come match day he's always complaining about a shit stream.....ha ha ha sometimes I like laughing at my own humour.
 
Can't believe how bad Otamendi has been. I mean, we had gifs of him tackling Messi and everything
His tackling has still been on point. He was great in the first derby against us. Its his other area, mainly his positioning and sometimes decision making that is the problem. If you make a highlights of his season it would look pretty impressive but it masks his other areas. He's the same defender doing the same things. Just in a different setup that does not cover his weaknesses.
 
Bit rich of them to be claiming injuries.

No chance City have had more injuries than United this season. Even right now, they only have 4 players out injured. We have 11, two of those have missed almost the entire season, and Rojo has missed the majority of it.

I can't remember City not even being able to fill the subs bench like we couldn't as we had players injured in the warm-up and no one in reserve. I can't remember City ever having 6 academy graduates and a goalkeeper on the bench, excluding the FA Cup game against Chelsea, though players were rested through choice, not unavailability. We've had 12 different players play fullback alone this season due to injuries, and then the stand-ins getting injured.

I'm sure I recall reading elsewhere that City have suffered a greater number of individual injuries than us this season. I think the total number of days out wasn't as big, but they're had their fair share. Can't be used as an excuse though really, considering we're closing the gap with a far worse current situation.

Yep I agree,
They've spent £60m+ on 2 CB's and will likely spend another £40m+ on Stones.
They need fullbacks in both positions.
Most of their midfield needs gutting. Fernando just isn't good enough for what they want to achieve. Toure will be 33 at the start of next season, Fernandinho is a good utility option but not much more than that. Fabian Delph is really not going to do much more than fill out a quota spot.
Then they've still got Nasri & Navas who should be moved on. Silva needs competition to be eased out, and they really need to find a goal scorer for the times when Aguero is injured. Bony & Iheanacho aren't going to win you CL's in his absence.

Finding all of those players in 1 transfer window is tough, securing them will be tough, especially when United, Chelsea, Arsenal & other clubs in Europe will be in the same markets.

The pull of Pep wont work on every player.

Delph could be a really good player if they actually use him properly. Maybe not top class but he could certainly do a good enough job against most Premiership teams. He's a really good player.

As for Iheanacho, he looks a proper talent. Agree, though, that they need someone better to deputise for Aguero when he's injured. Problem is that Mancini tried to keep lots of strikers happy and it just doesn't work - players that are good enough to start won't settle for 20 games a season.

source please. I think thats bollocks considering we shipped out some of our biggest wages. Please explain how players like silva, Aguero, Toure are coming to city for anything other than money.

It's a pretty sure bet that's why they came in the first place but I think they all have a pretty strong affinity for the club now. As said, we're in a very similar position ourselves in terms of attracting top talent so let's not go throwing too many stones...
 
His tackling has still been on point. He was great in the first derby against us. Its his other area, mainly his positioning and sometimes decision making that is the problem. If you make a highlights of his season it would look pretty impressive but it masks his other areas. He's the same defender doing the same things. Just in a different setup that does not cover his weaknesses.

Personally I think his tackling is awful. I'm sure he wins a lot but he tries to win everything. Constantly sliding into challenges and taking himself out of the game.