Bluemoon goes into Meltdown
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Yeah he actually deserves credit for keeping it in the right thread.A wee meltdown. City fan in the Bluemoon meltdown thread.
Very appropriate.
My mate cares about Man City. He doesn't support them or hate them but my god does he care about them
Well actually I am with Ronette on that. It is the case that if many people love (eg.) cats, they do care about them even though they do not hate them.
In the abstract it is certainly true that not-hating does not equal not-caring-about.
You're sounding more and more like Alan Green? Is it you Alan?
Obviously not. But you can't say anything at all about the remaining 92 % and how they feel about City. Although it's safe to assume that some of the ones voting for United are City fans.
ffs
But we're talking about a football club here. If you love the club (Man City) then it's extremely likely you support them - so obviously you'd care. No one here is claiming those that love Man City don't care about them. The ones that don't love or hate are indifferent and if you don't care about something, you're usually indifferent. In all likely hood, you aren't gonna love Man City and support Notts County.
As amusing as the irony is in all this, knock off the insults.
What made me laugh is when he showed such a high percentage hating United and then said why do you think that is?
Purely because we've been successful.
Why would a City fan use that to try to justify themselves.
Purely because we've been successful.
Why would a City fan use that to try to justify themselves.
It does prove that 42% give a shit enough about United to hate on them. And that hate is because we're the biggest and most successful in England. Clearly this is the point.
In addition, seeing that massive, new money being lavished on a club who then win the title normally leads to a lot of hate (Chelsea for example) I'd say a reading of only 6% does say it all. It would probably be a similar kind of reading for Blackburn at their pomp.
No one cares about man city
Ronetta - Well look how many people care about United to have them as their number 1 most hated team!!!
Bloody hell
Ronetta - Well look how many people care about United to have them as their number 1 most hated team!!!
Bloody hell
What do I need to do to show I care about a team?
Hang on.
So Ronette has concluded that because as per that poll only 5% of people hate City that means that the rest of the people care about City because they love them?
The fact he's arguing City are actually a well supported club is as insane as anything else he hass said in this thread.
So Ronette has concluded that because as per that poll only 5% of people hate City that means that the rest of the people care about City because they love them?
The fact he's arguing City are actually a well supported club is as insane as anything else he hass said in this thread.
Indeed. Which is why I wondered if Ronetta was talking about the care-for meaning of care-about.
Although it has been spectacularly unclarified by that poster, if the opinion of 92% is unclear re City but only 60-odd% of fans don't hate us then it is theoretically possible that more care for them. It doesn't really carry any degree of necessity though.
And the abus may be outnumbered by hard-core Utd fans anyway. Excluding them means thinking about neutral fans... And defining that so it doesn't rule out haters... Horrible problems ensue for what is a pretty silly topic anyway.
You have to leave it out in the sun for a while, if it melts then it's ice cream.
^ He said it
Ugh I didn't even know this place existed until this (Bluemoon) thread popped up. Is there, anywhere in the world a larger congregation of complete feckwits ever?
Give me RAWK any day over that place, those people are disgusting.
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Well certainly that is the valid viewpoint advanced in rebuttal of the poll's original employment. But we all got that. It is trying to understand the mystery of Ronetta's intention that intrigues me though.
Yeah, RAWK is full of saints compared to Bluemoon. A truly vile bunch of scumbags.
Maybe if City had some kind of identity, they'd have a tad more notoriety. I "care" about Dortmund because of how well they are run, i love their football and i feel bad that they lose their best players. I "care" for Atletico for breaking the stranglehold Real and Barca had in La Liga last year. I "care" for teams that are run well and/or are good, historic clubs such as Everton and Newcastle. You have an opinion on a club if it has some form of notoriety in the footballing world. But City? Well, er...they're one of those oil clubs aren't they? That's basically what they're known for. Even more so when you consider barely anyone outside England had heard of them before 2008.
He may be desperately trying to back pedal now, but he was originally saying 'Ok, maybe no one gives a shit about us, but at least we're not hated – and here's the link'. So yes he did mess it up for himself.
A wee meltdown. City fan in the Bluemoon meltdown thread.
Very appropriate.
'Bluemoon goes into meltdown' goes into meltdown
Ronetta said City are at their worst against teams that park the bus, I said they are even more terrible against teams that control the ball and tempo of the game. United control the ball and tempo of the game, we do play in the same style of Barcelona considering we have a manager who actually worked there and is credited for laying some foundation. Glad I made the comment considering the fall out .
.It's weird. The only thing that article "proves" (I use that word very lightly) is that at least some 40% of a pretty vaguely described group of people care enough about United to hate them. Which is what Ronetta, in completely bizarre fashion, used to counter the sentiment that people don't care about City. And then proceeded to call people dimwits on the basis that they considered this a self defeating argument.
I think there was a non-recognition of the whole, you have to care about something to hate it angle that made him(?) use the post in the first place.
This is true. If the success is manufactured people find it a turn off. Even now Chelsea struggle in terms of fans because of it.
On the other hand with a club like Southampton it does make you respect them – especially as their youth system is a the centre of everything.
But Ronetta will tell you that they're a working class club...
(also worth revisiting the excellent explanation for the empty seats)78.7% of the poll entries were actually random, caused by ice cream dripping onto keyboards.
@Ronetta . Don't let all this piss you off. It's still good to have you here.
Hopefully it will be even better by Monday.
Hopefully it will be even better by Monday.
They still havent. I was talking to someone in Wales the other day who thought when people said Manchester City they were differentiating the city from the football club. As in, Manchester the city, not Manchester United the football club.
This guy thought, when City had won the league, that maybe Manchester had won the European Capital of Culture, or some other prestigious award for cities.
I don't often venture into this thread. It was worth it today.
Newcastle haven't won a league title since 1927 and an FA Cup since 1955. They have no European honours. If you had respect for the history of a club like Newcastle then you should be able to respect the history of City pre-2008.
Success full stop breeds resentment and we're a classic example of that but yeh manufactured success just leaves people feeling a bit well, so what? City's identity in an historical sense is dead and buried. The ambivalence about them is as a result of the fact that they are effectively a new club and one that bears little relation to what went before. It's kind of like the difference between the old Labour party and the new one. Same name, same colours but two very different things. Michael Schindler's Manchester City Ruined My Life is a good read on all this
And Chelsea never did have a big fanbase. Just goes to show doesn't it that mass appeal isn't just predicated on success.
They're a good club though, i'm not talking in terms of success. City are the current league champions, but i still feel nothing towards them.
Is that genuine?
For a second, I thought that read 'Michael Schumacher's Manchester City Ruined My Life'.