Bluemoon goes into Meltdown

[Paolo Di Canio]

Stop. Think about what you're typing.

City are paying his wages. That money is going to NYCFC and out of City's accounts. That will show up on our records. It is the same as any other loan deal. UEFA do actually have rules in place to prevent what you are accusing City of. It is a ridiculous theory.

For all this to be true, one factor you have to assume is that New York Yankees are complicit in City's scheme. Would they invest $20 million to help City avoid FFP regulations?

What im trying to tell you is that Manchester City and NYCFC are two different entities run by the same owners, do you think that Agueros wages shows up on NYCFC's balance sheet? Or assests such as the rent for yankee stadium shows up on Citys balance sheet? two seperate companies much like Watford and Udinese whos operations financially do not cross, have there own income and expenditure but is bank rolled by the same person.

In that case do you think Wayne Rooneys wages say Manchester United or First Allied Corporation? the holding company that owns Tampa Bay Bucaneers and Man United? and when United present its accounts to UEFA do you think we show the expenditure of Tampa Bay in them?

much like your holding company is City Football Group who run Melbourne city and Yokohama etc, all companies that are linked to the same holding company, have there own sources of income and expenditure, only the balance sheet of Manchester City is presented to UEFA not City Football Group, who are directly paying Franks wages through the company NYCFC

Not coming out of Manchester citys accounts, coming out of City Football Groups accounts, your holding company, the Yankees are in it to make money much like your owners or any joint venture, but by solidifying its main asset in the mean time, two birds with one condom, smart

 

[.Rossi]

Definitely up there with the best posts I've seen in my time on this forum. Well done mate.

I won't lie, I was trying to get someone to bite

I stand by what I said in the matchday forum....Abysmal today and it's shocking how they can't floor teams like Everton, who were also awful

 

[gooDevil]

Shame they got 3 points from that dross. Horrible ref!

 

[BobbyManc]

What im trying to tell you is that Manchester City and NYCFC are two different entities run by the same owners, do you think that Agueros wages shows up on NYCFC's balance sheet? Or assests such as the rent for yankee stadium shows up on Citys balance sheet? two seperate companies much like Watford and Udinese whos operations financially do not cross, have there own income and expenditure but is bank rolled by the same person.

In that case do you think Wayne Rooneys wages say Manchester United or First Allied Corporation? the holding company that owns Tampa Bay Bucaneers and Man United? and when United present its accounts to UEFA do you think we show the expenditure of Tampa Bay in them?

much like your holding company is City Football Group who run Melbourne city and Yokohama etc, all companies that are linked to the same holding company, have there own sources of income and expenditure, only the balance sheet of Manchester City is presented to UEFA not City Football Group, who are directly paying Franks wages through the company NYCFC

Not coming out of Manchester citys accounts, coming out of City Football Groups accounts, your holding company, the Yankees are in it to make money much like your owners or any joint venture, but by solidifying its main asset in the mean time, two birds with one condom, smart

I'll try one last time to explain this. Each week, money goes out of City's accounts to pay Lampard's wages. Just in the same way they will do for Silva, Aguero, Kompany etc. That is expenditure of Manchester City Football Club. That money, whether it is paid directly to NYCFC or Lampard, is going to be taken into account for FFP calculations. UEFA have rules in place to prevent what you are accusing City of.

 

[BobbyManc]

I won't lie, I was trying to get someone to bite

I stand by what I said in the matchday forum....Abysmal today and it's shocking how they can't floor teams like Everton, who were also awful

Yeah, it was obvious you were fishing, but you still must have had some conviction behind what you posted.

Your wages and squad cost is currently higher than City's. It's just as apt to say it's shocking how poorly you performed last season or to say how poorly you have performed at times this season.

The only shocking thing is people still expect teams like City to be annihilating teams like Everton week in week out. Football doesn't work like that. We've won the league twice in the last 3 seasons. If City are as dreadful as you make out, I would love to hear how you rate Chelsea, United, Arsenal etc.

 

[.Rossi]

Yeah, it was obvious you were fishing, but you still must have had some conviction behind what you posted.

Your wages and squad cost is currently higher than City's. It's just as apt to say it's shocking how poorly you performed last season or to say how poorly you have performed at times this season.

The only shocking thing is people still expect teams like City to be annihilating teams like Everton week in week out. Football doesn't work like that. We've won the league twice in the last 3 seasons. If City are as dreadful as you make out, I would love to hear how you rate Chelsea, United, Arsenal etc.

You're right....While my original post was fishing and "light hearted" the bottom line is, you should be doing a lot better.
Everton were awful today and a team of your caliber should be putting them away, however, it took a dodgy penalty and a world class save to get you the win.

Chelsea, they look a proper unit. A proper team. Solid everywhere.
United, jury is still out for me. Although, we're doing a lot better then I thought we would.
Arsenal, are you really asking me that question? I mean, really?

With the talent City have, and seen as most of them players have had about 3 solid seasons together, they should be performing a lot better on the pitch but, as it stands, it's not like that. And it is quite shocking in a way.

 

[BobbyManc]

You're right....While my original post was fishing and "light hearted" the bottom line is, you should be doing a lot better.
Everton were awful today and a team of your caliber should be putting them away, however, it took a dodgy penalty and a world class save to get you the win.

Chelsea, they look a proper unit. A proper team. Solid everywhere.
United, jury is still out for me. Although, we're doing a lot better then I thought we would.
Arsenal, are you really asking me that question? I mean, really?

With the talent City have, and seen as most of them players have had about 3 solid seasons together, they should be performing a lot better on the pitch but, as it stands, it's not like that. And it is quite shocking in a way.

Chelsea look a proper unit yet are only 3 points ahead of City and finished 3rd last season? Ok. There's hardly a world of difference between the sides this season, and the fact we've performed poorly by our standards yet remained within touching distance speak volumes about the capabilities of the squad.

You're ignoring the fact in the last fortnight we've gone to Southampton and Sunderland, two tricky places to go to, and won convincingly at both. One sloppy game at Everton today and we still won. Isn't that the sign of champions? I certainly had to put up with the claim whenever United won any scrappy games. Losing Aguero, on current form easily the best player in the league, within 2 minutes and replacing him with an inexperienced 18 year old undeniably hindered City. It's also come after two away trips, as I've mentioned. The big teams were sloppy today likely as a result of the schedule and dropped points, yet City didn't. That's a huge positive and it's very harsh to use today as an example of City's under-performing as you view it.

 

[thepolice123]

Any update on Aguero's injury? Would be a shame if we wouldn't get to see him for the rest of the season.

 

[Sassy Colin]

Not much Bluemoon melting down going on here.

 

[Mrs Smoker]

Any update on Aguero's injury? Would be a shame if we wouldn't get to see him for the rest of the season.

Well, there's always Youtube.

 

[Tyrion]

Not much Bluemoon melting down going on here.

I looked a little and the closest I found to any meltdowns was on their "Can Sergio Reach Ballon d'or Heights" thread.

He already has. Will he get it? No. Because Platini and co hate us.

I don't think it really matters what he does in the league. It is decided on how players do in the cartel cup and for their national team, especially if there is a tournament in that year

messi or ronaldo because of who they play for, it's the way it is, bit like the eurovision song farce

He's our Ballon d'Or.

Bollox to everyone else.

And then when he got injured....

I blame this thread and op is a witch .

I don't get their ongoing hate for the CL. Surely it's not just bitterness because they haven't done well in it yet?

Cos that would be crazy...

 

[DatIrishFella]

I looked a little and the closest I found to any meltdowns was on their "Can Sergio Reach Ballon d'or Heights" thread.









And then when he got injured....



I don't get their ongoing hate for the CL. Surely it's not just bitterness because they haven't done well in it yet?

Cos that would be crazy...

3:30 in. Seems to be a Citeh thing. For whatever reason.

 

[Kraftwerker]

Cartel Cup

 

[Revan]

Cos that would be crazy...

It goes well with Bluemoon, then.

 

[LR7]

Any update on Aguero's injury? Would be a shame if we wouldn't get to see him for the rest of the season.

I'd find a way to cope.

 

[Red Dreams]

Chelsea look a proper unit yet are only 3 points ahead of City and finished 3rd last season? Ok. There's hardly a world of difference between the sides this season, and the fact we've performed poorly by our standards yet remained within touching distance speak volumes about the capabilities of the squad.

You're ignoring the fact in the last fortnight we've gone to Southampton and Sunderland, two tricky places to go to, and won convincingly at both. One sloppy game at Everton today and we still won. Isn't that the sign of champions? I certainly had to put up with the claim whenever United won any scrappy games. Losing Aguero, on current form easily the best player in the league, within 2 minutes and replacing him with an inexperienced 18 year old undeniably hindered City. It's also come after two away trips, as I've mentioned. The big teams were sloppy today likely as a result of the schedule and dropped points, yet City didn't. That's a huge positive and it's very harsh to use today as an example of City's under-performing as you view it.

good post.

I dont think City are a one man team. Losing Aguero will hurt, but I think by an large you have an excellent chance. All the top teams will wobble...and there are lots of points to play for.

 

[Ruht]

I looked a little and the closest I found to any meltdowns was on their "Can Sergio Reach Ballon d'or Heights" thread.









And then when he got injured....



I don't get their ongoing hate for the CL. Surely it's not just bitterness because they haven't done well in it yet?

Cos that would be crazy...

I knew there was a reason as to why Messi and Ronaldo keep winning the Ballon D'or but never quite understood it. Now I know it's only because of who they play for! Thank feck for that.

 

[Tyrion]

It goes well with Bluemoon, then.

I said it would be crazy. I never said it was unlikely.
I've seen that theory of theirs before on this thread. I don't know where it came from tbh. I was suprised that Agent Gill wasn't mentioned as being the reason he is also the Machiavellian mind beind FFP according to them.

 

[Tyrion]

3:30 in. Seems to be a Citeh thing. For whatever reason.

Gallagher thinks that way too? This goes right to the top!

I found it funny that he believed that the players got apathetic about the CL after the fans did as opposed to them never doing well in the competition at all. Let's face it, if they won it this year, they'd become the greatest footballing dynasty to ever exist and the CL would be the true test of a team. They'd walk around in full kit with flags saying European Champs for years afterwards.

 

[Rolandofgilead]

One out of two players. Great sample size there. Really tells you a lot.

City are paying the wages. It doesn't make any difference regards FFP whether he is contracted to NYCFC or City because at the end of each month whatever he earns is going to show up on City's accounts, and not NYCFC's.

It's just daft to think the best method City's owners could come up with to get round FFP was to establish an MLS team at significant costs that can only really attract big names with their peak years way behind them. I'll happily bet in the future City very rarely loan any designated players from NYCFC, and if we do, we will have to pay their wages.

No UEFA rules are being circumnavigated. City are paying his wages. If we weren't, at least your theory would have some credence. But as it stands, it's an insane theory.

It isn't, the best scam they've come up with so far is extending the ground you already don't fill.

Stadiums are taken into account I believe when declaring losses, plus you can still only manage to half fill the ground but declare an extra 10 thousand paying punters, it's genius. Plus I'm sure there must be some kind of empty blue seat allowance.

 

[BobbyManc]

It isn't, the best scam they've come up with so far is extending the ground you already don't fill.

Stadiums are taken into account I believe when declaring losses, plus you can still only manage to half fill the ground but declare an extra 10 thousand paying punters, it's genius. Plus I'm sure there must be some kind of empty blue seat allowance.

Hilarious. I'm sure you can do better than that.

 

[Rolandofgilead]

Hilarious. I'm sure you can do better than that.

Probably but it's late.

 

[gooDevil]

Plus no one likes you guys.

You all smell of sandwiches.

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

From their post match thread:

200 pages, 6 bannings and 4 server reboots....

Fair play to him, that's actually quite funny reminds me a bit of our matchday threads of late.

 

[Hernandez - BFA]

Yeah, this place has been horrible as of late so I probably won't poke fun at their fans.

 

[Trizy]

Yeah, this place has been horrible as of late so I probably won't poke fun at their fans.

In our defense we have being playing like shit the past since Villa.

 

[Hernandez - BFA]

In our defense we have being playing like shit the past since Villa.

Very true, but the reactions on here have been ridiculous by some Transfer a few of those quotes into here, and replace "By United fan" to "By City fan", and we'd be laughing our asses off.

 

[::sonny::]

 

[cesc's_mullet]

I have to say I was reading the post match thread on Bluemoon on the way home from work yesterday - they were very reasonable. TBH I've never seen anything outrageous on there, nor Spurs Forums come to think of it. Both have been surprisingly level-headed in my experience.

 

[Deleted member 78215]

I have to say I was reading the post match thread on Bluemoon on the way home from work yesterday - they were very reasonable. TBH I've never seen anything outrageous on there, nor Spurs Forums come to think of it. Both have been surprisingly level-headed in my experience.

You need to some of their United-related threads. They're like the Chernobyl of the Internet. Just terrible.

 

[Globule]

You need to some of their United-related threads. They're like the Chernobyl of the Internet. Just terrible.

Both Bluemoon and Rawk have a veil of nastiness and a sheen of bile whenever it comes to United, but that is to be expected when we're fierce rivals and they have no way to filter out the more childish elements. With Bluemoon though, they tend to be more sensible, particularly when it comes to their own club. Many of these fans would have pre-dated Mansour, so have some sense of perspective. Rawk, in comparison, is a police state where you can only avoid getting banned by reaffirming your undying, unquestioning commitment to Liverpool - the greatest club in the world - in every post. If you do question the club you become a target, and the only way of salvation is through means of poetry.

That's my view as an outsider anyway.

The Caf benefits from the Newbie system, which typically prevents some of the more radical posters from getting to the mains, but the matchday threads from the past couple of years show we're not completely immune to lapses in logic and reason.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

You need to some of their United-related threads. They're like the Chernobyl of the Internet. Just terrible.

You're spot on with this, there were some venomous half wits on that thing, some of the bile they spout at times is shocking.

 

[Kag]

I have to say I was reading the post match thread on Bluemoon on the way home from work yesterday - they were very reasonable. TBH I've never seen anything outrageous on there, nor Spurs Forums come to think of it. Both have been surprisingly level-headed in my experience.

Really? Bluemoon is the most vile sports forum on the internet.

 

[cesc's_mullet]

Really? Bluemoon is the most vile sports forum on the internet.

I haven't spent much time on there TBH, but the few times I was on there I honestly thought it was a decent forum. Maybe I'll suss it out a little further if I have time.

 

[Kag]

I haven't spent much time on there TBH, but the few times I was on there I honestly thought it was a decent forum. Maybe I'll suss it out a little further if I have time.

Get yourself over there and count how many times you read the word "rag." Double points if you find something about necking a pint the day Fergie pops it.

I actually find that the place slows down my browser. Wankers.

 

[BobbyManc]

I have to say I was reading the post match thread on Bluemoon on the way home from work yesterday - they were very reasonable. TBH I've never seen anything outrageous on there, nor Spurs Forums come to think of it. Both have been surprisingly level-headed in my experience.

Bluemoon is as good as most other forums normally. Like any other forum it has its people who love to make everything a crisis but generally its level-headed, as you say. It's only when it comes to discussing United that the place can become unbearable. There's only so many illiterate 'granny-shagging rooney rag bastrd' posts you can read before you just give up even attempting to read the sensible stuff.

 

[Archie Leach]

@cesc's_mullet is right, they were weirdly magnanimous. I think all their vitriol is generally saved for the 'rags'.

 

[Ruht]

Bluemoon is as good as most other forums normally. Like any other forum it has its people who love to make everything a crisis but generally its level-headed, as you say. It's only when it comes to discussing United that the place can become unbearable. There's only so many illiterate 'granny-shagging rooney rag bastrd' posts you can read before you just give up even attempting to read the sensible stuff.

To be fair, many of the posts in their Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea threads can also be unbearable. It's not just United with them!

 

[JamesB__]

Both Bluemoon and Rawk have a veil of nastiness and a sheen of bile whenever it comes to United, but that is to be expected when we're fierce rivals and they have no way to filter out the more childish elements. With Bluemoon though, they tend to be more sensible, particularly when it comes to their own club. Many of these fans would have pre-dated Mansour, so have some sense of perspective. Rawk, in comparison, is a police state where you can only avoid getting banned by reaffirming your undying, unquestioning commitment to Liverpool - the greatest club in the world - in every post. If you do question the club you become a target, and the only way of salvation is through means of poetry.

That's my view as an outsider anyway.

The Caf benefits from the Newbie system, which typically prevents some of the more radical posters from getting to the mains, but the matchday threads from the past couple of years show we're not completely immune to lapses in logic and reason.

 

[BobbyManc]

Both Bluemoon and Rawk have a veil of nastiness and a sheen of bile whenever it comes to United, but that is to be expected when we're fierce rivals and they have no way to filter out the more childish elements. With Bluemoon though, they tend to be more sensible, particularly when it comes to their own club. Many of these fans would have pre-dated Mansour, so have some sense of perspective. Rawk, in comparison, is a police state where you can only avoid getting banned by reaffirming your undying, unquestioning commitment to Liverpool - the greatest club in the world - in every post. If you do question the club you become a target, and the only way of salvation is through means of poetry.

That's my view as an outsider anyway.

The Caf benefits from the Newbie system, which typically prevents some of the more radical posters from getting to the mains, but the matchday threads from the past couple of years show we're not completely immune to lapses in logic and reason.

The issue is its spreading. On a New York City FC forum they had a thread dedicated solely to poetry about their new signing Mix Diskerud