Bluemoon goes into Meltdown

[Barney]

Football supporters overall are bit tribal in nature and very biased towards their own

Here's a prime example:

but you guys are leaders of all in doing so

I see you have started standing up for Man City/Bluemoon too with your multi quote replies. Are you the guy whose pic was posted last season here, the guy in City t-shirt of 'champions' but a Liverpool tattoo on leg?

You'd be able to tell it was me because I wouldn't be here if it was. I would still be out getting pissed right now in celebration.

 

[The Man Himself]

You'd be able to tell it was me because I wouldn't be here if it was. I would still be out getting pissed right now in celebration.

..for the CL atrocious show?

 

[Pat_Mustard]

The shitter they show themselves to be the more i dislike Chris Smalling.

I know the feeling. I generally forgive players very quickly for red cards, but I'm struggling to think of Smalling's gormless head without flashes of rage.

 

[.Rossi]

City, as a club, don't appear to be arsed about anything unless it involves United.

They didn't even look that happy about winning the league last season because we were nowhere near it.

They have no rivalry with anyone aside from us. There is no "plucky local club City, with all it's soul and proud local traditions, against that money filled, name whoring, monster across the road" anymore, so again, I'm sure their derby wins don't feel half as good as they did in the last decade.

All their Christmases came at once in May 2012.....Nothing will be ever as good for them again. Nothing! They serve no purpose now.

 

[Shark]

They're a putrid club. Literally nothing about them or the fan-base is in any way pleasant or redeeming. They don't offer anything to the game from a neutral perspective either.

 

[.Rossi]

They're a putrid club. Literally nothing about them or the fan-base is in any way pleasant or redeeming. They don't offer anything to the game from a neutral perspective either.

Their world has revolved around United for too long.....They don't have any connection with the game at this level.

 

[Jammydodger7]

I get the feeling a lot of them prefered when they were shit, it was a lot easier to be bitter, they can't say we're ruining the game anymore for example

 

[Shark]

Their world has revolved around United for too long.....They don't have any connection with the game at this level.

It's like trying to teach a man that's been living in a cave for 60 years how to build a computer. He's too far gone to learn, as are City and their fan-base.

 

[thegregster]

World Club Cup
by mancity dan » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:08 am

What is there to stop our owners and PSG's owners from organizing a World Club Cup (by invitation) where prize money is more than the Chumps League?

Invite some of the CL teams in and just feck off the CL.

We would not need to worry about FFP as we have to pass that to get it to the CL.

 

[Ducklegs]

The same thing that stops the rest of football from starting a league where these cnuts and the rest of the oil money plastics are not invited.

Honor, fair play, sportsmanship etc.

 

[matherto]

Somebody should show these fans how to do European nights, Old Trafford puts their place to shame in that sense. Always rocking back in the UCL days.

Yeah, I remember, a few years back, we were playing a dead rubber match against some team who I can't remember atm, and the atmosphere was fantastic that day. I believe about 70,000 were there that day. Fantastic stuff.

Simply untrue.

Old Trafford is always dead for CL group games, unless we're losing in which case we managed to rouse ourselves a bit (comebacks against Braga and Galatasaray in 12/13 I seem to remember being at). It's filled full of daytrippers and school kids on free tickets who's only contribution to the atmosphere is to countdown to half and full time, and the Stretty can barely be arsed. We can't get all high and mighty about it (though at least, it is usually 95% full). It was actually embarrassing against Gala with their mental fans not shutting up for 90 minutes screaming all sorts and all we had was school kids in the K stand to come up against them.

Obviously once we start playing proper teams in the knockout rounds it's incredible. The Madrid game was just about as good as a British atmosphere can be, outstanding that day and really matched the magnitude of the game.

 

[JPRouve]

The same thing that stops the rest of football from starting a league where these cnuts and the rest of the oil money plastics are not invited.

Honor, fair play, sportsmanship etc.

Nah, it's simpler than that, City and PSG would fail to win this competition, which will lead to even more embarrassment for their owners.

 

[The Man Himself]

What makes this guy think that the traditional big clubs will join them instead of "chump's league." How can they(City and PSG) "guarantee" more revenue? These guys have always accused traditional big clubs of "controlling" UEFA. Why do they think they will relinquish that control? Bonkers.

 

[Rolandofgilead]

Simply untrue.

Old Trafford is always dead for CL group games, unless we're losing in which case we managed to rouse ourselves a bit (comebacks against Braga and Galatasaray in 12/13 I seem to remember being at). It's filled full of daytrippers and school kids on free tickets who's only contribution to the atmosphere is to countdown to half and full time, and the Stretty can barely be arsed. We can't get all high and mighty about it (though at least, it is usually 95% full). It was actually embarrassing against Gala with their mental fans not shutting up for 90 minutes screaming all sorts and all we had was school kids in the K stand to come up against them.

Obviously once we start playing proper teams in the knockout rounds it's incredible. The Madrid game was just about as good as a British atmosphere can be, outstanding that day and really matched the magnitude of the game.

This.

Sociadad last season was quality but that's only because we experimented with the singing section and it challenged the east stand where I was, to join in and In turn the stretty didn't want to be out done. But once the typical moyes performance took over, the atmosphere quickly faded as we settled down to a scrappy 1-0 win.

 

[Rykker_4united]

Best centre back in the league for the last how many years and gets the credit that deserves. In no way is he over-rated.

is he feck?

 

[MoskvaRed]

For all the massive investment (no pun intended), they have never really convinced, have they? Aside from the ongoing feeble attempts at the Champions League, both their titles have been opportunistic, resulting from a rival's collapse. They have never carried the aura of Fergie's best United sides, Mourinho's first Chelsea side or Arsenal's great team of the early naughties. With FFP kicking in and some key players getting older, they have probably already peaked.

 

[2 man midfield]

He can't be serious.

"We'll have our own party, and it'll be cooler than theirs, so nehh!"

 

[JustAFan]

For all the massive investment (no pun intended), they have never really convinced, have they? Aside from the ongoing feeble attempts at the Champions League, both their titles have been opportunistic, resulting from a rival's collapse. They have never carried the aura of Fergie's best United sides, Mourinho's first Chelsea side or Arsenal's great team of the early naughties. With FFP kicking in and some key players getting older, they have probably already peaked.

Another issue for them, comparing them to say us or Chelsea is they still don't have seem to have built a core that actually loves being there. Chelsea had/has players like Terry, Lampard, Cech, Drogba, who did not just come for a fat paycheck, they actually seem to love the club they play for. For us we had players, not just the class of 92, but guys like Cantona, VDS, Vidic, Rio, etc who truly loved playing for United.

With City they can play hard every other season, but you don't get the feeling many of the players are really connected with the club. Part of that probably has to do with the fact that most of them know that regardless of what they do for the club if their owner sees a shiney new player he wants, they will be cast aside.

 

[BobbyManc]

All their Christmases came at once in May 2012.....Nothing will be ever as good for them again. Nothing! They serve no purpose now.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

[Getsme]

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

You are a terrible Club though, maybe some of your fans are decent but the way the Club is run is embarrassing.

 

[BobbyManc]

You are a terrible Club though, maybe some of your fans are decent but the way the Club is run is embarrassing.

Ok

 

[MoskvaRed]

Another issue for them, comparing them to say us or Chelsea is they still don't have seem to have built a core that actually loves being there. Chelsea had/has players like Terry, Lampard, Cech, Drogba, who did not just come for a fat paycheck, they actually seem to love the club they play for. For us we had players, not just the class of 92, but guys like Cantona, VDS, Vidic, Rio, etc who truly loved playing for United.

With City they can play hard every other season, but you don't get the feeling many of the players are really connected with the club. Part of that probably has to do with the fact that most of them know that regardless of what they do for the club if their owner sees a shiney new player he wants, they will be cast aside.

Very good point about the lack of a core of committed players. When comparing to the obvious point of reference (Chelsea), it's hard to say whether that's due to the individuals at City or the uninspiring rota of managers they have hired (Hughes, Mancini, Pellegrini) as opposed to a master of motivation like Mourinho.

 

[Getsme]

Ok

Glad you agree.

 

[Igor Drefljak]

Just curious as to why they are badly run?
I mean, the sacking of managers is normal these days so it's surely not that.

For me, what lets City down is the fans. Now I know its not all of them, but when you read Bluemoon, it's just full of idiots.
The amount of vile comments they come out with is outstanding. It will have started with one or two, and the rest just follow.

 

[Oggmonster]

You are a terrible Club though, maybe some of your fans are decent but the way the Club is run is embarrassing.

I don't think the club is badly run in their defence, they actually seem quite forward thinking with a lot of things such as the stadium development and the surrounding area (whether they fill it or not isn't really the argument here but it is a very very good idea what they have.) I think you'll find lots of people will copy City's ideas in the future when it comes to expanding/new stadiums.

I think a lot of their core fans are good fans in City's defence to, you get a lot of deluded ones but that comes with money. I don't for 1 minute think they'd really want to go back to the shit days of playing Macc in the freezing cold like they love to say but I'd guess they would like to have their core fans like they used to have instead of the hangers on that come with success. It's probably the same with most clubs and that includes us.

Their success, or lack of, hasn't got much to do with ownership or anything like that. It's the mentality of the team and the managers mistakes. That team is more than good enough to go on a good CL run but they can't do it.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Whilst the statement might be slightly OTT there is a point there. Lets be realistic you were in a 2 horse race for a title with your rivals, who you were in the shadow of for years, you were then about to get done over again and said rivals were the ones who were going to take your glory (yet again) then with the last kick of the game you took the title out their grasp. It wouldn't get more satisfying for that than most clubs not just City!

 

[ravi2]

Just curious as to why they are badly run?
I mean, the sacking of managers is normal these days so it's surely not that.

For me, what lets City down is the fans. Now I know its not all of them, but when you read Bluemoon, it's just full of idiots.
The amount of vile comments they come out with is outstanding. It will have started with one or two, and the rest just follow.

Its not only Bluemoon, but with soccernet and pretty much every site i visit the City fans seem completely obsessed by MUFC to the point there FB pages are pasted all over with articles about how much MUFC "sucks".

They cannot seem to enjoy their own success, it must be exhausting to be a City fan and live with that hate all day.

 

[matherto]

Yeah I don't they're badly run at all. On the contrary I think Mansour is a pretty decent owner all round. Abramovich would've fired Pellegrini by now in his earlier days for instance. Plus you look at their training ground and all the facilities that are gonna be there for the community, plus expanding the stadium.

As Igor says, it's the fans. Bitter, twisted, horrible individuals. No identity whatsoever anymore.

 

[Tarrou]

The fans enjoyed it more when they were in the 3rd tier than the Champions league. At least then they could claim to be a massive club and nobody could prove them wrong. Now they've won the title and play regularly in the Champions league, it's dawned on them how few fans they have, and how shit those fans are. Feel sorry for Aguero, Kompany and Silva having to play there. They should be at a big club, playing in front of great crowds.

 

[kouroux]

Kompany following the trend of placing something in a 'hashtag' because he knows it's too cheesy and cringeworthy to say it outright. Idiot.

2pac?! He died like a decade before twitter was invented!

Too much Justin Beiber maybe

 

[Erebus]

I think here is an issue of managers and management at the club. True they are doing great things in the East of the city, and that smacks of good business management, something the Sheikhs are good at - they're very good businessmen. But I think the football management has been pretty ropey. Someone clearly misinformed them about the implications of FFP for example - the owners wouldn't know so would follow the (pretty bad obviously) advice they received. I also think their managers have been pretty poor to be honest. Mancini only won by being in the right place at the right time to win titles (due to rebuilding of other teams in England and scandals/rebuilding in Italy), and has not exactly set the world on fire anywhere else. Similar with Pelegrini and his title win - they nearly screwed that one up as well.

 

[Getsme]

Just curious as to why they are badly run?
I mean, the sacking of managers is normal these days so it's surely not that.

For me, what lets City down is the fans. Now I know its not all of them, but when you read Bluemoon, it's just full of idiots.
The amount of vile comments they come out with is outstanding. It will have started with one or two, and the rest just follow.

Things like the bluffers guide or the three stars above their badge all stink of a small time Club trying to play with the big boys. Then we have the buy one get one free tickets for one of their most important Champions League games and blaming Guy Fawkes Night for the expected low turnout, all this while planning to extend a stadium that they can’t fill at the best of times. Then they completely ignore FFP and end up getting a £50 million fine for their troubles.
You could even throw the way they handled the Tevez incident, or the way they paid for the ‘Tevez welcome to Manchester’ poster in the City Centre.

Not only are they trying to compete with the big boys but they are acting like they belong in the elite group of teams, which is cringe worthy at best. I would respect them a hell of a lot more if they started to grow from where they were instead of trying to get to the top by acting the way they are.

I suppose if I’m being truthful they have started to act slightly more professionally, but I’ve heard ex and current players say that City have to act like a big Club to be a big Club which is complete bollocks, they have to gain respect and build slowly on what they already had, so far they’ve failed because they wanted to get there to quick.
They are a small time Club with a small time mentality and they will remain that way until they realise that they aren’t as big, or will ever be as big as their more successful neighbours.

 

[BobbyManc]

Things like the bluffers guide or the three stars above their badge all stink of a small time Club trying to play with the big boys. Then we have the buy one get one free tickets for one of their most important Champions League games and blaming Guy Fawkes Night for the expected low turnout, all this while planning to extend a stadium that they can’t fill at the best of times. Then they completely ignore FFP and end up getting a £50 million fine for their troubles.
You could even throw the way they handled the Tevez incident, or the way they paid for the ‘Tevez welcome to Manchester’ poster in the City Centre.

Not only are they trying to compete with the big boys but they are acting like they belong in the elite group of teams, which is cringe worthy at best. I would respect them a hell of a lot more if they started to grow from where they were instead of trying to get to the top by acting the way they are.

I suppose if I’m being truthful they have started to act slightly more professionally, but I’ve heard ex and current players say that City have to act like a big Club to be a big Club which is complete bollocks, they have to gain respect and build slowly on what they already had, so far they’ve failed because they wanted to get there to quick.
They are a small time Club with a small time mentality and they will remain that way until they realise that they aren’t as big, or will ever be as big as their more successful neighbours.

What a pathetic post. Basically, City don't have a right to be competing with the teams already established at the top and we should accept our place as a lesser team and have no ambition. How dare we try and compete with the 'big boys'

 

[Getsme]

What a pathetic post. Basically, City don't have a right to be competing with the teams already established at the top and we should accept our place as a lesser team and have no ambition. How dare we try and compete with the 'big boys'

You aren’t competing through your own means, until you do then I will have zero respect for your Club.

You have to earn respect before it's given, just because you hit the jackpot doesn’t mean you have the right to call yourself a big Club. You are where you are through luck, yet act like you deserve to be regarded as an elite Club. Bollocks to that, Man City are nothing more than a sugar daddy’s play thing and would still be languishing in the bottom half of the Premiership or most likely in the Championship had they not got lucky.

Let’s be honest here, how many fans outside of the UK and Ireland had even heard of Man City before you hit it rich? Not many, in fact you are such a small Club you can’t even sell out your home games.
I hate Liverpool but I respect them as a Club, they have a right to think they belong in Europe’s biggest competition, same goes for Arsenal and Spurs, all Clubs that have built their success on the own terms, but City? No chance.

 

[BobbyManc]

You aren’t competing through your own means, until you do then I will have zero respect for your Club.

You have to earn respect before it's given, just because you hit the jackpot doesn’t mean you have the right to call yourself a big Club. You are where you are through luck, yet act like you deserve to be regarded as an elite Club. Bollocks to that, Man City are nothing more than a sugar daddy’s play thing and would still be languishing in the bottom half of the Premiership or most likely in the Championship had they not got lucky.

Let’s be honest here, how many fans outside of the UK and Ireland had even heard of Man City before you hit it rich? Not many, in fact you are such a small Club you can’t even sell out your home games.
I hate Liverpool but I respect them as a Club, they have a right to think they belong in Europe’s biggest competition, same goes for Arsenal and Spurs, all Clubs that have built their success on the own terms, but City? No chance.

City can attract players like David Silva and Sergio Aguero to play for them, but we can't command the respect of Manchester United fans. Damn. Oh well.

 

[Getsme]

City can attract players like David Silva and Sergio Aguero to play for them, but we can't command the respect of Manchester United fans. Damn. Oh well.

City dont attract them, lets be honest here.

 

[cesc's_mullet]

City dont attract them, lets be honest here.

They're playing for City, no?

Therefore they attract them... They just attract them with more money than others.

 

[Getsme]

They're playing for City, no?

Therefore they attract them... They just attract them with more money than others.

Yes, the money attracts them, not the Club.

 

[BobbyManc]

City dont attract them, lets be honest here.

Yeah, we attract them with the lure of money and a chance to win trophies.

 

[cesc's_mullet]

Yes, the money attracts them, not the Club.

Do you think players would play for United for nothing?

 

[cesc's_mullet]

Yeah, we attract them with the lure of money and a chance to win trophies.

Exactly.