It'd never happen but Berbatov-Torres up top with Rooney behind and Nani/Valencia on the wings...
Blow it all on Torres (before Chelsea does)
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Please god no. Great player, but I dislike him more than any other player out there at the moment. Can't stand his attitude to games and he'd probably just annoy me even more in a United shirt.
Plus at United his constant, pathetic cheating/sulking would be highlighted, and then we'd have to put up with scousers and all else claiming United had turned him into that type of player.
Then there's the injuries. £40+ million for a player you can't rely on to be fit, or not randomly spend the entire game acting like a six year old.
Stay away.
Plus at United his constant, pathetic cheating/sulking would be highlighted, and then we'd have to put up with scousers and all else claiming United had turned him into that type of player.
Then there's the injuries. £40+ million for a player you can't rely on to be fit, or not randomly spend the entire game acting like a six year old.
Stay away.
The team with Xabi Alonso wasn't bad at all and Torres played as their only out-and-out striker, the whole team worked to create chances for him. It's not as simple as you tend to believe.
Does David Villa score much more goals at Barcelona than he did at Valencia? No, because he isn't the main attacking threat any more. If your logic was right, Darren Bent would score 50 goals at Barcelona because they create much much more chances than Sunderland where he scored nearly 30 goals last season.
Torres is an unbelievable player, the daft twat should never have gone to Liverpool
Be interesting to see how much his curent malaise is down to just poor form everyone goes through, lack of confidence, being at a club going backwards, or long term injury issues
No doubt its a bit of all of them, but he seems to have lost that acceleration burst that put him on another level for me
I think he'd still be a potentially magnificent signing for Chelsea, get him back firing and he's one of the very very best in the world, they'll be a hell of a force
I don't want him because he's tainted Scouse goods now, though the thought of them becoming our feeder club amuses me. He'd be a great player for us too mind I'm sure
Be interesting to see how much his curent malaise is down to just poor form everyone goes through, lack of confidence, being at a club going backwards, or long term injury issues
No doubt its a bit of all of them, but he seems to have lost that acceleration burst that put him on another level for me
I think he'd still be a potentially magnificent signing for Chelsea, get him back firing and he's one of the very very best in the world, they'll be a hell of a force
I don't want him because he's tainted Scouse goods now, though the thought of them becoming our feeder club amuses me. He'd be a great player for us too mind I'm sure
Tévez still outcocks Torres, the colossal cock. Little Carlos has done just about every cockish move in the book.
He's a sulky little girl. That's got a lot to do with his poor form.
He's always been like that. He used to sulk through every game against us until the infamous Vidic slip. Moping around and occasionally kicking people, and being of no use at all to his team mates.
Seriously, ability wise he's probably the best striker going but his attitude is so wrong he makes Ronaldo look like a faultless god.
He's always been like that. He used to sulk through every game against us until the infamous Vidic slip. Moping around and occasionally kicking people, and being of no use at all to his team mates.
Seriously, ability wise he's probably the best striker going but his attitude is so wrong he makes Ronaldo look like a faultless god.
The team was built more around Bent than Torres. It's nothing to do with logic. Torres is a far superior player to Bent, and Bent would never get near that Barca team so I don't know what you're on about. Torres would walk into it, that's the difference.
As for the Villa part, well of course he doesn't and you just said why, because he's NOT their focal point. If he was he obviously would score more goals, seeing as he's so clinical and Barca create an outrageous amount of chances.
Your 'logic' is always stats Treble, there's more to it than that.
I'm not sure how you could deny that Torres would've scored more goals at us or at Chelsea if he was played as the main striker. Though in fairness he probably wouldn't have done that with us.
No thanks
He's the type of player I'd feel would bag goals for fun at United, the only other striker I really felt would score as many at United is Eto'o.
Two important facts: His injury record is alarming, especially considering the price. Liverpool would sell him at a loss before they'd sell him to us.
He made the wrong choice going there in the first place.
Two important facts: His injury record is alarming, especially considering the price. Liverpool would sell him at a loss before they'd sell him to us.
He made the wrong choice going there in the first place.
The sulky twat argument is being way overcooked which will probably result in noods setting his house on fire.
Anyone would have started to sulk if they were as good as him having to play for that shambles and being relied on to save them every game.
He's a brilliant player and has always seemed a nice lad.
He'd be an amazing player to have even if he only played half the games, but it will never ever happen.
Anyone would have started to sulk if they were as good as him having to play for that shambles and being relied on to save them every game.
He's a brilliant player and has always seemed a nice lad.
He'd be an amazing player to have even if he only played half the games, but it will never ever happen.
With his injury record, would not pay more than £20m for him.
I think I agree concerning the sulky twat argument, the fact is he has the talent to change a game in a moment, so most of the time if he can't be arsed it still doesn't mean he won't get a goal.
The injury situation is far more important.
That and the fact this will never, ever, happen.
No thanks.
I'm not sure. He sulked big time at Old Trafford. Reminded me of Ruud in his last season.
PS: Noods does not need excuses to set fires.
Liverpool is the only team for which Torres has been prolific. For Spain his goalscoring record sucks: 26 goals from 81 games. (Compare that to Villa's record that is twce better than Torres'.) Why so? Because much depends on the system the team uses and whether the striker can flourish in it. I think that Liverpool's system was good for him, he was the only striker and the service in previous seasons wasn't bad. Spain play very very differently from Liverpool and Torres hasn't been special for them.
Stats are far from being everything but they provide us with facts, opinions that aren't based on facts are just speculations and groundless generalisations. I'm not saying that Torres wouldn't score more goals at Chelsea, I'm saying that we couldn't infer with any certainty that he would be more prolific at a better team.
I hope he stays at Liverpool, he isn't dangerous for us there.
A lot of strikers struggle for goals at international level though. Hell, even the freaks of nature that are Ronaldo and Messi do.
I'd still rate Torres higher than Villa, he's a prolific scorer but I think Torres has more to his all round game.
Villa's better at dribbling around defenders and at creating chances for team-mates, Torres is quicker and better in the air. Honestly, I don't know who is a better striker.
Torres has more outrageous flair than Villa, but Villa is consistently better. Torres on his top-form however is an amazing striker.
Explain that one..
Torres would be a bad buy. We don't need an injury prone striker thank you 
What the feck is that?
draco dormiens nunquam titillandus.
Am I really being ribbed for that one?
Ah well, I was going to say flamboyant ability instead.
Ah well, I was going to say flamboyant ability instead.
I reckon Torres would be a better player than Villa with better application and if his attitude was transformed.
Only idiots are question you, Adzzz.
'Ignorantia juris neminem excusat'
'Ignorantia juris neminem excusat'
I thought it was obvious that I meant for you to explain why you think Torres has more flair than Villa
N no no no no no no no no non o no nono nonooooo!!!! Our cnut quota is full. Any more would see us being targeted by the USA as part of the axis of Evil and bombed.
Although we could sell fat lad to redress the balance......what to do?
Although we could sell fat lad to redress the balance......what to do?
Are you feeling particularly Roman today Spoony? Let sleeping Dragons lie I say, but no matter what, ignorance of the law is no excuse really.
I think Villa is great, but Torres on his best form is a much better player to watch simply because Torres is more likely to produce a moment of magic to turn his defender inside out. Torres is an exciting player to watch. Also, Torres is a good few years younger than Villa and with the correct application can supersede him as a footballer in terms of talent, even if he never matches Villa's goal-machine like statistics.
Yeah, we should popularise Latin. And illegitimis nil carborundum, Adzz. feck them.
What do you reckon Spoony, Chelsea or City for Torres? I'm inclined at the moment to think he won't leave in this window.
David Villa has more flair in his locker than Torres, he can rip defenders in a variety of ways whereas Torres relies on raw pace and an excellent body feint which admittedly is one of the best in the business (not close to Giggsy though).
But as Plizzle said, anyone of his caliber would in his situation would.
People comparing it to Ruud or Rooney is nonsense. Both of them were playing in successful teams and acting like they had it rough and deserved better when they didn't....He actually DOES deserve better. He's 26 and hasn't won anything club wise despite being promised he was on the verge of greatness at liverpool when he first signed.....I think he's been a saint to stay there so long through such utter shit...
Though granted the timing sucks
What do you reckon Spoony, Chelsea or City for Torres? I'm inclined at the moment to think he won't leave in this window.
Tough one. I think it'll be Chelsea.
Agreed, he's a big match player at the peak of his career not getting the opportunity to feature in Big matches. I don't see how anyone can blame him.
Torres is more exciting to watch, though. And Villa looks like an extra from El Dorado - feck me, did people actually watch that?
Yeah, Torres doesn't seem the type to want to play for City. I don't really think he's doing this for the money, but rather the trophies.
Saying that, anything over 40 million for Torres is a massive gamble, he's not even close to his pre-injury form and is probably just as likely to go on having an inconsistent career with his injury prone body.
To be fair, he doesn't owe Liverpool anything, and yes, he just wants to win trophies at club level. Clearly Liverpool's not the right place for an ambitious player at the moment, ut humiliter opinor. But I dunno, is Stamford Bridge?
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