blanc or o'shea?

Originally posted by FlyingPasty:
<strong>Yes he was with another club, but we put bids in for him the club accepted but he rejected. Thats a snub</strong><hr></blockquote>

Prove it.
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>Just asking where was Blanc during the goal?????
After all he is the experienced leader isnt it.

And btw goals were fatal last season and are fatal now because it means that it will give Arsenal more chance to strenghten thier position as leaders of the league.

Remeber a goal can mean drawing or losing a game</strong><hr></blockquote>

Experienced leader, yada, yada, he is one of four defenders. The great Nesta made an error that cost Italy a goal against Yugoslavia. a world class player at the peak of his power.

Ofcource all goals are fatal, last season and this. Doesn't mean it's all Blanc's fault.
 
News of the world have showed photos that show that Ferdinard was there and he was marking a player ( possibly smith if i remember well)But where was Blanc?

On the other side Blanc had PUBLICALY refused us two times

1 when he left Barcelona to go to Italy
2 His first year with Inter

you dont watch italian football dont you

and non sapete l italiano ( you dont know italian)

The facts are

1 Blanc came to OT when NO ONE WANTED HIM
2 He did refused a Manutd switch during his golden era.

Blanc would have played with the reserves as even Hector Cuper had publicaly confirmed that

and Inter's defense had improved since Blanc left San Siro.
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>1 Blanc came to OT when NO ONE WANTED HIM
2 He did refused a Manutd switch during his golden era.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Blanc came to OT when Inter no longer wanted him and United did. Doesn't mean no one wanted him. You can bet your life he would easily have founed a good club, even if not a top one.

2. Let's say he did say no. So what? Every player's dream has to be to play for United or in England? He didn't before, he does now. Thats fine.

All and all, what you are basically doing is bad mouthing the manager. He brought Blanc, he made him a regular first team player a second season in a row.

Do you understand football better than the manager?
 
Well Amir, my old pal you are wrong

For 2 times Blanc have publically said that he refused a Manutd switch

1 when he chosen Inter
2 After a year with Inter

He said to the italian media that he sees Spanish, French and Italian football as better than the English one and that HE HAD REFUSED AN OFFER FROM MANUTD.

believe me, he came at OT when he couldnt find any club and only when Cuper confirmed that Blanc is only a reserve.( I have seen it on the italian media)

BTW last season Inter had a better defense than when they had Blanc

We may argue whether he is still good enough or not But HE IS DEFINATELY A MERCENARY. who came to OT just to lenghten his carrier
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>1 when he chosen Inter
2 After a year with Inter

believe me, he came at OT when he couldnt find any club and only when Cuper confirmed that Blanc is only a reserve.( I have seen it on the italian media)

BTW last season Inter had a better defense than when they had Blanc

We may argue whether he is still good enough or not But HE IS DEFINATELY A MERCENARY. who came to OT just to lenghten his carrier</strong><hr></blockquote>

Fine. So Blanc refused us. So? Saying he couldn't find a club last year is nonsence. At worse, he could always return to France where they'd be plenty of clubs who'd want him. But Inter released him on a free because United wanted to take him, not for the sake of letting him go.

Yes, Inter defence improved last season. So did their entire bloody team. So? It's all because Blanc left?

Look, I'm not having this anymore. You haven't a clue about football and I hope Sir Alex doesn't get too upset with me stealing his lines but Blanc is a f*ck*ing great player.

And if you can't realise that, well, though.
 
Well definately not in Spain, Italy and France

There were no offers as inter milan confermed

In fact Inter were surpised that a club like manutd had enquired for him.

I would have taken him in my local youth center club's though. Yet i wouldnt played him for the entire 90min because, you know, he doesnt have the stamina.
 
Please Amir dont shoot me I am British and not Palestinian promise <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>

I would have taken him in my local youth center club's though. Yet i wouldnt played him for the entire 90min because, you know, he doesnt have the stamina.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Funny that useless Fergie hasn't picked up on that a year on.
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>Please Amir dont shoot me I am British and not Palestinian promise <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

theres no need to resort to racism.

and as for the Blanc debate, you clearly just dont like the man for some reason.
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>Please Amir dont shoot me I am British and not Palestinian promise <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

People who live in Malta trying to teach Israelies football hey? ;)
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>Well definately not in Spain, Italy and France

There were no offers as inter milan confermed

In fact Inter were surpised that a club like manutd had enquired for him.

I would have taken him in my local youth center club's though. Yet i wouldnt played him for the entire 90min because, you know, he doesnt have the stamina.</strong><hr></blockquote>

devilish, you are getting very annoying. it has been obvious from everything you said that you haven't ever seen blanc play in the flesh.

how well or otherwise he played at Inter is beside the point -- he has been excellent for us since he settled into the team. this year, he has been absolutely brilliant -- as you would know, if you had ever seen him play.

as for your comments about amir "not shooting you"... you should keep your mouth shut, as you are showing what an ignorant fool you are.

enough of this moron.
 
It shows that you cannot understand a joke dont't you.

I know Sir Alex, I Admire him a lot and when you meet him as i did (7 times) you will understand how good he is.

BUT DEFINATELY HE IS GOD

he do mistakes do you know that?

1 (this is official he said it to me) was not buying Zinedine Zidane at 4.5m

In so many years fergie have won us many honours, and brought in some wonderful players but he did bought some crappy players.

Poborsky and cruyff are perfect examples arent they??

It is true that blanc had lead a crappy defense filled with injuries. But it is also true that stam had also passed form similar situations and came out with flying colours.

Remeber that during stam

1 Irwin was already old
2 Brown may and johnsen suffered from long term injuries
3 Silvestre was yet to settle at ot
 
1st of all i was only joking Blunder

secondly how can i be a racist when these ppl AND the germans had invented the racisn. My grandfather had died to give liberty to these ppl(mind you i would have done the same) and then they do a hitler by invading and torturing the palestinians.

People who live in Malta trying to teach Israelies football hey?

btw i am ENGLISH my friend. I was born in Manchester and came to malta just to work. Do you know that WE HAVE INVENTED FOOTBALL?
 
Let me think. I HAVE WATCHED MANUTD FOR 30 TIMES (LIFE)IN ALL MY LIFE.

I WATCHED BLANC ( ABOUT LIFE) 5 TIMES + 2 DURING THE TOURNEE DE FRANCE AND + 2 DURING FRANCE 98

ANSWERED
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>Let me think. I HAVE WATCHED MANUTD FOR 30 TIMES (LIFE)IN ALL MY LIFE.

I WATCHED BLANC ( ABOUT LIFE) 5 TIMES + 2 DURING THE TOURNEE DE FRANCE AND + 2 DURING FRANCE 98

ANSWERED</strong><hr></blockquote>


so you've seen blanc play for united all of.... once....

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I have answered you on how much i have (personally) watched blanc playing

Of coarse i c manutd play every game thanks to the sattelite, the cable, the maltese and the italian media.


I cannot understand why you are laughing, so pls illuminate me.
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+ means

5 games with manutd
2 games in the tournoi
and 2 games in france 98

Sorry for the misunderstanding
 
devilish 2 points..

you claim Roberts tore Blanc apart at OT.
whilst that is true, we did not concede. I also said at the time that people should not under-estimate Jason Roberts as he is a very good player. As we've seen this season Monsieur Blanc certainly wasnt the last person to be embarrased by him. He tore the Arsenal apart at Highbury, though Arsenal still won.

Kewells goal against United: the whole defence was sleeping. Certainly wasnt down to Kewell being out-paced by the old 'has-been' For a start Harte was given way too much time and room to cross.

As Stick posted earlier in this thread, you have to remember that Fergie didnt just buy Blanc for his play on the pitch. he has openly said that he wanted to pass on Blancs knowledge to the likes of O'Shea and Wes Brown. As a tutor or mentor to these players Blanc has been invaluable.
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>these ppl are the hebrews</strong><hr></blockquote>


I think you'd be best to keep your comments about "the hebrews" to yourself.
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>btw i am ENGLISH my friend. I was born in Manchester and came to malta just to work. Do you know that WE HAVE INVENTED FOOTBALL?</strong><hr></blockquote>

So? American people invented basketball and they were taught a lesson this summer.
 
Devillish,

Blanc has got the technical skills enough to get him by. Look, we have conceded very few goals this season. Last season we lost to so many crazy goals because of Barthez, Brown, Veron, Gaz and a few others... it wasn't only Blanc. He was in his first year and I'd say he did a much better job than Veron did.

Look, keane is not playing and as i have note, we haven't lost a game. In fact, we're already on a 6-game winning streak.

So I remain firm on my remarks, I think it's because Keane has gone bonkers that's why we weren't performing.

O'Shea will difinitely overtake Blanc one day but he dosn't have enough experience. He's not going to be able to play 60 games a season. I agree Blanc will not be able to either, but both of them can provide United with what they're good at and right now with our limited options, Blanc would be first choice whenever he's fit.
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>1 (this is official he said it to me) was not buying Zinedine Zidane at 4.5m

Poborsky and cruyff are perfect examples arent they??

3 Silvestre was yet to settle at ot</strong><hr></blockquote>

Everyone makes mistakes. I wouldn't say Blanc was one though. I feel some people may only learn to appreciate him when he's actually gone.

If I could turn the clock back to summer 96 I'd still buy Cruyff and Poborsky. We payed 4.5 combined for two very talented players. Poborsky didn't fit into English football and couldn't keep Beckham out of the lineup, while Cruyff suffered from a series of injuries, but on another time, both could have ended up as bargains.
 
Originally posted by Amir:
<strong>

Everyone makes mistakes. I wouldn't say Blanc was one though. I feel some people may only learn to appreciate him when he's actually gone.

If I could turn the clock back to summer 96 I'd still buy Cruyff and Poborsky. We payed 4.5 combined for two very talented players. Poborsky didn't fit into English football and couldn't keep Beckham out of the lineup, while Cruyff suffered from a series of injuries, but on another time, both could have ended up as bargains.</strong><hr></blockquote>

agreed. Poborsky was unlucky in that at the time Beckham was starting to emerge on the scene. he was certainly no worse than Forlan who has received a lot more support from the fans that Pob did.
Cruyff was unlucky with injuries. On the occasions he did play for us he didnt let us down. even scored a few important goals along the way. I think he proved himself last season in what he is capable off for his Spanish team on the way to the final.
 
I don't understand why people keep knocking Blanc. Besides the FA Cup exit last season, was there a game lost where you could put the blame squarely on Blanc? I think Barthez lost us more games that Blanc did, if he ever did.

Sure he had problems with Jason Roberts' pace against West Brom, but he let him in a grand total of... once. That's good enough for me. Personally I remember more vital tackles from Blanc than mistakes. One against Spurs springs to mind.

Blanc has done his job and more. He's scored more than Stam, and in vital situations too. And I can't say it enough, do you think John O'Shea's emergence has nothing to do with the fact that Blanc is at Old Trafford?
 
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I cannot understand why you are laughing, so pls illuminate me.
:confused: [/QB][/QUOTE]

He is laughing because you are a sad, patheitic, ex-pat turd who clearly knows nothing about football but likes to mouth off tediously. Why don't you just stick to hanging out at the "Ye Olde English Pubbe" with the rest of your sad friends and leave the rest of us alone?
 
Originally posted by spinoza:
<strong>
Blanc has done his job and more. He's scored more than Stam, and in vital situations too. And I can't say it enough, do you think John O'Shea's emergence has nothing to do with the fact that Blanc is at Old Trafford?</strong><hr></blockquote>

The contribution of Blanc and Stam can't be compared in this instance. Stam didn't score so many goals, but he looked much much more solid in defence. Even more than I feel Rio can be over the next few years.

Rio is several years behind Stam, but believe me, Blanc is several years past Stam. Blanc is getting slower by the minute.

He's a great player in his own position, but I don't feel he provides enough confidence for the attacking team that "hey it's ok, we won't lose goals tonight".

Blanc has several good games for us and I believe this could be a year for him, but no, he won't be as successful as Stam was for us.
 
Please illluminate me on this OSCAR

If the msg want for you why the feckin hell you answered it

i have three ideas

1 you are his mum
2 you are his gay partner
3 well you are the F*cking asswipe who like to enter in other ppl life

Now answer me this

1 Are you from Manchester? I AM
2 Have you ever watched Manutd life? I DO 4 times a year + i was a season ticket holder in england.

Patethic? me!

I am a rich guy with a Rover and a wonderful job + wife. Always living in Heaven on earth island (malta)and have met all the team including ex legends Best,Charlton, Cantona and Robson

You are pathetic because you cannot accept other ppl opinions

Uncivilised because this lack of acceptance makes you insult a person who havent done you any harm

AND STUPID.

Not every person inside here agrees with me but we can talk civilizely. After all we are all Man Utd supporters who want the best for the team <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
 
RUNITED i agree PERFECTLY with you

selling Stam and bringing in Blanc was a step( or 2 steps) backwards.

I am not saying that Blanc is a bad player( i repeat it again) but i do believe that currently we have better options than him

O Shea is one of those options

:D
 
Devlish

I would claim that going on line and telling the world that you are successful because you drive a rover is an excellent definition of "pathetic"
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>Please illluminate me on this OSCAR

If the msg want for you why the feckin hell you answered it

i have three ideas

1 you are his mum
2 you are his gay partner
3 well you are the F*cking asswipe who like to enter in other ppl life

Now answer me this

1 Are you from Manchester? I AM
2 Have you ever watched Manutd life? I DO 4 times a year + i was a season ticket holder in england.

Patethic? me!

I am a rich guy with a Rover and a wonderful job + wife. Always living in Heaven on earth island (malta)and have met all the team including ex legends Best,Charlton, Cantona and Robson

You are pathetic because you cannot accept other ppl opinions

Uncivilised because this lack of acceptance makes you insult a person who havent done you any harm

AND STUPID.

Not every person inside here agrees with me but we can talk civilizely. After all we are all Man Utd supporters who want the best for the team <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>


Where are you from in Manchester, Devilish?
 
he's not a brit look at the way he uses the written word.
 
Originally posted by mu77:
<strong>he's not a brit look at the way he uses the written word.</strong><hr></blockquote>

yes and even his car is German
 
Originally posted by mu77:
<strong>he's not a brit look at the way he uses the written word.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I suspect he's gone to find an atlas with Manchester on it, so he can pick out an area he'll claim to be from....
 
Originally posted by mancred:
<strong>

I suspect he's gone to find an atlas with Manchester on it, so he can pick out an area he'll claim to be from....</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by golden_blunder:
<strong>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

He'll probably pick Rusholme coz it's near the city centre.....
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
<strong>Devillish,

Blanc has got the technical skills enough to get him by. Look, we have conceded very few goals this season. Last season we lost to so many crazy goals because of Barthez, Brown, Veron, Gaz and a few others... it wasn't only Blanc. He was in his first year and I'd say he did a much better job than Veron did.

Look, keane is not playing and as i have note, we haven't lost a game. In fact, we're already on a 6-game winning streak.

So I remain firm on my remarks, I think it's because Keane has gone bonkers that's why we weren't performing.

O'Shea will difinitely overtake Blanc one day but he dosn't have enough experience. He's not going to be able to play 60 games a season. I agree Blanc will not be able to either, but both of them can provide United with what they're good at and right now with our limited options, Blanc would be first choice whenever he's fit.</strong><hr></blockquote>

What about the Leeds game.
 
Originally posted by Canadian Dee:
<strong>

What about the Leeds game.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ok, here's how I would explain it.

1. We were missing our captain, things were going hectic. We lost 2 games on the trot, one against Bolton, the other against Leeds. Not a surprise, since then we've been performing very strongly.

2. If you watch the tape of the game, you'll find that Leeds put up a great play for the goal scored. Neither Blanc NOR FERDIDNAND was present around Kewell. No other player in the team could do anything about it. It was a perfect goal scored.

Come on, other people have made much more mistakes. Look at Seaman making all his blunders - is he still not a good keeper Canadian Dee?