I like how o'Shea seems to be able to muscle big players off the ball effortlessly. His handling of JFH in the Chelsea game a few weeks back proved he is a world class CB already.
BLANC is a sheer class, despite his name remind me of a bad period for us last season?(Bolton, Leeds, Arse, Newcastle, Chelsea) 
Blanc's story reminds me of two world class defenders which had won EVERYTHING with AC Milan
Mauro Tassotti, an intelligent and wonderful right back, renowned for his class. The ending of his story? Simple he was outrunned by an 18 yr old Kluivert and costed AC Milan the champions Leaugue.
Franco Baresi, in my opinion the best defender ever to play football. He was sheer clas, the pride of Italy and the most intelligent defender I had ever seen. But all his class proved nothing when at 35 he was literally massacrated by Vieri in a 6+ humilating defeat against Inter
The sad old truth is this. Nowadays pace is needed in any defender. Look at Blanc against WestBrom he was literally massacrated by Roberts.
As already stated Blanc was brought to give solidity to our backline and you know last year's results.
And dont blame the entire team, its the defenders job to defend.
Mauro Tassotti, an intelligent and wonderful right back, renowned for his class. The ending of his story? Simple he was outrunned by an 18 yr old Kluivert and costed AC Milan the champions Leaugue.
Franco Baresi, in my opinion the best defender ever to play football. He was sheer clas, the pride of Italy and the most intelligent defender I had ever seen. But all his class proved nothing when at 35 he was literally massacrated by Vieri in a 6+ humilating defeat against Inter
The sad old truth is this. Nowadays pace is needed in any defender. Look at Blanc against WestBrom he was literally massacrated by Roberts.
As already stated Blanc was brought to give solidity to our backline and you know last year's results.
And dont blame the entire team, its the defenders job to defend.
With UEFA rules which
1 You CANNOT tackle from the back
2 You cannot obstacle the striker in ANY way
Pace is needed and at 37 yrs,Laurent pace is definately not improving
It is true, Laurent had never relied pace
But it is also a fact that Laurent had always been utilised as a sweeper and NOT as a centerback in a 4 flat defense.
That is why Inter sent him for free
And that is why O Shea and G Neville are better options than Blanc
I have brought you two perfect examples where age had humilated two world class defenders ( Tassotti and Baresi)
And history will repeat itself
We have seen it in Brucey when he was humilated by Barcelona's pacey strikers
and we will see it with Blanc (unfortunatey)
Can you see Blanc stopping Owen's or Henry's pace?
I doubt it
1 You CANNOT tackle from the back
2 You cannot obstacle the striker in ANY way
Pace is needed and at 37 yrs,Laurent pace is definately not improving
It is true, Laurent had never relied pace
But it is also a fact that Laurent had always been utilised as a sweeper and NOT as a centerback in a 4 flat defense.
That is why Inter sent him for free
And that is why O Shea and G Neville are better options than Blanc
I have brought you two perfect examples where age had humilated two world class defenders ( Tassotti and Baresi)
And history will repeat itself
We have seen it in Brucey when he was humilated by Barcelona's pacey strikers
and we will see it with Blanc (unfortunatey)
Can you see Blanc stopping Owen's or Henry's pace?
I doubt it
Stupid fool. Did any of them get past him last season with all their pace and skill hmm?
Originally posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber:
<strong>Stupid fool. Did any of them get past him last season with all their pace and skill hmm?
did we win those games?
By the way all this shit about Blanc being given a free is bull shit, he was easily their best player at the end of the Serie A season when he was with them, or do the bashers just have really selective memories.
Our defence, to me, even given last season looks in Prettty good shape for the future, by next season we'll be pretty much rock solid. Hopefully if Escude and some other young RB, we look as if we will have a great defence.
Our defence, to me, even given last season looks in Prettty good shape for the future, by next season we'll be pretty much rock solid. Hopefully if Escude and some other young RB, we look as if we will have a great defence.
First of all i will only reply to civilised ppl and not to A**holes like Red indian who can only express themselves by insulting
Now let us talk about business
I gave given you thousands of reasons why Blanc isnt the BEST OPTION to partner Rio
1st why INTER have sent him for free? ( because they wanted a flat 4 defense and Blanc wasnt cut for this role)
2nd Tell me,How many GREAT clubs possess a 37 yr old central defender who plays week in week, for the entire 90min?
Blanc would be PERFECT if he played as a sweeper in a 3-5-2 formation . But he can easily be outpaced in a flat 4 defense.
I repeat it again, BLANC IS A GOOD DEFENDER.Yet in a flat 4 defense where the offside trap is continually used (This means lots of cordination AND pace), O Shea, W Brown and G Neville are better options
And to those who insult PLSS do not confirm your STUPIDITY
Have a nice weekend BTW and cu next Monday
Comeon ENGLAND, our boys will make us proud
Now let us talk about business
I gave given you thousands of reasons why Blanc isnt the BEST OPTION to partner Rio
1st why INTER have sent him for free? ( because they wanted a flat 4 defense and Blanc wasnt cut for this role)
2nd Tell me,How many GREAT clubs possess a 37 yr old central defender who plays week in week, for the entire 90min?
Blanc would be PERFECT if he played as a sweeper in a 3-5-2 formation . But he can easily be outpaced in a flat 4 defense.
I repeat it again, BLANC IS A GOOD DEFENDER.Yet in a flat 4 defense where the offside trap is continually used (This means lots of cordination AND pace), O Shea, W Brown and G Neville are better options
And to those who insult PLSS do not confirm your STUPIDITY
Have a nice weekend BTW and cu next Monday
Comeon ENGLAND, our boys will make us proud
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>First of all i will only reply to civilised ppl and not to A**holes like Red indian who can only express themselves by insulting
Now let us talk about business
I gave given you thousands of reasons why Blanc isnt the BEST OPTION to partner Rio
1st why INTER have sent him for free? ( because they wanted a flat 4 defense and Blanc wasnt cut for this role)
2nd Tell me,How many GREAT clubs possess a 37 yr old central defender who plays week in week, for the entire 90min?
Blanc would be PERFECT if he played as a sweeper in a 3-5-2 formation . But he can easily be outpaced in a flat 4 defense.
I repeat it again, BLANC IS A GOOD DEFENDER.Yet in a flat 4 defense where the offside trap is continually used (This means lots of cordination AND pace), O Shea, W Brown and G Neville are better options
And to those who insult PLSS do not confirm your STUPIDITY
Have a nice weekend BTW and cu next Monday
Comeon ENGLAND, our boys will make us proud</strong><hr></blockquote>
Good points. Enjoy the game!
Thank you mate, I really needed that boost
Which fool among you lays the blame of our defeats to Arsenal last season squarely on the shoulders of Blanc and his lack of pace?
My old foolish friend strikes again
What I have said was that Blanc would have found it difficult to close ppl filled with pace like henry
but it seems it is too difficult for you to read And think at the same time
You are pure class Red Indian pls pls pls do not give up hope
I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOUR STUPIDITY <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
What I have said was that Blanc would have found it difficult to close ppl filled with pace like henry
but it seems it is too difficult for you to read And think at the same time
You are pure class Red Indian pls pls pls do not give up hope
I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOUR STUPIDITY <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
You keep on giving theoretical examples. Thats all very nice, but the problem is that Blanc has been sheer class for United. So all your logical theories fail in reality.
And stop blabbing about Inter sending him for free. Why should I care about their actions? As far as I am concerned, we simply got a bargain.
And stop blabbing about Inter sending him for free. Why should I care about their actions? As far as I am concerned, we simply got a bargain.
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>First of all i will only reply to civilised ppl and not to A**holes like Red indian who can only express themselves by insulting
Now let us talk about business
I gave given you thousands of reasons why Blanc isnt the BEST OPTION to partner Rio
1st why INTER have sent him for free? ( because they wanted a flat 4 defense and Blanc wasnt cut for this role)
2nd Tell me,How many GREAT clubs possess a 37 yr old central defender who plays week in week, for the entire 90min?
Blanc would be PERFECT if he played as a sweeper in a 3-5-2 formation . But he can easily be outpaced in a flat 4 defense.
I repeat it again, BLANC IS A GOOD DEFENDER.Yet in a flat 4 defense where the offside trap is continually used (This means lots of cordination AND pace), O Shea, W Brown and G Neville are better options
And to those who insult PLSS do not confirm your STUPIDITY
Have a nice weekend BTW and cu next Monday
Comeon ENGLAND, our boys will make us proud</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well thought out
Sorry but i DO NOT AGREE A WORD with you
And i tell you why
2 years ago Man utd under Jaap Stam did performed well and brought in some precous silverware
Last year sir alex wanted a new leader in the defense and sold Stam to bring in Blanc. Our defense played crap for all season. Now
1 Our defenders had suddenly became crap
2 Those midfielders whose role was to defend had suddenly turned bonkers ( was it Keano or Butty's fault)
3 The new leader which was brought wasnt good enough.
Sorry but i dont see Blanc as cut for the Premiership. He is easily outpaced in every counter attack and this had been focused by many critics in England,France and Italy.
With Rio Ferdinard and John O Shea Manutd had brought the solidity needed at our backline. Nowadays no one has yet pointed out that our midfield havent defended well or any sort of this crap.
Next year we will witness an even stronger defense and this will prove that I was right that Blanc role was far away from playing football.
O Shea is a world class defender and we are keeping him out by a has been. If we play players just for the name why dont we recall Best Charlton and Pallister too?
Btw i want to remind you that Blanc had snubbed United for 4 times and that he came at OT rather then playing with Inter Milan's reserves.
And i tell you why
2 years ago Man utd under Jaap Stam did performed well and brought in some precous silverware
Last year sir alex wanted a new leader in the defense and sold Stam to bring in Blanc. Our defense played crap for all season. Now
1 Our defenders had suddenly became crap
2 Those midfielders whose role was to defend had suddenly turned bonkers ( was it Keano or Butty's fault)
3 The new leader which was brought wasnt good enough.
Sorry but i dont see Blanc as cut for the Premiership. He is easily outpaced in every counter attack and this had been focused by many critics in England,France and Italy.
With Rio Ferdinard and John O Shea Manutd had brought the solidity needed at our backline. Nowadays no one has yet pointed out that our midfield havent defended well or any sort of this crap.
Next year we will witness an even stronger defense and this will prove that I was right that Blanc role was far away from playing football.
O Shea is a world class defender and we are keeping him out by a has been. If we play players just for the name why dont we recall Best Charlton and Pallister too?
Btw i want to remind you that Blanc had snubbed United for 4 times and that he came at OT rather then playing with Inter Milan's reserves.
BTW those 3 where choices I mean
Last year sir alex wanted a new leader in the defense and sold Stam to bring in Blanc. Our defense played crap for all season. Now EITHER
1 Our defenders had suddenly became crap
2 Those midfielders whose role was to defend had suddenly turned bonkers ( was it Keano or Butty's fault)
3 The new leader which was brought wasnt good enough
Last year sir alex wanted a new leader in the defense and sold Stam to bring in Blanc. Our defense played crap for all season. Now EITHER
1 Our defenders had suddenly became crap
2 Those midfielders whose role was to defend had suddenly turned bonkers ( was it Keano or Butty's fault)
3 The new leader which was brought wasnt good enough
BUT! In england the players are not as tactical.
Wrong, in England we possess some of the best strikers in England ( Van nistelrooy, Henry, Owen and Hassenbaink) and secondly to call great managers like Sir Alex and Wenger as not tactical is an insult
As for the question of great clubs with ageing centerhalves, We were beaten last season by a La Coruna side with a 40-year old Donato in defenve. I know, they are not a great side really. Just Spanish cup holders and league runners up.
Spanish Football is slower than the english football and Adams played more as a sweeper in a 4-4-2 formation (btw ADAMS didnt played much last yr.)
2nd Tell me,How many GREAT clubs possess a 37 yr old central defender who plays week in week, for the entire 90min?
Manchester United
What's that got to do with anything
Because nowadays with the fifa regulations a defender cannot afford to be outpaced. (Remember that obstuction and a tackle from the back is outlawed nowadays)
Wrong, in England we possess some of the best strikers in England ( Van nistelrooy, Henry, Owen and Hassenbaink) and secondly to call great managers like Sir Alex and Wenger as not tactical is an insult
As for the question of great clubs with ageing centerhalves, We were beaten last season by a La Coruna side with a 40-year old Donato in defenve. I know, they are not a great side really. Just Spanish cup holders and league runners up.
Spanish Football is slower than the english football and Adams played more as a sweeper in a 4-4-2 formation (btw ADAMS didnt played much last yr.)
2nd Tell me,How many GREAT clubs possess a 37 yr old central defender who plays week in week, for the entire 90min?
Manchester United
What's that got to do with anything
Because nowadays with the fifa regulations a defender cannot afford to be outpaced. (Remember that obstuction and a tackle from the back is outlawed nowadays)
I think I will go with number 2. The Defensive midfielder has gone bonker. And I'm only referring to Keane. Since he has been injured we haven't lost a single game. Surprise?
OH Comeon Keano had been Last season Manutd's best player. Believe me if Keano can stay out of trouble he is the best player in his position
OH Comeon Keano had been Last season Manutd's best player. Believe me if Keano can stay out of trouble he is the best player in his position
Sorry lad. You keep on talking theoretical stuff. They may all sound smart and all that.
But they do not hold in the reality test! And the reality is Blanc has been superb!
But they do not hold in the reality test! And the reality is Blanc has been superb!
You want prove
I already given you westbrom's havent I
You want more
OK
Where was Blanc during Kewell goal last season?????
I guess our World class leader was trying hard to return from a counter attack but as usual he didnt manage to come in time.
I can remind you a couple of blunders Before he came to OT
Inter against Milan the last season before coming at OT.
he constantly pushed himself forward making it easily to be then outpaced by shevcenko in a counter attack. Cuper later pointed on this blunder as the main reason why he let Blanc go.
Respected critics like Hector Cuper,Fabio Capello and Van Gaal have seen this weaknesses in Blanc so I am in good company.
If Blanc stays fixed in the back then there is no prob, he has the brain to compensate for his lack of pace. Yet Blanc like to go forward and this is proving fatal for Manutd.
I already given you westbrom's havent I
You want more
OK
Where was Blanc during Kewell goal last season?????
I guess our World class leader was trying hard to return from a counter attack but as usual he didnt manage to come in time.
I can remind you a couple of blunders Before he came to OT
Inter against Milan the last season before coming at OT.
he constantly pushed himself forward making it easily to be then outpaced by shevcenko in a counter attack. Cuper later pointed on this blunder as the main reason why he let Blanc go.
Respected critics like Hector Cuper,Fabio Capello and Van Gaal have seen this weaknesses in Blanc so I am in good company.
If Blanc stays fixed in the back then there is no prob, he has the brain to compensate for his lack of pace. Yet Blanc like to go forward and this is proving fatal for Manutd.
Fatal <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> How many goals have we conceded this season?
I don't care what titleless Cuper says. Or one-club-success Van Gaal. I only care about what Sir Alex Ferguson says.
No doubt, Blanc is all in fault for Kewell's goal Our entire defence went walkabout for that one. O'Shea let the player cross it and no one covered Kewell.
I don't care what titleless Cuper says. Or one-club-success Van Gaal. I only care about what Sir Alex Ferguson says.
No doubt, Blanc is all in fault for Kewell's goal
Our entire defence went walkabout for that one. O'Shea let the player cross it and no one covered Kewell.Think Blanc has been good for Utd. But all you lot are looking at is on pitch performances. In training where the grafting and hard work is done Blanc is likely to have taught O'Shea loads and its always good to have a world cup winning class defender in the side he just gives the setup more confidence. While you have had a leaky defence in recent times it has also been a turbulent time for the defence losing Stam through sale, Neville through injury, Irwin a great consistent player and bringing in Rio, Blanc and O'Shea its virtually a new back4 which will take time to settle.
Sorry last should have been this season
And btw respect
How can i show respect to a person who had snubbed us for 4 times?
I mean he preferred Barcelona, Inter and NAPOLI (then struggling to stay in the serie A)rather than coming at OT
Cant you see that he came at OT rather than playing with Inter Milan reserves?
I am not against mercenaries but i wouldnt think it twice to dump them when i have better talent.
And that talent is now available
His name John O SHEA
And btw respect
How can i show respect to a person who had snubbed us for 4 times?
I mean he preferred Barcelona, Inter and NAPOLI (then struggling to stay in the serie A)rather than coming at OT
Cant you see that he came at OT rather than playing with Inter Milan reserves?
I am not against mercenaries but i wouldnt think it twice to dump them when i have better talent.
And that talent is now available
His name John O SHEA
No doubt, Blanc is all in fault for Kewell's goal Our entire defence went walkabout for that one. O'Shea let the player cross it and no one covered Kewell.
Just asking where was Blanc during the goal?????
After all he is the experienced leader isnt it.
And btw goals were fatal last season and are fatal now because it means that it will give Arsenal more chance to strenghten thier position as leaders of the league.
Remeber a goal can mean drawing or losing a game
Just asking where was Blanc during the goal?????
After all he is the experienced leader isnt it.
And btw goals were fatal last season and are fatal now because it means that it will give Arsenal more chance to strenghten thier position as leaders of the league.
Remeber a goal can mean drawing or losing a game
Blanc was at fault for kewells goal because it is inevitable that some crosses will get in the box the centre halfs must keep tight to their men and make headers difficult. Blanc let Kewell go and if you look Kewell has about 3 yards of space in the penalty area. You have to fault the centre half!!!!! While O'Shea could have cut the cross out you are looking at the set piece expert in Ian Harte and you cant cut out every cross!!!! But shit happens O'Shea is the future but he's not quite ready next season after a learning season this year he will be 1st choice!!!
Devilish:
You clearly haven't been to any matches.
Ask anyone who goes to the matches. Blanc is a majestic defender. He has formed excellent partnerships with Rio and O'Shea, already -- that is why our defence is now the second tightest in the league (behind Middlesboro), and has allowed us to grind out 1-0 victories when the strikers aren't playing well.
Blanc is simple, straightforward and rarely makes a mistake. He wins almost every challenge he makes.
He is slow, but his game is not about speed. Neither is Sami Hyppia's. Neither was Baresi's. Neither was Steve Bruce's.
Watch Blanc play, and then come back to us with your comments.
You clearly haven't been to any matches.
Ask anyone who goes to the matches. Blanc is a majestic defender. He has formed excellent partnerships with Rio and O'Shea, already -- that is why our defence is now the second tightest in the league (behind Middlesboro), and has allowed us to grind out 1-0 victories when the strikers aren't playing well.
Blanc is simple, straightforward and rarely makes a mistake. He wins almost every challenge he makes.
He is slow, but his game is not about speed. Neither is Sami Hyppia's. Neither was Baresi's. Neither was Steve Bruce's.
Watch Blanc play, and then come back to us with your comments.
Yes he was with another club, but we put bids in for him the club accepted but he rejected. Thats a snub