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Blaise Matuidi
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Looks like the Schneiderlin fanboys and Kante obsessives can relax.
Still saner choice than Diarra.
FFS, nearly burst out laughing at work.
I just love talking when I'm having sex.
This was a bit random and out of the blue....... cant see why he would be allowed to fly/get train to England though in the middle of a tournament for the sake of a few days.
If Emery favors a 4231 as expected we will have too many players in midfield with Verratti, Krychowiak, Matuidi, Motta, Rabiot and Stambouli for 2 positions.
It would make sense for him to leave for a last challenge at 29 as he has 2 years of contract left. He is a true Parisian and our French mascot though so I don't think we will be in a hurry to ship him out.
It would make sense for him to leave for a last challenge at 29 as he has 2 years of contract left. He is a true Parisian and our French mascot though so I don't think we will be in a hurry to ship him out.
Il Gufetto has a problem with that, he doesnt want to leave!Then sell Verratti to us, no problem with that
Who's most likely to play in the number 10 position for PSG? Or could any of the midfielders you mentioned play there?
Given the name of his agent, everything is possible regarding Matuidi.
According to some articles, James Rodriguez is targeted. Otherwise, Pastore, Ben Arfa.
According to some articles, James Rodriguez is targeted. Otherwise, Pastore, Ben Arfa.
Pastore, Ben Arfa, Lo Celso who's supposed to come in January. Or even another one if we recuit someone like James. Di Maria could also put a shift here and it would probably be the best position for Nkunku from the academy.
We aren't short of options here.
Rather just get Pogba. Don't see where he fits in.
Wouldn't be too keen on him now... A few years ago he would've been really good here but a bit too late now as he'll be turning 30 later in the season. Would 100x prefer Kante anyway.
Exactly, that's why I listed 6 players just for one position that may not even exist in the system we play next season!Let's be honest. Only Unai Emery himself knows his plans
Exactly, that's why I listed 6 players just for one position that may not even exist in the system we play next season!
The reality is he will use different tactical systems depending the opposing team, the injuries, his feelings, the weather...
The opposite of Laurent Blanc.The PSG fans i know want him gone. ~40 mil. and they would be laughing all their way to the bank, please, for the love of god, don't do it!
#Matuidi has not left Clairefontaine this morning to return to England. He has not budged from Clairefontaine. #FRA
The weakest of the French contingent that starts in their midfield (himself, Pogba and Kante) although the other two are obviously excellent, I'd rather we not touch Matuidi even though he's a decent player. Not sure that mould of midfielder - box-to-box, ball-carrying midfielder - is exactly what we need.
Would much, much prefer Kante as we lack that type of midfielder in the squad. Whereas, we have someone in the box-to-box capacity with Schneiderlin who, albeit defensive-minded, could come on leaps and bounds under Jose. Not sure Pogba is exactly what we require in midfield as it'll make us more unbalanced, but it's difficult to turn up the opportunity signing someone like him.
Would much, much prefer Kante as we lack that type of midfielder in the squad. Whereas, we have someone in the box-to-box capacity with Schneiderlin who, albeit defensive-minded, could come on leaps and bounds under Jose. Not sure Pogba is exactly what we require in midfield as it'll make us more unbalanced, but it's difficult to turn up the opportunity signing someone like him.
I thought people would be more excited. Always thought highly of him myself.
Don't know why people would be against signing Matuidi, he's a great player.
Excellent player. Like French Fletcher, where he shines in big games, and still very decent in other games.
Don't see it happening though as he himself was quoted saying this is bs.
We don't have a ball carrying central midfielder last season. Our best was Mata, Bastian, Fellaini, Lingard, Rooney, Carrick, who moves as snail pace. Ended up over reliant on Martial to make something happen on the wing or boot it high for Felaini to chest it down (ironically people complain about hoof all to Felaini too as well as no need for ball carrying central midfielder).
Watching all France games this summer (from the preparation games), Kante is the weakest link (using your own word. I didn't mean to use this term). He is supposedly the defensive sub for Matuidi(!) who is better offensive (has the Fletcher effect). Lassana Diarra is their best deep lying defensive midfielder, Makelele' role to allow 5 upfield players the freedom to attack. With Lassana Diarra's injury, Kante is experimented in his role. He was fine for few first games, but seemed to be the problem which prevents Matuidi and Pogba to perform to their best. Why? Kante is all action players. Experienced deep lying defensive midfielder should hold their position better and plays simple passes. Kante relies on his stamina, running power leading to he steps on Matuidi and Pogba foots. Pogba and Matuidi space is restricted by their own teammate! Ever since Kante was hooked in the Ireland game Pogba and Matuidi stepped up. The former is bossing the midfield, while the latter while being less shiny, has stepped up a gear (Matuidi is a player for big game, so he may not be as impressive in smaller game). People may say it's only Ireland and Iceland, so let the time tell. As the moment Kante is the prime suspect in messing the flow of France fluid attacking play. If anything Kante is the hardest of the 3 to be employed by team. It's harder to struck a perfect balance with Kante due to his style and skillset than Pogba and Matuidi.
Don't see it happening though as he himself was quoted saying this is bs.
Disagree almost with all the point made in this post.
We don't have a ball carrying central midfielder last season. Our best was Mata, Bastian, Fellaini, Lingard, Rooney, Carrick, who moves as snail pace. Ended up over reliant on Martial to make something happen on the wing or boot it high for Felaini to chest it down (ironically people complain about hoof all to Felaini too as well as no need for ball carrying central midfielder).
Watching all France games this summer (from the preparation games), Kante is the weakest link (using your own word. I didn't mean to use this term). He is supposedly the defensive sub for Matuidi(!) who is better offensive (has the Fletcher effect). Lassana Diarra is their best deep lying defensive midfielder, Makelele' role to allow 5 upfield players the freedom to attack. With Lassana Diarra's injury, Kante is experimented in his role. He was fine for few first games, but seemed to be the problem which prevents Matuidi and Pogba to perform to their best. Why? Kante is all action players. Experienced deep lying defensive midfielder should hold their position better and plays simple passes. Kante relies on his stamina, running power leading to he steps on Matuidi and Pogba foots. Pogba and Matuidi space is restricted by their own teammate! Ever since Kante was hooked in the Ireland game Pogba and Matuidi stepped up. The former is bossing the midfield, while the latter while being less shiny, has stepped up a gear (Matuidi is a player for big game, so he may not be as impressive in smaller game). People may say it's only Ireland and Iceland, so let the time tell. As the moment Kante is the prime suspect in messing the flow of France fluid attacking play. If anything Kante is the hardest of the 3 to be employed by team. It's harder to struck a perfect balance with Kante due to his style and skillset than Pogba and Matuidi.
I never said we have a ball-carrying midfielder in the side because we don't. I said we have a box-to-box midfielder in the form of Schneiderlin and I don't think pairing him with Matuidi would be a good idea. Good player for sure, but at 29 I'd rather we looked at other options.
I don't really know why Schneiderlin is so highly rated after a very poor season. It's very plausible Mourinho doesn't rate him either, and the fairly common notion that he'd thrive under Mourinho may be as inaccurate as Cleverley under Van Gaal. (Not comparing abilities here, simply the analogy).
Can Matuidi operate successfully as the no.6 in a three man midfield? Has he ever done so? @Downcast @BBRBB
Can Matuidi operate successfully as the no.6 in a three man midfield? Has he ever done so? @Downcast @BBRBB
If everyone was just judged on one seasons form, we wouldn't have Jose as our manager.
The rumor is killed, so no need to bring up the age argument, just assess player for what he's. You made a different point on the matter in your 2 posts. I disagree on what the points in your original. That's all.
Schneiderlin has his strong point in breaking up play. IMO, he is a sane version of Gattuso, whose main focus is breaking up play and allowed the license to roam and drift out of his position.
Milan classic midfield with Gatusso
-----------Kaka
Seedorf
--------Pirlo Gatusso
For Gatusso to work, they have a deep lying playmaker in Pirlo from deep who is silky and can dribble/pass out of trouble. Seedorf's all round very good, strong on ball (one of the best ball shielder I ever seen). His role my own description is filling in tactical what is missing, balance provider: need an outlet to pass out? he's there. Need number to overload, he is there. Need more number to defend? he's there. Need a help to dictate game from deep? He's there. Need to track runner? He's there. Need ball carrying? He's there... Kaka being Kaka, the main attacking outlet with his dribbling burst through middle, shooting, final ball... With that Gattuso's main job is focusing on breaking up play, sometimes man marking, to cover for Pirlo style. Anything else is bonus, not strictly required (not that he's useless in passing or on ball, but he is inconsistent to be a traditional holding midfielder)
So with that in mind, Schneiderlin, Gatusso style (role, not solely attribute) may not suit many tactics which limits the starting XI midfield option. However, if you shut off shop and have solid midfield, his style if being use correctly would be huge additional as his style suit man marking attacker who drift around. His best games for us or Southampton used to be against the like of a Yaya Toure (Man City), Barkley(Everton), vs us in LVG first season with Di Maria, Rooney, Herrera operating in this area...
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I agree, can't believe people want to give Schneiderlin more time rather than sign someone who is clearly better and actually starts for France.
He used to be a pure DM destroyer for Troyes and ASSE but he was turned into a B2B by Ancellotti and never played as a 6 since then.
I can see him as an all action player in a double pivot midfield or B2B in 3 man midfield but he has virtually no experience at the highest level as the n°6 in a 3 man midfield and he doesn't fit the modern profile of a DLP for the position in top clubs.
You uh sure about that?
I see, thanks.
In France, there is a consensus to say Matuidi is better than Schneiderlin. Deschamps - former defensive midfielder - has always considered Matuidi as a key player while Schneiderlin is part of the France squad for the Euro only because Lassana Diarra is injured.
Matuidi really likes to defend and break opposing attacks: he was brilliant with PSG 4 years ago in a 4-4-2 system (like he played with France against Iceland). Now, if you're looking for a no.6 in a 3 man midfield, then the best option - regarding French players - could be Lassana Diarra because Matuidi has relatively limited passing skills & read of the game compared to the other world-class defensive midfielders (Busquets, Xabi Alonso, Pirlo...).
Matuidi would make sense for you if
- he plays like he did with PSG and... Ibrahimovic: a left box-to-box.
- you play in a 4-4-2 or a 4-2-1-3 system
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No this makes a lot more sense then Pogba. Proper box to box player.
We already have two CM's that play the same game as him, we have no one that can do what Pogba can do.
Who?
Herrera and Schneiderlin play the same energetic box to box game.
Not a bad player by any means.
But still would much rather have.... Pogba or Veratti.
Wouldnt also mind Schneiderlin getting a solid go under Jose.
But would not bemoan Matuidi in a United shirt at all.
But still would much rather have.... Pogba or Veratti.
Wouldnt also mind Schneiderlin getting a solid go under Jose.
But would not bemoan Matuidi in a United shirt at all.
Not well though.