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Slow their run up. Keeper dominated 6 yard. Concede fewer than 12 corners
With VAR's lower thresholds for intervening, exaggerating blocking offences in the box like this is the way to do it. Get all the players to kick off at the apparent huge injustice. Now VAR will feel obliged to review, and then the ref will watch the block in slow motion and rule out the goal.Fall like you've been shot
I'm convinced the ref would blow if we did the sameManagers publically calling out their antics would be a start.
Otherwise keepers just need to go for the ball and more players need to go down when they’re being held and impeded. Arsenal are using the dark arts and playing nice is not the way to counter it.
I think some version of this is the answer, along with have your keeper be very aggressive on the ball coming in. Just sitting there and letting them come crashing in creating a clusterfeck of players and the ball 3 yards from the goal is asking to concede.Just stand in a line and block their runs. It’s really easy. Have 6/7 players line up at the back post and face the ball, let them run in to you and see what happens. The defenders are not obliged to move to someone runs at them from behind
A question for the goalies in this thread. I know the deliveries are wicked but if they are that close to the goal should the keeper not be trying to claim them all? Or is it because he's being blocked off too?
....with shields and spears.Line up on the opposite side and charge bulldog style. May result in the occasional penalty.
You'll have to buy Rice and Saka up. The delivery is 90% of the job and both of them are doing a brilliant job, the corners are like missiles and would likely end up in the goal even without a bunch of 6.3 players attacking them. In fact, one of the corners almost ended up in the goal off a defender. They just need a touch.
Whats Arsenal's conversion rate this season out of interest?A lot of good posts already, especially about the quality of delivery. The one thing I'd add there is that Arsenal only does in-swingers. There is a very clear philosophy that the most dangerous corner is a driven or whipped inswinger and it makes total sense. The ball is already moving toward the goal so it needs less of a touch, its much easier to land this kind of corner close to the goal, and you also create the possibility of the ball going in directly, giving the keeper another thing to worry about. While inswingers are probably more popular for every side in general, it amazes me how many teams continue to take a fair number of outswinging corners, often because they have one player as their corner taker and he takes them from both sides.
I think the most interesting thing about Arsenal's strategy is that its in some ways a tactical answer to two broader trends in the game. First is a philosophy of defending, somewhat in response to the trend toward positional play sides with inverted wingers, that is premised on packing the middle of the pitch to force the ball out wide and then fullbacks taught to show their wingers down the line rather than letting them cut inside. The whole idea is that if you can cover the cutbacks lanes and angles, you can very much live with situations in which a winger simply crosses on his weak foot or you concede a corner, which has historically been only like a 3% chance to score in aggregate across the PL. But if the attacking team can get really good at corners while not sacrificing their ability to get into the final third regularly against most opponents in general, they put other sides into a big dilemma.
The second is the spread of ball playing GKs. Its just very hard to find a GK who can play with his feet at an elite level, is a good shot stopper, AND really can command his area. A lot of teams who are bent on trying to play in possession end up sacrificing the third quality under the assumption that they will dominate possession enough, or keep the ball away from their own area via a high press often enough, that commanding the area won't be required that often - I think Onana, Ederson, and Vicario are all examples from big clubs but you can also point to GKs like Meslier, Kepa, Pickford, etc. A lot of PL keepers are weak in the air these days, you don't have that many 6'4 or 6'5 behemoths who can fight through traffic and punch or catch anything put within their reach. So if you can just keep whipping corners right into a congested six yard box against these GKs, you're in business. Arsenal are certainly not the only side trying to take advantage of this trend, they've just been the most successful so far.
I really dont think you can. There's so much movement, so much pushing and blocking that's deemed within the rules, so many people packed into the 6 yard box. I think its kind of up to VAR to be honest. I think if you watched back all their corners against us with a few replays half of them would result in a free out (including their first goal). We'd have probably conceded a couple of penalties too to be fair.issue only with the man marking is the ref HAS to watch the blocking and pushing that arsenal have built into their attacking movements
no they aren't....they are putting the ball right on the keeper and getting bodies in there to make it tough for the keeper to get to the ballWhats Arsenal's conversion rate this season out of interest?
I really dont think you can. There's so much movement, so much pushing and blocking that's deemed within the rules, so many people packed into the 6 yard box. I think its kind of up to VAR to be honest. I think if you watched back all their corners against us with a few replays half of them would result in a free out (including their first goal). We'd have probably conceded a couple of penalties too to be fair.
I'm not sure they're doing anything that special. Good delivery, a few guys who are good in the air and just a bit of determination, confidence and momentum. Its been disregarded for a while and teams aren't particularly well equipped for it.
I really dont think you can. There's so much movement, so much pushing and blocking that's deemed within the rules, so many people packed into the 6 yard box. I think its kind of up to VAR to be honest. I think if you watched back all their corners against us with a few replays half of them would result in a free out (including their first goal). We'd have probably conceded a couple of penalties too to be fair.
I'm not sure they're doing anything that special. Good delivery, a few guys who are good in the air and just a bit of determination, confidence and momentum. Its been disregarded for a while and teams aren't particularly well equipped for it.
6% (premier league average is under 3%)Whats Arsenal's conversion rate this season out of interest?
6% (premier league average is under 3%)
The same as Leicester and.... Man Utd!
Then we end up with no center backs at allSign an 8 feet tall monster gk who comes out to collect high balls with an attitude of "either i get the ball or decapitate these feckers". Basically an 8 feet tall Neuer
When attackers are too scared of getting literally crippled by the psychotic unhinged maniac in goal, they'll stop attacking and you don't need center backs. Smort. Bayern/Germany should have leaned heavier into Neuer's inner Harald SchumacherThen we end up with no center backs at all
We had one in goal playing Sunday League he would tell everyone they will cop it if they are in the way so we didn't botherWhen attackers are too scared of getting literally crippled by the psychotic unhinged maniac in goal, they'll stop attacking and you don't need center backs. Smort. Bayern/Germany should have leaned heavier into Neuer's inner Harald Schumacher
Of course they can.But you only do it when the ball is dead, referee will step in to break it, it slows it down, disrupts their movement and their players lose focus.
Referee can't give a foul against you for it when the ball is dead.