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Berbatov is exactly what United need. A little height and a true goal scorer with EPL and Bundesliga experience. He also has a air of Teddy Sheringham about him when he drops deep and becomes the provider.
 
Would this move have happened under the PLC reign?

Of course. We used to pull off big (sometimes record) buys quite regularly as a Plc (certainly more than we've done under the Glazers) - Pallister, Keane, Cole, Veron, Rio, Rooney...

If there's one myth that's been put to bed over the past few weeks it's the idea that under the Glazers transfers go smoothly. Our haggling over the price of Berbatov nearly cost us the player (although no-one could have predicted the City interest that eventually meant we had to meet Spurs's asking price).
 
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Remember that Spurs only have Bent and Pavlyuchenko except for Campbell. And Juande Ramos prefers 4-4-2. We'll see Campbell get his fair share of games, that I'm sure of. As a substitute, or a starter when either of them are out injured.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. I think he'll stick with 4-2-3-1 for most of the season.
 
Alex Ferguson pulls out all stops after United leave it late for Dimitar Berbatov move

Pavlyuchenko deal buried amid the confusion

Gary Jacob

Tottenham Hotspur were locked in a day of claim and counterclaim as Manchester United attempted to seal the transfer of Dimitar Berbatov. The Bulgaria forward was left in limbo last night, hoping to complete his dream move to Old Trafford. As the clock ticked past midnight, United had not reached an agreement with Tottenham about the purchase of the forward.
If Berbatov’s whereabouts were unknown when he was “not in the right frame of mind” to play in Tottenham’s 1-1 draw away to Chelsea on Sunday, then it became clearer yesterday morning when he landed in Manchester, supposedly to meet United. Or, was it their fierce rivals, City?
City were suddenly flushed with money - after a group of Abu Dhabi investors made a bid for the club - and were making offers for some of the best attacking players in the world. Tottenham, so reluctant to sell Berbatov to United anyway, were quick to accept City’s £32.5million offer.
Would Berbatov be persuaded to dash his dream of playing and winning titles with United by the inevitable pots of cash on offer from a to move to City? Among the wild rumours whirling around yesterday, Sir Alex Ferguson, the United manager, was forced to hijack the City welcoming committee, which had been sent to meet Berbatov at the airport.

Berbatov was whisked to United’s Carrington training complex - near where City train - to meet Ferguson.
As it emerged that Berbatov may have been having a medical, Tottenham, who were striving for information about the whereabouts of their player, were getting increasingly hot under the collar. They claimed that United had not been given permission to talk to the forward, because no bid had been accepted. Tottenham had turned down United’s £25million offer two weeks ago.
Tottenham then threatened action against United for an alleged “tap-ping-up”, having made a formal complaint to the Premier League in July about their pursuit of the player. They also threatened legal action for United scuppering Tottenham’s chances of selling Berbatov to City.
Amid all of this, Tottenham were trying to recuit another forward. They offered £10million for Carlton Cole, of West Ham United, after their interest in Emile Heskey, of Wigan Athletic, came to nothing. Wigan are trying to sign Mido to release Heskey for sale but Middlesbrough are not budging. Tottenham first tried to sign Cole when he was at Chelseas, but West Ham are asking for more than £12million for the forward.
Tottenham had began the last day of the summer transfer window by completing deals to sign Roman Pavlyuchenko and Vedran Corluka. The Russia forward, who signed a five-year contract, cost £14 million from Spartak Moscow. He was England’s nemesis with two goals in the crucial Euro 2008 qualifying game in Moscow last year.
Pavlyuchenko, who has made 22 appearances for Russia, began his career with Dynamo Stavropol before moving to Rotor Volgograd in the top flight. The 6ft 3in striker signed for Spartak Moscow in 2003 and was the leading goalscorer in Russia’s top league in the past two seasons. Tottenham bought Corluka from Manchester City for £8.5 million. The Croatia right back signed a six-year contract and will link up with his best friend, Luka Modric, the midfield player.
“I am delighted to be here because I am coming to a big club with great players, great ambition,” Corluka said.
The Croatia defender was used at right back by Manchester City last season, but Tottenham believe that he can replace Ledley King in the long term as a central-defensive partner for Jonathan Woodgate. Tottenham have been looking at more than one centre back because of fitness concerns about King and the erratic form of Michael Dawson last season.

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So basically we broke the British transfer record to sign Berbatov, ignoring the fact that City simultaneously broke that record as well.

It's hard to believe that he's cost over 50% more than Ruud van Nistelrooy.
 
If there's one myth that's been put to bed over the past few weeks it's the idea that under the Glazers transfers go smoothly. Our haggling over the price of Berbatov nearly cost us the player...

Weren't we told that the 'haggling' came from an agreed joint position between the board, SAF etc. - and was more to do with refusing to be over-exploited?
 
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Dimitar Berbatov is a classy and complete centre-forward, pairing the ability to ruthlessly and regularly find the net inside the box with the aptitude to create moments of sheer magic outside it.

Sir Alex likes players with plenty of charisma in the way they play, and the Bulgarian’s languid style is instantly recognisable on the field. It’s also an approach that has drawn comparisons with former United talisman Eric Cantona. Like the captivating Frenchman, Berbatov loves to entertain with the ball at his feet. United fans are in for a real treat with the Bulgarian in a United shirt in attack alongside Wayne Rooney, Carlos Tevez, Cristiano Ronaldo et al.

Berbatov started out at Bulgarian side CSKA Sofia. He joined The Armymen aged 17, following in the footsteps of his father, Ivan, who also played for the club. After making his debut aged 18 in the 1998/99 campaign, he went on to score 14 goals in 27 league matches the following season.

His talent quickly attracted attention from Bundesliga club Bayer Leverkusen, who made their move for the Bulgarian front man in January 2001 after an impressive start to the season for CSKA. Berbatov – national team captain and Bulgarian Player of the Year in 2002, 2004, 2005 and 2007 – made a slow start to his time in Germany, but he regularly shone in the Champions League, scoring a spectacular solo goal against Lyon and also finding the net against Liverpool (already he’s in favour).

The only blot on his copybook is that he was part of the Leverkusen team that knocked United out of the Champions League semi finals in April 2002. He came on as a substitute in the final as the Germans lost 2-1 to Real Madrid in Glasgow.

Berbatov was eventually lured to the Premier League when Tottenham signed him in July 2006 for a reported £10.9million fee. He was an instant hit at White Hart Lane, scoring his first competitive goal two minutes into his home Premier League debut against Sheffield United. He went on to score 23 goals in his opening season, which he matched again in 2007/08, a campaign which saw him voted Fans' Player of the Year.

However, after months of speculation linking him with a move to Old Trafford in the summer of 2008, Sir Alex Ferguson finally got his man on transfer deadline day with just minutes to go. The Bulgarian signed a four-year contract on 1 September 2008 for an undisclosed fee, with Fraizer Campbell heading to White Hart Lane on a season-long loan as part of the deal.
 
If there's one myth that's been put to bed over the past few weeks it's the idea that under the Glazers transfers go smoothly. Our haggling over the price of Berbatov nearly cost us the player (although no-one could have predicted the City interest that eventually meant we had to meet Spurs's asking price).

I have to disagree mate. IMO we would have signed him weeks ago if not for spurs lodging complaints . But yes under glazers we are trying as hard as possible to balance that books thats for sure. Lot of outbound activity since they bought the club.
 
I wouldn't be so sure of that. I think he'll stick with 4-2-3-1 for most of the season.
He won everything for Sevilla with 4-4-2, and preferred it with Keane and Berbatov. He just had too much quality upfront and too little in the middle in Tottenham as well. That hasn't really changed that much.
 
Remember that Spurs only have Bent and Pavlyuchenko except for Campbell. And Juande Ramos prefers 4-4-2. We'll see Campbell get his fair share of games, that I'm sure of. As a substitute, or a starter when either of them are out injured.

Yeah but we had been holding out for so long i would have thought that was because we were negotiating a cut price, had we stumped up 30 million a weeks ago or even back to a year we would have had him.
We could have then chosen Campbell destination.
As I said i will wait for more info to be released, i reckon a lot of that fee are add-ons.
 
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a bit pricey but spurs will hopefully give campbell a good few games and i'm sure we'll with trophies with berbatov so it all pays for itself. what a day
 
Of course. We used to pull off big (sometimes record) buys quite regularly as a Plc (certainly more than we've done under the Glazers) - Pallister, Keane, Cole, Veron, Rio, Rooney...

If there's one myth that's been put to bed over the past few weeks it's the idea that under the Glazers transfers go smoothly. Our haggling over the price of Berbatov nearly cost us the player (although no-one could have predicted the City interest that eventually meant we had to meet Spurs's asking price).

Ralphie, your constant changes of position to find something new to be cross about is laughable.
 
I'm very glad we've got him, but I won't apologise for my earlier statements in this thread. At the time I genuinly felt that there were better options available. That I now realise there probably weren't won't make me regret saying the things I did.

Still, I'm dead chuffed. I'll sleep well tonight. :D
 
He won everything for Sevilla with 4-4-2, and preferred it with Keane and Berbatov. He just had too much quality upfront and too little in the middle in Tottenham as well. That hasn't really changed that much.

That's just because it suited his team. He did well with Saviola up front in a 4-2-3-1 just before they signed Kanoute who changed everything really.

I think he'll go for 4-2-3-1 with Spurs, both Bent and Pavlyuchenko like playing up top on their own, and have proven themselves in that position.
 
It's for moments like this that I love the cafe.

Anyways, as he started this epic thread (with, may I add, quite possibly the most ironic comment in the history of the cafe) I think it's only right that he ends it, so Gus, take it away....
 
Of course. We used to pull off big (sometimes record) buys quite regularly as a Plc (certainly more than we've done under the Glazers) - Pallister, Keane, Cole, Veron, Rio, Rooney...

If there's one myth that's been put to bed over the past few weeks it's the idea that under the Glazers transfers go smoothly. Our haggling over the price of Berbatov nearly cost us the player (although no-one could have predicted the City interest that eventually meant we had to meet Spurs's asking price).

And how many players were lost under the tight PLC reign... how about Batistuta... how about Rivaldo... ffs, the PLC preferred Bosnich to Toldo and VDS because the former wouldn't cost a transfer fee. Keane forced the PLC to open up the wage structure and then you get the Veron and Ruud signings followed by Rio, Rooney, etc.
 
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