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Come now, it doesn't take too long to skip thro all the posts....I do it every day in a couple of minutes.
That's quite a weird argument - I'm merely stating my opinion here, it might not take long to skim through the pages of spam, but would I prefer not having to do so? Yes - and that's what this is about.

And as I say, if you want news then newsnow fulfills all your dreams.
This isn't about the news, do you think every single thread in the football forums only exists of news? No, I look in here for everything related to the possible transfer; it being news, reactions to news or general discussion about the entire saga.
Then I might as well turn it around and say, if you like spam then The general fulfils all your dreams.

but there have been some excellent posts all the way through.
Those excellent posts would still be here if there wasn't any spam - just look at the first half of the thread, where Pogue was active.
I come here for those "excellent posts" not for the spam, and the spam is merely like a annoying elephant I have to go around in order to find these posts.

This thread is entertaining.
To some, there are obviously some of us who don't find the "spam" entertaining - but like I've said; I've ignored it so far, as a lot of you are entertaining yourself with this thread.

You post in other threads and you'll get a reply tomorrow.
This forum is very active, and I find it very rare that you'll have to wait until the morning before getting a discussion going - and I especially not in a thread like this, which is the hottest subject right now.

And I for one would rather wait until the next day to get a responseto my than I'd see my post being flooded 3 pages back because of spam.

It's all about quality over quantity - and we apperently define quality in different ways.

What really gets me though is that folks don't have to come into the thread if they don't like the banter.
Comments like this always annoys me - this transfer interests every single United fan around the world, and we all want to follow it - this is the only thread on the forum which focuses on this transfer. So we should just stay away if we don't like how the thread is going? That's quite ignorant, and I didn't expect something like that from you.

It's obvious that we look at things differently in terms of what constitutes a good thread, and that's why I haven't said anything before Kelvin brought it up.

I still think we could please both crowds - those who like long threads filled with a lot of "spam" - and those who prefer on-topic posts.
The best way would be to have two threads, just like we had with the Tevez saga - one in the general where people can spam away with "Berba-words", and another more on-topic thread, like all the other threads in the football forum.

We are however so close to the end now that it's hardly worth doing something drastic - us who don't like the spam will just do what we've done so far which is ignore the spam posts and let you guys enjoy yourself.
 
Berba sent to Coventry


DIMITAR BERBATOV got the cold shoulder from his Spurs team-mates yesterday.

None of them spoke to the surly striker when he returned to training for the first time since being axed for Saturday’s defeat by Sunderland.

The entire Tottenham squad followed our SunSport columnist Ian Wright’s advice and sent Berba to Coventry for trying to force a move to Manchester United.

Even skipper Ledley King told his team-mates to forget about the stroppy Bulgarian and focus on beating Chelsea on Sunday.

King, who played his first game of the season in the 2-1 defeat by Roy Keane’s Black Cats, said: “This week will be about lifting the spirits and getting the buzz back around the dressing room.

“It’s been a disappointing start but now we have to pick ourselves up.

“The next game is Chelsea so we can’t feel sorry for ourselves — we have to continue to work hard.”

United offered £25million for the hitman, 27, while Spurs are holding out for £30m.

But Berba’s antics at White Hart Lane have left some Reds fans questioning the player’s attitude.

Boss Alex Ferguson hinted after Monday’s 1-0 win at Portsmouth that his squad could cope without Berbatov.

And Old Trafford legend Lou Macari said: “United players, even on a bad day, will always give their all.

“The manager demands it and that’s why I’m not so sure Berbatov is the player we want — he is not that type of player.”

Macari believes it is disgraceful the striker is not giving his all for Spurs.

The Scot, who played 400 games in an 11½-year stint at United, said: “All these excuses are being made for him at the minute, that he is not in the right frame of mind.

“I was at Middlesbrough when Spurs played there two weeks ago and they said he was not focused.

“When you’re playing professional football you get out on that pitch and you’re focused — whether you’re playing for a team you want to play for or you want to move on.

“In that game at Boro he was asked to play for 25 minutes, he moped about and sulked a bit.

“If there is anyone who can get that out of his game and keep the good side it is Alex Ferguson. But do you pay £25m plus for someone like that?”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1611187.ece
 
Lots of Pavlychenko articles around atm. They all claim that he is replacing Berbatov. This was interesting though.


Fifpro, the international union for professional footballers, yesterday confirmed that the Bulgarian could effectively buy out his contract next year.

Under Fifa rules, a player can terminate their contract after three seasons as long as it was initially agreed when he was under the age of 28. Scotland defender Andy Webster has already taken this step and, after a ruling by the Court of Arbitration for Sport, paid former club Hearts £150,000 in compensation following his move to Wigan.

This option is theoretically also open to Berbatov next year, with the expectation that he would have to fund the balance of his contract as compensation. If that happened, Tottenham would only receive around £2.5 million. Spurs, though, would inevitably fight such a move and believe that a player can only invoke the ruling if he could also show that he had not contributed to his situation.

Tottenham also believe that Berbatov would be restricted to moving to a club abroad, although he could potentially then be loaned back to an English club.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...28111/Spurs-grab-Pavlyuchenko---Football.html

Will Spurs risk losing £25 million just to prove that they are a "big" club?
 
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Come now, it doesn't take too long to skip thro all the posts....I do it every day in a couple of minutes.

That's quite a weird argument - I'm merely stating my opinion here, it might not take long to skim through the pages of spam, but would I prefer not having to do so? Yes - and that's what this is about......

....about top wanting things his way......cool.




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And as I say, if you want news then newsnow fulfills all your dreams.

This isn't about the news, do you think every single thread on here is only news or spam? No, I look in here for everything related to the possible transfer; it being news, reactions to news or general discussion about the entire saga.
Then I might as well turn it around and say, if you like spam then The general fulfils all your dreams.

....and you can't find it?

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but there have been some excellent posts all the way through.

Those excellent posts would still be here if there wasn't any spam - just look at the first half of the thread, where Pogue was active.
I come here for those "excellent posts" not for the spam, and the spam is merely like a annoying elephant I have to go around in order to find these posts.

So those people who've posted in the last few weeks since Pogue stopped have not posted excellent posts? You and pogue are the only serious posters in here then? Sorry, but that's bollox and although your gifs are brilliant I think yo8u may have eaten some bad fish tonight. You didn't get a Ramliberber in the mail by any chance did you? High opinion of yourself bro' and you've just insulted 100 posters on here. Good trick.

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This thread is entertaining.

To some, there are obviously some of us who don't find the "spam" entertaining - but like I've said; I've ignored it so far, as a lot of you are entertaining yourself with this thread.

Wanted to say " nerd springs to mind" but thought better cos I like you. ;)

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You post in other threads and you'll get a reply tomorrow.

This forum is very active, and I find it very rare that you'll have to wait until the morning before getting a discussion going - and I especially not in a thread like this, which is the hottest subject right now.

And I for one would rather wait until the next day to get a responseto my than I'd see my post being flooded 3 pages back because of spam.

It's all about quality over quantity - and we apperently define quality in different ways.

we do? This is a transfer muppet thread, and we're trying to define quality?

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What really gets me though is that folks don't have to come into the thread if they don't like the banter.

Comments like this always annoys me - sorry

this transfer interests every single United fan around the world, and we all want to follow it - this is the only thread on the forum which focuses on this transfer.......and ......and.....

So we should just stay away if we don't like how the thread is going?

Yes, that's what I'd do. But I like where this thread is going.

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That's quite ignorant, and I didn't expect something like that from you.
You don't know me


It's obvious that we look at things differently in terms of what constitutes a good thread, and that's why I haven't said anything before Kelvin brought it up. (Ramli again)

Who gives a shit if a thread "constitutes" a "good thread" (in Top's mind).

Its a thread that gets millions of views. Many of us enjoy it. And anyone can join in and make it serious whenever they want. There's been no spamming of serious posts apart from Kinky trying to spoof us but that was dealt with quickly and friendlily.

I still think we could please both crowds - those who like long threads filled with a lot of "spam" - and those who prefer on-topic posts.
The best way would be to have two threads, just like we had with the Tevez saga - one in the general where people can spam away with "Berba-words", and another more on-topic thread, like all the other threads in the football forum.

The best way, eh? Don't like the choices. We need to set up a committee. That'll do it.

We are however so clsoe to the end now that it's hardly worth doing something drastic - us who don't like the spam, will just do what we've done so far which is ignore it so that you guys can enjoy yourself.

Liar. You're going to be in here every hour just like always. ;)
 
Any new advances since yesterday after the game? I've been so busy.
Another 'Chenko going to Spurs. Does that stop the Arshavin deal? No-one seems to know. Are Spurs going to let Berbatov go now? No-one knows.
Spurs players boycott our poor berb. He's all alone in a sea of lillywhite.
Lou Macari thinks he's a cnut. But he will be our cnut.
 
Another 'Chenko going to Spurs. Does that stop the Arshavin deal? No-one seems to know. Are Spurs going to let Berbatov go now? No-one knows.
Spurs players boycott our poor berb.

Poor Berba is sad

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That was possibly the most confusing reply ever on the Caf.

So those people who've posted in the last few weeks since Pogue stopped have not posted excellent posts? You and pogue are the only serious posters in here then? Sorry, but that's bollox and although your gifs are brilliant I think yo8u may have eaten some bad fish tonight. You didn't get a Ramliberber in the mail by any chance did you? High opinion of yourself bro' and you've just insulted 100 posters on here. Good trick.
You and pogue are the only serious posters in here then? Sorry, but that's bollox
When the feck have I said that?
I've not mentioned myself in any way in this discussion when talking about the on-topic posts or any other posts - I've only mentioned myself among those who isn't keen on the spam posts, but good on you for twisting my words or simply just making stuff up, bravo.

I never said that the quality posts stopped, I just said they were now surrounded by spam posts which I had to wade through in order to find the posts which are on-topic.

The "Those excellent posts would still be here if there wasn't any spam" doesn't mean that they're gone, I'm saying, that if the spam stopped, then we would still have the quality threads we just wouldn't have to go through a lot of spam in order to find them.

Wanted to say " nerd springs to mind" but thought better cos I like you. ;)
So I'm a nerd for ignoring spam... Yeah that makes sense.

we do? This is a transfer muppet thread, and we're trying to define quality?
Taking things out of context instead of focusing on the actual meaning, great.
yes we're apparently talking about quality - you think long threads are quality, I don't - we are discussing this, thus we're discussing how we each define "quality".

You don't know me
I'm beginning to, though I can't say it's for the better.

Who gives a shit if a thread "constitutes" a "good thread" (in Top's mind).

For feck sake - that's what this whole discussion is about! I and a few other didn't like how the thread was going, thus we don't think it's a good thread - you on the other hand like it and think it's a good thread - this is what we're now currently talking about, that's the essence of this discussion, but I'm sure you'll just post some picture of a lama instead.

And what's up with the "(in Top's mind)" when the entire sentence was about how we each look at threads differently - nothing to do with how I alone look at a thread, but that won't stop you from making those stupid remarks anyway in a way to make my point look less valid - my ten year old nephew does the same thing.

The best way, eh? Don't like the choices. We need to set up a committee. That'll do it.
You're acting like child, making stupid sarcastic comments instead of actually looking at the points.
We're here talking about different opinions and then I mention a way it was sorted out the last time the same discussion took place.

Geez, you wouldn't think you are over fifty years old - seriously, look at your response to my points, you would think it was a 10 year old responding

Liar. You're going to be in here every hour just like always. ;)
A fitting end to your post; misreading what I'm saying - I said, we'll ignore the spam, not the thread.
 
That was possibly the most confusing reply ever on the Caf.

Did my best. Not got this multi-multi-quote deal figured out yet without manually inserting the (quotes) Looked quite clear to me. (No pics this time)

Oh, feck off, will you?

No. (calm down)
First of all, I never mentioned myself when I talking about the quality posts in this thread, I've only mentioned myself among those who read the posts, but good on you for twisting my words, bravo.
Who ya trying to kid. It's what you implied. It's what you're talking about here.

The "Those excellent posts would still be here if there wasn't any spam" doesn't mean that they're gone, I'm saying, that if the spam stopped, then we would still have the quality threads we just wouldn't have to go through a lot of spam in order to find them.
eh?

So I'm a nerd for ignoring spam... Yeah that makes sense.
I thought I left that out? Oh, never mind
......not for ignoring spam but for taking such a serious line in a muppet thread.

Taking things out of context instead of focusing on the actual meaning, great.
yes we're apparently talking about quality - you think long threads are quality, I don't - we are discussing this, thus we're discussing how we define quality.
Where did I say long threads were quality? Entertaining was the word I used. They can be quality at times just like any other thread. There were some quality posts in the "Don't shave the hairs off your arse" thread so I guess it depends where you're posting as to how you define quality. I'm not sure where the transfer muppet thread stands in the "quality" posts standings.

I'm beginning to, though I can't say it's for the better.
Good thing to say. Good job I don't give a fk.

For feck sake - that's what this whole discussion is about! I and a few other didn't like how the thread was going, thus we don't think it's a good thread - you on the other hand like it and think it's a good thread - this is what we're now currently talking about, that's the essence of this discussion, but I'm sure you'll just post some picture of a lama instead.

Me?

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And what's up with the "(in Top's mind)" when the entire sentence was about how we each look at threads differently - nothing to do with how I alone look at a thread.
....but I'm not trying to change where the thread is going to suit my own needs

You're acting like child, making stupid sarcastic comments instead of actually looking at the point.
We're here talking about different opinions and then I mention a way it was sorted out the last time the same discussion took place.
Oh to be a child again, the urges, the energy, the......oh, sorry.....what was the point again?

Geez, you wouldn't think you are over fifty years old - seriously, look at your response to my points, you would think it was a 10 year old responding
:lol: I really find that funny.

A fitting end to your post; misreading what I'm saying - I said, we'll ignore the spam, not the thread.
That was a joke Top. You know, those things that make your face crease up.

Anyhow, I love you and forgive you for the nasty things you said about me. (My pa would say "forgive and remember")
 
Everyday there's a mega thread about a player coming or leaving I see BahamaRed on every single page.
There's a new mega thread every day? How would I survive?
Good observation to make though in your second post in this thread.
Please be aware that spamming is not tolerated in this thread. Especially spamming me. I have the power to disable your internets.
 
Who ya trying to kid. It's what you implied. It's what you're talking about here.
Trying to kid? I of all people should know what I did or did not imply. How the feck could I have referred to myself, when I haven't mentioned myself in any way during this discussion - I haven't even posted that much in this thread - I've only observed.
You're apparently just making stuff up in order to suit your own imaginative point - that must be great.

....but I'm not trying to change where the thread is going to suit my own needs
You just can't stop making stuff up, can you?
How the hell am I trying to change the thread? Look at all my posts during this conversation, I've said in every single one of them, that I'd just ignore the spam as you guys seemed to enjoy yourself and that it was too close to the end anyway to really do anything in order to please both groups - that's the exact opposite of what you're claiming that I've said - and then I've simply just responded to your comments and commented on your childish remarks.

That was a joke Top. You know, those things that make your face crease up.
I know it was a joke, I was commenting on how you once again didn't actually read what I said.

I forgive you for the nasty things you said about me.
What!?
Are you serious? You're the one making stuff up about me and what I've apparently said.
All I've said about you was that your response to my points were childish (like a ten year old) if that's nasty then I certainly wouldn't like to see how you'd react if someone really did insult you.
But go ahead, point out where I've said some nasty stuff about you - I can't wait to see what you choose to make up this time.
 
Trying to kid? I of all people should know what I did or did not imply. How the feck could I have referred to myself, when I haven't mentioned myself in any way during this discussion - I haven't even posted that much in this thread - I've only observed.
You're apparently just making stuff up in order to suit your own imaginative point - that must be great.


You just can't stop making stuff up, can you?
How the hell am I trying to change the thread? Look at all my posts during this conversation, I've said in every single one of them, that I'd just ignore the spam as you guys seemed to enjoy yourself and that it was too close to the end anyway to really do anything in order to please both groups - that's the exact opposite of what you're claiming that I've said - and then I've simply just responded to your comments and commented on your childish remarks.


I know it was a joke, I was commenting on how you once again didn't actually read what I said.


What!?
Are you serious? You're the one making stuff up about me and what I've apparently said.
All I've said about you was that your response to my points were childish (like a ten year old) if that's nasty then I certainly would see how you'd react if someone really did insult you.
But go ahead, point out where I've said some nasty stuff about you - I can't wait to see what you choose to make up this time.

Where's my Llama gone?
 
I agree with Top.

Apart from the occasions where I've tried to check in for anything new, I've stayed out of actual discussion in this thread because I just can't be bothered to wade through the crap.

And now I'll leave you to it.
 
Where's my Llama gone?

So this is you pointing out all the nasty things you claim I have said about you? conclusive evidence I must say.
Shall I take your post as your way of saying that you did in fact just make up all those ludicrous claims about me? Well in that case, apology accepted :smirk:

At least you didn't make stuff up in this post, that's progress I suppose :smirk:

Now I'll go to bed, I am after all +1 hour ahead.
 
So this is you pointing out all the nasty things you claim I have said about you? conclusive evidence I must say.
Shall I take your post as your way of saying that you did in fact just make up all those ludicrous claims about me? Well in that case, apology accepted :smirk:

At least you didn't make stuff up in this post, that's progress I suppose :smirk:

Now I'll go to bed, I am after all +1 hour ahead.

Sleep tight. Tuck in well. Watch out for the bed berbs.
 
Good observation to make though in your second post in this thread.

Good for you. Close the door on your way out please.
(Good 4th post by the way)

What's with you and judging people's opinions based on their post count in said thread?
As if having posted a lot means you're more qualified to make a comment - that's about the stupidest logic I've ever seen, and you wonder why I called some of your comments in our "conversation" childish?

That you have 500+ posts in this thread doesn't mean that you know more about this thread or this topic than someone who's only been reading the thread.
 
What's with you and judging people's opinions based on their post count in said thread?
As if having posted a lot means you're more qualified to make a comment - that's about the stupidest logic I've ever seen, and you wonder why I called some of your responses childish?

That you having 500+ posts doesn't mean that you know more about this thread or this topic than someone who's only been reading the thread.

Step up.
I thought you'd gone to bed.
Sure, those posts really added to the quality of this thread. Just because they agreed with you, you had to jump out of bed like that? I thought we'd put all that distraction to bed as well?
In case you hadn't noticed there's no berbanews at this time although some of us are trying to get a discussion going. UnitedRed there doesn't want Berbatov. Surely that's open for discussion instead of spamming again in here like you're all doing.
 
I thought you'd gone to bed.
Sure, those posts really added to the quality of this thread. Just because they agreed with you

I don't think Sijuan was agreeing with me, he was however commenting on you - Ah! So perhaps that's why you made that childish response...

And yes, I am on my way to bed, it is after all 5AM here, and I've just spend 2 hours with you having had the worst discussion I've had on the caf so far.

Goodnight BR, hopefully this will have been the last "discussion" you and I have, it's like pulling teeth.

I'm out :)
 
BahamaRed, You have been asleep for years, it sounds like. Twisting others' quotes and using them to your advantage is not an art you've yet mastered, bless your cotton socks.
 
Top, let it be. This thread, like the Ronaldo one, can no longer be rescued.

Yeah you're right, Mehro, I'm on my way to bed anyway - and like I said; it will all be over in 7 days anyway, so I'll just ignore the spam "posts" until then.

Okay, that's it, now I'm really off.
 
I don't think Sijuan was agreeing with me, he was however commenting on you - Ah! So perhaps that's why you made that childish response...

And yes, I am on my way to bed, it is after all 5AM here, and I've just spend 2 hours with you having had the worst discussion I've had on the caf so far.

Goodnight BR, hopefully this will have been the last "discussion" you and I have, it's like pulling teeth.

I'm out :)
G'night

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