kaku06
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Yep, noticed that too. Can’t trust a footballer running with his head down.Bit head down, isn't he? Got all the attributes to be a top striker if he can get his head up.
Yep, noticed that too. Can’t trust a footballer running with his head down.Bit head down, isn't he? Got all the attributes to be a top striker if he can get his head up.
Hes playing in a lower quality league by way of mid table or lower league opposition. If he wants to develop quicker, a move to a mid table PL club before a move to a top club is astute.He’s playing for a Champions League club and just turned down moves to multiple bigger clubs. But yeah should deffo join Wolves.
It is quite funny to see people have bothered watching him and now decided he’s shit, despite being told repeatedly he’s not ready to be first choice at a top team.
Luckily we can come back to this thread for years to come to laugh at this. He will score a tonne of goals.
Clubs should get you on their payroll.Hes playing in a lower quality league by way of mid table or lower league opposition. If he wants to develop quicker, a move to a mid table PL club before a move to a top club is astute.
Er, okClubs should get you on their payroll.
Yes so they can demand 150m for him and not let him leave. He is in the perfect place for his development as shown by quite a few elitie level strikers. I don’t remember Haaland or Lewandowski having to come to mid table PL to develop.Hes playing in a lower quality league by way of mid table or lower league opposition. If he wants to develop quicker, a move to a mid table PL club before a move to a top club is astute.
Haaland and Lewa were phenomenal and on a completely different level.Yes so they can demand 150m for him and not let him leave. He is in the perfect place for his development as shown by quite a few elitie level strikers. I don’t remember Haaland or Lewandowski having to come to mid table PL to develop.
What a weird discussion. He’s in the right place for his development and did well to turn down a big move this year. He’s played away at Madrid, at the Etihad, what would he gain having to play at Craven Cottage, playing with worse players and probably worse coaches.Hes playing in a lower quality league by way of mid table or lower league opposition. If he wants to develop quicker, a move to a mid table PL club before a move to a top club is astute.
Lewandowski was playing in Poland when he was older than Sesko. Guess what league he developed in after that. Oh yes, a German champions league team Should have joined Wolves tbh.Haaland and Lewa were phenomenal and on a completely different level.
He had a release clause. He can negotiate a lower one when extending, which was on the table. He signs the deals. You have an odd view on the game.
Sesko is as well. He is just young. Lewan at the same age as Sekso scored less goals. He took a leap at 22/23. Sesko is likely going to take a massive leap next season now being the no1 striker at his clubHaaland and Lewa were phenomenal and on a completely different level.
He had a release clause. He can negotiate a lower one when extending, which was on the table. He signs the deals. You have an odd view on the game.
Lewandowski was a lot better than sesko, the chances of sesko or any high potential player being Lewandowski is very small. A comparison to lewa is just stupid.What a weird discussion. He’s in the right place for his development and did well to turn down a big move this year. He’s played away at Madrid, at the Etihad, what would he gain having to play at Craven Cottage, playing with worse players and probably worse coaches.
Lewandowski was playing in Poland when he was older than Sesko. Guess what league he developed in after that. Oh yes, a German champions league team Should have joined Wolves tbh.
Arguing over who is the better forward between Sesko and Hojlund is like arguing over who has the better form of STD.
Are you actually claiming you watched a lot of Lech Poznan to know how good Lewandowski was at 20 years old. In fact they both scored 14 league goals in their age 20 season, it’s just that Sesko did it in the Bundesliga and not the Polish league.Lewandowski was a lot better than sesko, the chances of sesko or any high potential player being Lewandowski is very small. A comparison to lewa is just stupid.
Lewandowski was a lot better than sesko, the chances of sesko or any high potential player being Lewandowski is very small. A comparison to lewa is just stupid.
Go look at a list of top strikers from history and tell me where they were at 20 and if they scored 14 league goals in a top league.
Šeško is 21.
Plenty of strikers were already delivering much more at that age.
Aguero was the main man at Atletico Madrid when he was 21, Torres was scoring 20+ goals a year, Adriano was a beast at Parma scoring almost a goal a game, Benzema was the player of the year in Ligue 1, Ibrahimović caried a young Ajax team to CL quarter finals through two tough group stages etc.
All of these guys were already miles ahead of Šeško at that same age and passed the eye test.
There's no way that either of these forwards miss the kind of chance he had at any point in their career.
Every great forward in history has missed easier chances than that. All of them.There's no way that any of these forwards miss the kind of chance he had at any point in their career.
Also the last sentence is just plain stupid. We have seen every top striker miss that sort of chance and also easier chancesŠeško is 21.
Plenty of strikers were already delivering much more at that age.
Aguero was the main man at Atletico Madrid when he was 21, Torres was scoring 20+ goals a year, Adriano was a beast at Parma scoring almost a goal a game, Benzema was the player of the year in Ligue 1, Ibrahimović caried a young Ajax team to CL quarter finals through two tough group stages etc.
All of these guys were already miles ahead of Šeško at that same age and passed the eye test.
There's no way that any of these forwards miss the kind of chance he had at any point in their career.
Šeško is 21.
Plenty of strikers were already delivering much more at that age.
Aguero was the main man at Atletico Madrid when he was 21, Torres was scoring 20+ goals a year, Adriano was a beast at Parma scoring almost a goal a game, Benzema was the player of the year in Ligue 1, Ibrahimović caried a young Ajax team to CL quarter finals through two tough group stages etc.
All of these guys were already miles ahead of Šeško at that same age and passed the eye test.
There's no way that any of these forwards miss the kind of chance he had at any point in their career.
Every great forward in history has missed easier chances than that. All of them.
Šeško is 21.
Plenty of strikers were already delivering much more at that age.
Aguero was the main man at Atletico Madrid when he was 21, Torres was scoring 20+ goals a year, Adriano was a beast at Parma scoring almost a goal a game, Benzema was the player of the year in Ligue 1, Ibrahimović caried a young Ajax team to CL quarter finals through two tough group stages etc.
All of these guys were already miles ahead of Šeško at that same age and passed the eye test.
There's no way that any of these forwards miss the kind of chance he had at any point in their career.
I was talking about last season, hence saying he was 20. We don’t have any data on Sesko as a 21 year old but we can come back this time next year and see if he’s matched the likes of Torres and Aguero. He’d only need to score another 4/5 league goals to match their best ever seasons in La Liga. And just to mention he played less than half the amount of minutes that Aguero and Torres did in their most productive seasons.Šeško is 21.
Plenty of strikers were already delivering much more at that age.
Aguero was the main man at Atletico Madrid when he was 21, Torres was scoring 20+ goals a year, Adriano was a beast at Parma scoring almost a goal a game, Benzema was the player of the year in Ligue 1, Ibrahimović caried a young Ajax team to CL quarter finals through two tough group stages etc.
All of these guys were already miles ahead of Šeško at that same age and passed the eye test.
There's no way that any of these forwards miss the kind of chance he had at any point in their career.
There's no way that any of these forwards miss the kind of chance he had at any point in their career.
There are a lot of posters getting upset from something I never said. I never said he needs to leave right now (although the initial post was poorly worded and might have insinuated it). I said when before he moves to a top PL club, he should transition to a midtier PL team first. because he's still too rough round the edges. He's staying on where he is but it won't be for long, the top clubs will circle next season and he'd be at risk of moving too early a la Hojlund.Are you actually claiming you watched a lot of Lech Poznan to know how good Lewandowski was at 20 years old. In fact they both scored 14 league goals in their age 20 season, it’s just that Sesko did it in the Bundesliga and not the Polish league.
Of course this is a dumb argument, I’m not saying Sesko is going to be as good as Lewandowski, but surely you understand that very few strikers at 20 are starting for a top Bundesliga team. Go look at a list of top strikers from history and tell me where they were at 20 and if they scored 14 league goals in a top league.
I’m actually a bit pessimistic about Hojlund’s chances of development because of this. In the clamour for signing the next Haaland, I’m not sure these players are getting enough development before moving to a big club. A lot of strikers don’t start looking like a top forward until 25.
I never said he cannot develop playing in the Bundasliga at all. I said he would be better transitioning to a top level PL club via moving to a mid-table PL first. That's all. There are too many flaws in his game, and he's not going to go to a Lewa level (or remotely close) in 1 or 2 seasons.Saying the comparison is stupid when you make stupid comments is stupid.
Lewan was playing in an inferior league at the same age and scored more or less the same amount of goals. Sesko will likely score alot more goals next season when he will be the no1 striker (he was not this season) until after Christmas.
No one saying he will be better than Lewan but to say he cannot develop properly playing as the no1 striker for a UCL team in the Bundesliga when Lewan (given as an example) and most top strikers do develop outside of the PL is dumb which was the point being made
People watch a couple of games and become experts on a player. Sesko has been seen as a major top talent as a striker for over 3 years
People just disagree about that. Most think that he can develop at least as good (or probably better) at a Bundesliga top club and in the CL than in mid table PL. In terms of playing style Leipzig probably is closer to most PL top teams than most midtier PL teams, so the transition would be easier for him.There are a lot of posters getting upset from something I never said. I never said he needs to leave right now (although the initial post was poorly worded and might have insinuated it). I said when before he moves to a top PL club, he should transition to a midtier PL team first. because he's still too rough round the edges. He's staying on where he is but it won't be for long, the top clubs will circle next season and he'd be at risk of moving too early a la Hojlund.
I never said he cannot develop playing in the Bundasliga at all. I said he would be better transitioning to a top level PL club via moving to a mid-table PL first. That's all. There are too many flaws in his game, and he's not going to go to a Lewa level (or remotely close) in 1 or 2 seasons.
I feel like people didn't properly understand the point I was trying to make.
There is not that good a success rate of Bundasliga forwards doing well in the Premier League. The quality of the Bundasliga is also lower, like it or lump it. If he was a Haaland level player at the same age, sure. But he's not, and he's not even close.People just disagree about that. Most think that he can develop at least as good (or probably better) at a Bundesliga top club and in the CL than in mid table PL. In terms of playing style Leipzig probably is closer to most PL top teams than most midtier PL teams, so the transition would be easier for him.
How many strikers actually moved from a top BL club to a top PL club (as that's what we have to compare, not midtable players who were mostly signed as a cheap punt by PL clubs)? Haaland and Werner in recent years. One is breaking records, the other was a bit underwhelming but at least able to put in a shift.There is not that good a success rate of Bundasliga forwards doing well in the Premier League. The quality of the Bundasliga is also lower, like it or lump it. If he was a Haaland level player at the same age, sure. But he's not, and he's not even close.