Maybe we should consider taking him out behind the barn and shooting him.
Bebe | 2010/11 Performances
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Maybe we should consider taking him out behind the barn and shooting him.
im sorry but guys, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
This year was always about settling in with bebe. he's had around 20 games at probably league 2 level, and little over a couple of years ago, he was living in an orphanage.
this year was always about settling in, anything he did in the first team was always going to be a bonus.
give him the rest of the season to properly bed in, and a pre-season in the summer, and only then will we be in a better position to judge his prospects regarding the first team.
also, players with a much more heralded reputation and bigger pricetags had difficult initial seasons...Didier Drogba anyone? He looked a lot like Bebe has done, albeit at a higher level, but by the end of his 2nd or 3rd season he was on fire.
Just give the lad time, tis all I'm saying...
This year was always about settling in with bebe. he's had around 20 games at probably league 2 level, and little over a couple of years ago, he was living in an orphanage.
this year was always about settling in, anything he did in the first team was always going to be a bonus.
give him the rest of the season to properly bed in, and a pre-season in the summer, and only then will we be in a better position to judge his prospects regarding the first team.
also, players with a much more heralded reputation and bigger pricetags had difficult initial seasons...Didier Drogba anyone? He looked a lot like Bebe has done, albeit at a higher level, but by the end of his 2nd or 3rd season he was on fire.
Just give the lad time, tis all I'm saying...
He will be given time. I think what the most sceptic are arguing is why a player that "had around 20 games at probably league 2 level" was signed by Manchester United on these weird circumstances.
It's not about him having a difficult initial season, but rather the questioning if this is about the best he can do. You really want to compare a top-flight professional footballer like Drogba with Bebé? If Drogba didn't cut it at Chelsea he'd go to a smaller Premiership team or to another country and would still be a great footballer, whilst Bebé looks like he's not even good enough for the worse Premiership teams.
Oh, and I only saw his first few games this season, both for United and for Portugal U's. But from what I read of people that saw him more recently he didn't seem to have evolved at all.
The problem is, SAF has always said there's no value on the market, and then he goes on and buys Bebe without seeing him play.
And to be honest, the boy has desire and inner drive, but his football skills are questionable
Where does he play in the reserves?
Seems like he shouldn't be out on the wing.
Seems like he shouldn't be out on the wing.
Well SAF said Bebe will be a striker, so he too thinks his crosses are shit, yet he keeps starting him on the wing
You can argue that he's not ready for first team action but to look so poor against a non-league side just goes to show how far he is from being ready, if he ever will.
I cant even bring myself to lie to myself and pretend I think he'll become a first team regular and frankly he is pretty terrible. I will be amazed if he isn't sold/let go before or when his contract is up.
I cant even bring myself to lie to myself and pretend I think he'll become a first team regular and frankly he is pretty terrible. I will be amazed if he isn't sold/let go before or when his contract is up.
He really could benefit from a loan, I mean he is absolutely completely out of his depth right now, he looks so fecking amateur out there right now, he has so good attributes, but it doesnt seem as though he knows how to play football though.
Indeed
Wenger said last season that Walcott cant play on the wing and he knows that now. A year later he's playing well against the likes of Barcelona on the wing.
Bebe would seem to be a front 3 player. I've seen him play as a striker and be even more quiet and frustrated than on the wing. In truth he's somewhere between a wide player and a striker and wide of a front 3 you can do a bit of both - especially if you go back to having a fluid front 3 like we had a few years ago. Bebe has promise, there are some areas where he's good. A good athlete, strong, can strike a ball well sometimes, tall - but he needs to work on his crossing, his movement, final pass, etc. and this stuff may take some time. But when/if he develops in these areas, it'll only make the strong aspects he currently has more formidable.
As for right now, I'm not too sure why he gets more critisism than Obertan. Especially as they tend to play in the same matches and be about as good as each other. Only one has been at the club a year longer than the other.
Aside from his cameo against Wolfsburg last season I'm still yet to see the player Obertan was at the toulon tournament before we signed him.
Bebe is a major work in progress. The remaking of him has only just begun.
I remember some people on here wanted to get rid of Evra and Vidic after there first few months.
Now one of thems a fecking captain ffs.
Lucky our fan base has no say in the day to day running of the club.
It would be a disaster.
Now one of thems a fecking captain ffs.
Lucky our fan base has no say in the day to day running of the club.
It would be a disaster.
Bebe reborn?
or like incubating. These are his fast few months of top class professional football training and play. He will take a while to adjust. He wouldn't make the bench let alone any starting squad if he had nothing to him.
It's like plucking one of us off the street and putting us in the United first team squad. There's a lot for him to get used to and adjust to. At least at reserve level he has started showing his ability. Surely it will take longer than that to translate to first 11 football.
There was a shot where Crawley was attacking in the middle, Bebe' was there bending on his knee's having a huff, the ball went behind him and he didn't get a ....
I'd call that out of stamina.
the worrying thing for me yesterday (as well as seeming to lack any aggression/determination/passion etc.) was thst he looked sluggish/slow and got knocked off the ball repeatedly-his athleticism is supposed to be his strong point at the moment isn't it, with the united education bringing the rest?
United should throw Bebe out with the bathwater
From Goal.com..
How do you throw someone out with bathwater?
From Goal.com..
How do you throw someone out with bathwater?
No, as it implies to throw something good away with something you perceive to be bad.
People should have faith in the people who have elevated united to such greatness, and trust their judgment.
yesterday the whole side was responsible and has to take collective responsibility for such a dismal and non spirited display.
People should have faith in the people who have elevated united to such greatness, and trust their judgment.
yesterday the whole side was responsible and has to take collective responsibility for such a dismal and non spirited display.
It's a lame pun on his name, which actually makes no sense in this context.
Goal.com has been reading the Caf.
There's always a few of these knocking about
Ignore the fact that Evra and Vidic were already internationals and established club players at the point in time we signed them both, compared to this lad who as has been pointed out, has no football education, and the highest level he'd played at prior to us was the Portuguese second division
How dare anyone suggest a player might not be up to the job eh
I bet you're still waiting on Bellion to come good here yeh?
to be fair on the Bebster, I doubt he was worse than his wolves outing
he actually looks like he has extreme difficulties controlling the ball to dribble
this is something you learn at a very young age
There's a difference between taking time adapting to different variations in the way football is played (Evra, Vidic) in different leagues and needing to coach a player from scratch. With a lot of practice, coaching and hard work at best we'll probably be able to describe Bebe as footballer in a few years.
One thing that can't be faulted is his work ethic, he has a fair engine in him, other than that he has a bit of work to do, there seemed to be an improvement on his crossing yesterday though. At the moment he is very raw but its fierce early days yet, he has a lot going for him with his pace & big stature & he couldn't be at a better club in terms of coming on as a player, i've high hopes of him.
I must've seen a different game yesterday. I thought he was very lazy off the ball. Which is criminal for someone so young trying to build a career in the game. Fans were shouting from the stands to track back or get into positions to receive the ball.
Surely 99,999 times out of 100,000 if you took a random bloke out of the street he wouldn't be good enough for a team that aspires to be the best English side?
I was at the game myself & i thought he was very good at hunting down the ball in the final 3rd of the pitch, all the lads around me noted it as well, i agree with the tracking back, he does seem to stay forward a bit much, i'm going to put that down to maybe being told too, but once again i couldn't fault his work ethic in the final 3rd of the pitch, it was very noticeable i thought.
If Tosic who was a proper football player when he arrived and is now CSKA Moscow's top talent wasn't good enough to play 90 minutes of football for us, then how on earth will Bebe ever be good enough.
He wont
He wont
Christ, I forgot he was that bad. At times it looks like he was over hitting those crosses on purpose.
Shouldnt be anywhere near the first team for about 18 months.
Personally I think he's got the raw materials, I'm going to wait and see what our coaching staff can do with the attributes he has.
I hope that Im wrong on this one but I think that Bebe will end up in the list of SAF's weird transfers which ended up being a flop. The boy has yet to learn the very basic of football and seems more like some 5 yr old kid playing football with his mates in the backyard garden then a professional footballer. Considering that he is already age 20 (not old but definately not a kid anymore) and that he is competing for a first team caps against players like Nani, Valencia, Park and Obertan I cant see him making it at United. My only hope is that we will loan him to the right club who would play him regularly and who knows unleash the talent which our scouts believe that he has.
Tosic baffles me as he's looked the part each time I've seen him play for CSKA, which was about three times though. He was left footed though and a far better option than Obertan so I don't know why he wasn't even given a run. Mind you we sold him for a profit.
Obertan was nearly as bad as Bebe yesterday to be fair.
Or you have started writing for them!
Not guilty sir
I agree but Obertan has more experience then this kid and seems capable to play on both flanks. At the end of the day Id rather see us focusing on 4 consistent wingers (we've already have them with Nani, Valencia, Park and Giggs altough the latter is getting old and will need to be replaced) + Cleverley then keep on insisting in adding 'promising' wingers with little hope of ever doing it at OT.
After watching him several times in the first team and in the reserves, I have to say the initial impressions ifor
He's been thrown right in at the deep end in fairness to him, he obviously has some raw natural ability but I can't imagine what must be going on in his head right about now - not to mention last night. You don't go from being on the streets to playing for Manchester United at Old Trafford without having your mind blown simple as.
He had some quality moments last night, take for example the defense splitting pass to Hernandez who had sadly ran marginally off-side. Bebe has a physical presence, fairly blistering pace. He's obviously going to need a lot more time to settle than most.
I want to see him play more tbh.
He had some quality moments last night, take for example the defense splitting pass to Hernandez who had sadly ran marginally off-side. Bebe has a physical presence, fairly blistering pace. He's obviously going to need a lot more time to settle than most.
I want to see him play more tbh.
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