BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?

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Scorpy said:
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From this photo and also the other one which is often shown (the one at OT last season when Mou walked up to home team section), I get feeling that Mourinho just wants excuse to touch Van Gaal's cheeks! :nervous:
 
There's something about him next to the United badge that just looks right isn't there?
 
Well Mourinho news ((if you can call it that anymore) had filtered through to other united forums yesterday night. Today telegraph is writing almost a similar story. Looks like it is done and poch links are just rumours. Rui faria will be assistant and Giggs will leave the club and sign for another club.
 
All the papers are reporting the same story now, I don't know if they're just working off of the initial DM article though.
 
All that's needed now is for the club to give Van Gaal a "vote of confidence". Then we'll know for sure he'll be gone!
 
I grew up loving United because we played exciting, attacking football. We would mix youth and experience, and while it's true that we've never had a generation on the same level as the Class of '92: I can't help but feel that José's appointment will be death to our history of using youngsters and English players.

It'll be a million miles away from those European nights on ITV with Brian Moore commentating, where we'd play Juventus at 100mph, with high pressing attacking football - Giggs, Scholes, McClair, even Irwin all getting in on the forward play.

Perhaps I'm romanticising the past, but I fear the attacking football I fell in love with, which was choked by LvG, will be finished off by José. Worse still, the United apprentice will die out.

I can't support this appointment. I don't want to win the UCL drawing every knockout 0-0 and going for penalties.
 
I seem to recall Ron Atkinson was accused of ignoring the youth system in his time.
 
17 Van der Gouw said:
I grew up loving United because we played exciting, attacking football. We would mix youth and experience, and while it's true that we've never had a generation on the same level as the Class of '92: I can't help but feel that José's appointment will be death to our history of using youngsters and English players.

It'll be a million miles away from those European nights on ITV with Brian Moore commentating, where we'd play Juventus at 100mph, with high pressing attacking football - Giggs, Scholes, McClair, even Irwin all getting in on the forward play.

Perhaps I'm romanticising the past, but I fear the attacking football I fell in love with, which was choked by LvG, will be finished off by José. Worse still, the United apprentice will die out.

I can't support this appointment. I don't want to win the UCL drawing every knockout 0-0 and going for penalties.
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We won't be playing them without getting 4th at least, and that involves winning some match.
 
17 Van der Gouw said:
I grew up loving United because we played exciting, attacking football. We would mix youth and experience, and while it's true that we've never had a generation on the same level as the Class of '92: I can't help but feel that José's appointment will be death to our history of using youngsters and English players.

It'll be a million miles away from those European nights on ITV with Brian Moore commentating, where we'd play Juventus at 100mph, with high pressing attacking football - Giggs, Scholes, McClair, even Irwin all getting in on the forward play.

Perhaps I'm romanticising the past, but I fear the attacking football I fell in love with, which was choked by LvG, will be finished off by José. Worse still, the United apprentice will die out.

I can't support this appointment. I don't want to win the UCL drawing every knockout 0-0 and going for penalties.
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Our history of bringing youngsters has been exactly that, history, for the last decade or so. We have hardly developed a first team regular since the class of 1992, forever injured Wes Brown aside. Mourinho being here for 3 years won't ruin us.
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
If true Jose is a bigger twat than I thought. He should have kept his gob shut. It is this sort of behavior which really makes me dislike him. If not true, WTF do people get out of publishing this shit. If anyone at United has leaked it they should be given the bullet. No respect shown by anyone involved.
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I just don't believe Jose would have leaked this. He kept Fergies secret of retirement for 3 months. There are quite a number of people who would have known, some with vested interest.
 
Sarni said:
Our history of bringing youngsters has been exactly that, history, for the last decade or so. We have hardly developed a first team regular since the class of 1992, forever injured Wes Brown aside. Mourinho being here for 3 years won't ruin us.
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I think if an undeniable player came through the system, Mourinho would play him. Hopefully the development/scouting system will uncover another Scholes or a Pogba.
 
Sarni said:
Our history of bringing youngsters has been exactly that, history, for the last decade or so. We have hardly developed a first team regular since the class of 1992, forever injured Wes Brown aside. Mourinho being here for 3 years won't ruin us.
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Basically this. Also, our focus should be to get the academy back to that standard where we get guys like from the class of 92. Instead of just asking the manager to play youngsters for the sake of it, we should get better people in to run the academy so that the manager may want to actually play those who are good enough.
 
Red_Beans said:
What's wrong with Jose appointing his long time assistant?
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He's a knob who's always getting into trouble. Besides, José's staff are the most smug bunch I've ever seen in football.
 
Loon said:
I seem to recall Ron Atkinson was accused of ignoring the youth system in his time.
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Ferguson alwaya talked about when he first took over the youth system was a joke. Man City had double the amount of local scouts or something.
 
Are we all convinced this is nailed on now? I'm amazed Van Gaal hasn't asked Woodward if this is bullshit.
 
NK86 said:
Basically this. Also, our focus should be to get the academy back to that standard where we get guys like from the class of 92. Instead of just asking the manager to play youngsters for the sake of it, we should get better people in to run the academy so that the manager may want to actually play those who are good enough.
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Exactly. When academy is good enough to produce youngsters who will impact our first team, then they will play. At the minute we haven't been producing the good standard of players, it's not like these players do not make an impact at United - few of them really go on to be very good players elsewhere too (Drinkwater, Cleverley, Shawcross have but they're still probably below the standard you'd expect from United regular). Pogba is a different case, even Ferguson who was known for good handling of youngsters misjudged him, actually under Mourinho he'd have probably got more chances.

Also, as for the quality of attacking football - for the last 10-12 years under Ferguson we played exactly like Mourinho likes his teams to play. Attacking and enjoying football against weaker sides but trying to contain the better teams and play cautious football there - this is how we approached virtually all big European games under Fergie.
 
Loon said:
Are we all convinced this is nailed on now? I'm amazed Van Gaal hasn't asked Woodward if this is bullshit.
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He probably has and he probably knows the answer. I think van Gaal wants to depart in the Summer himself, the job has clearly been too hard for him lately and you can feel that he's quite stressed.
 
Sarni said:
Exactly. When academy is good enough to produce youngsters who will impact our first team, then they will play. At the minute we haven't been producing the good standard of players, it's not like these players do not make an impact at United - few of them really go on to be very good players elsewhere too (Drinkwater, Cleverley, Shawcross have but they're still probably below the standard you'd expect from United regular). Pogba is a different case, even Ferguson who was known for good handling of youngsters misjudged him, actually under Mourinho he'd have probably got more chances.

Also, as for the quality of attacking football - for the last 10-12 years under Ferguson we played exactly like Mourinho likes his teams to play. Attacking and enjoying football against weaker sides but trying to contain the better teams and play cautious football there - this is how we approached virtually all big European games under Fergie.
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The last para is spot on. Didn't we have like a record of not conceding during the group stages in one of our recent UCL campaigns under Fergie? It surely was not because we were gung-ho. We were very practical in our away European encounters and that is exactly how Jose plays. Jose's teams may not be the most expansive but to state that he plays boring football is a bit OTT.
 
sunama said:
I absolutely believe we are in serious talks with him. Why? Because we have no choice.

Guardiola is going to be managing MCFC next year
Klopp@LFC.
Chelsea may have Allegri next season and IMO he is one of the best managers in the World.
Ranieri at LFC (with probably more funds to buy better players...only this time with belief that they belong at the top)
Wenger at Arsenal (who always gets top 4).

That's 5 teams capable of top 4 places.
And when you add in Spurs, who are capable of top 5 placing, that's 6 teams capable of occupying the top 6.
If we drop the ball now, top 6 could become a problem for us.

If we have LVG or Giggs at the helm, it'll be like taking a knife to gunfight.
We absolutely need a big hitter, with a win at all costs attitude (and yes, that includes gouging people's eyes out, and calling non scoring strikers out - I am sick and tired of being the most boring team in the league, can't score more than 1 goal/game, side passing, back passing, can't defend after conceding 1 goal, manager complaining about being sacked by the press every week, can't beat Norwich/Bournemouth unless we have Messi/Neymar/Bale in our team, etc).

Hiring Jose is like making a deal with the devil. It could be dangerous and may carry serious consequences (at a later date). But initially, he'll stamp on the opposition and grant us our wish of winning trophies. Especially if we give him whatever money he wants. And from what I understand, Woodward is prepared to break the World transfer record, 2 times over, if such a player is prepared to join us.
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Well said. This post articulates exactly how I feel about the situation. Two things are certain with Mourinho; trophies and controversy. He brings great gifts, but those gifts are poisoned. But we can't let Guardiola joining City stand, so like you say, we have no choice.
 
NK86 said:
The last para is spot on. Didn't we have like a record of not conceding during the group stages in one of our recent UCL campaigns under Fergie? It surely was not because we were gung-ho. We were very practical in our away European encounters and that is exactly how Jose plays. Jose's teams may not be the most expansive but to state that he plays boring football is a bit OTT.
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Exactly my take on this. We played good football when it was possible to play good football but when we needed a result, we set ourselves up to get a result, often playing to nullify opposition strengths rather than emphasize our strengths. The prime example of that is Real Madrid game actually where we contained them for 160 minutes of the tie before Nani's sending off and those were two very good games actually - this is what I'd expect under Jose.
 
FujiVice said:
The "friend" is Jorge Mendes. If its gotten out that Mourinho is telling people he's our new manager, its because he and his team want it out there.
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This. Mendes is very practiced at this kind of thing, and knows exactly what he's doing. And frankly, a story about Mourinho confiding in "close friends" stinks like a deliberate and calculated leak. Only question now is when.
 
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