Less than 20% according to this very thread, and plenty of them fans of other clubs worried sick what Jose can achieve for us.
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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All United fans.
And even those fans were massively against him a couple of months ago when we had a poll here.
Like I said, I like him and want him as our manager because he'll win things for us (hopefully) but there are very legitimate reason for not wanting him and one of the most obvious is that he's a massive massive cnut.
Had a quick scan through, looks like nearly all Utd fans to me
So you wouldn't take a player like Suarez because he is a cnut.
I miss having cnut players and managers. We too nice these days. Hopefully Mourinho can sign some.
I'd rather have a cnut that wins trophies than a nice guy that never wins anything
I have no problem with Mourinho but I would prefer the way Pochettino has his Spurs side playing. Brilliant defensively but still looking to attack. Spurs have the best defensive record in the league but play very entertaining football. Attacking football doesn't have to mean crap defensively.
Personally I disagree with pretty much everything he said. I'm not favorable to Mourinho, because I think that he acts like a coward against big teams, I also think that the siege mentality isn't suited to mid to long term plans, that mentality puts to much pressure on the players psyche and finally I think that his relationship with Mendes can be toxic if we don't have a DOF to temper it.
No, he's a bit too far up the cnut ladder even for me aside from racially abusing a United legend and then acting the victim and playing for Liverpool. I would stop supporting the club if we ever signed rat.
Mourinho for all his faults has always been very respectful towards the club and Fergie which is a plus in my eyes
Chelsea didn't do poor in the league in his third year. I was watching Premier League years the other day and they chased the title down right to the end (they drew to Bolton at home 2-2 and we came back from Everton 2-0 down to win 4-2). Those results meant we then could relax for our trip to Stamford Bridge and play Dong Fangzhoe
This was the table before that Everton game. He also won the FA Cup and League cup I think that season
He went to inter with the objective of winning the CL as soon as possible (and he won an unprecedented treble with a net spend of £30m) as it was Morrattis obsession to replicate the success from 50 years ago. He wasn't there to build a young team for years and years and the team he left wasn't poor enough to explain what Rafa did
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It's ok @Twigginater - everyone stop taking the piss.
Twiggs - I share your concerns about Mourinho. However, in the absence of another kick ass candidate I think he might be a necessary evil at this point. A big gamble in some ways, but Giggs for e.g. is a bigger gamble. The club just cannot afford to have an inexperienced person at the helm - it just cannot afford to do that. You seem to like Giggs a lot so I would hope that you wouldn't want to see him make a hash of things and be completely destroyed on a personal level in the aftermath of such failure. It would not be good for him.
United is also a peculiar club in that you need a certain kind of personality as manager. i dunno what it is, but whether they fail or succeed, they need to have big personalities to cope with everything that comes with the position. I just can't see anyone else crazy enough to take on the club in its current state except for Jose.
However, I do respect your stance on not wanting Jose as he is an absolute bastard. On the other hand, Giggs is not that different if we're honest. Imagine at family gatherings you have your mistress there with your wife and kids! And the mistress happens to be your brother's wife. The point is there's no morals with football people, so we can't reject one on the basis they're a cnut but on the other hand endorse someone else who is arguably an even bigger one in the context of what he did to his family.
Otherwise, I love your posts and the fact you stick to your convictions irrespective of the criticism here
Twiggs - I share your concerns about Mourinho. However, in the absence of another kick ass candidate I think he might be a necessary evil at this point. A big gamble in some ways, but Giggs for e.g. is a bigger gamble. The club just cannot afford to have an inexperienced person at the helm - it just cannot afford to do that. You seem to like Giggs a lot so I would hope that you wouldn't want to see him make a hash of things and be completely destroyed on a personal level in the aftermath of such failure. It would not be good for him.
United is also a peculiar club in that you need a certain kind of personality as manager. i dunno what it is, but whether they fail or succeed, they need to have big personalities to cope with everything that comes with the position. I just can't see anyone else crazy enough to take on the club in its current state except for Jose.
However, I do respect your stance on not wanting Jose as he is an absolute bastard. On the other hand, Giggs is not that different if we're honest. Imagine at family gatherings you have your mistress there with your wife and kids! And the mistress happens to be your brother's wife. The point is there's no morals with football people, so we can't reject one on the basis they're a cnut but on the other hand endorse someone else who is arguably an even bigger one in the context of what he did to his family.
Otherwise, I love your posts and the fact you stick to your convictions irrespective of the criticism here
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Let's consult Sir Alex on this.
Sir Alex wasn't using the siege mentality like Mourinho does, SAF convinced his player to have fun in spite of everyone while Mourinho convinces his players to fight everyone.
With SAF the players were convinced that they were the best when with Mourinho the players think that they are eternal outsiders.
I don't know if you were around in the 90s, but here's an article from the early 00s:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/team_pages/england/newsid_1984000/1984079.stm
It would probably help Mourinho that we haven't exactly got a club legend playing for us these days. He could basically drop/sell whoever he wanted to, no one's untouchable. Very little chance it ends up like at Real Madrid, with him falling out with some of the big names in the dressing room, and also very little chance it ends like it did at Chelsea this time - we've been a bit shite for 3 seasons now, none of our players are going to be resting on their laurels.
Yeah and? Mourinho pushes his players to play angry while SAF pushes his players to be arrogant, you don't see the difference?
Edit: And I will accept Mourinho as our manager, he isn't my favorite but who cares?
What exactly do you mean he pushes his players to play angry?
No No No Never !
All his teams play shit football, he is extremely divisive in the dressing room, the only thing he coaches well is negativity and he's a cnut 100%. He is the enemy ! Remember when Rafa went to Chelsea - do we need the same here? We need a forward looking manager not just someone who make headlines and stirs shit.
All his teams play shit football, he is extremely divisive in the dressing room, the only thing he coaches well is negativity and he's a cnut 100%. He is the enemy ! Remember when Rafa went to Chelsea - do we need the same here? We need a forward looking manager not just someone who make headlines and stirs shit.
Look at the poll. Over 80% want him. He wins titles at every club.
Every time this nonsense is sprouted, it makes me wonder if whoever said it has actually watched any football in the past decade.
He's teams have almost always been the top 2 scorers (maybe 3rd once) in every league he's coached in. His scoring record with Real Madrid still hasn't been broken by the bestest club ever ever.
We would have got 3 points today with Jose.
SAF had some footballing substance to it also, it was still about the football. Mourinho lately has been only about pep talks to players, getting under skins of other managers (like that is important) and intimidation of referees. That has worked fine for years because he had this aura of invincibility, the players believed him. Now he has messed up at Real and Chelsea, and become more of a clown and less of a manager/coach.
United will not only risk youth players and loosing fans with boring football, but also risk signing last decade's best manager. There's no guarantee he's anywhere near the best managers in the current decade. If you really want a cnut for a manager, at least go for a young and promising cnut.
It's no use.. the same old myths will always be peddled by those with an agenda.
What exactly do you mean he pushes his players to play angry?
I have the impression that his teams are often vengeful and it often correspond to his own mood. Maybe I'm wrong.
I want to believe that we really spoke with him about taking over at the end of the season.. I am all for it..
But I fear this might be a news leak either by our club or his representative to either calm United fans in the short run or in his representatives case, maybe a pitch for him to get the job..
I fear if England does not so great at Euros, FA might offer him the job, he might take it and our board would just either stick with LvG or Giggs gets the job..
I hope I am wrong.. But just my gut feeling says this might be a diversionary tactic by Woody to calm United fans in the short term.
But I fear this might be a news leak either by our club or his representative to either calm United fans in the short run or in his representatives case, maybe a pitch for him to get the job..
I fear if England does not so great at Euros, FA might offer him the job, he might take it and our board would just either stick with LvG or Giggs gets the job..
I hope I am wrong.. But just my gut feeling says this might be a diversionary tactic by Woody to calm United fans in the short term.
How exactly did he mess up at Real? Beating the supposed best club side ever to the La Liga title?
Ehhh...Rooney?
Still so undecided about this guy. Many reasons to want him and many to not. The fact I can only hope he can cut out the baggage/controversy that he brings is a worry.
Based on what exactly?
80% of people who are 99% non match-goers...
I don't give a ___ about winning titles if it's under this turd - He is always more important than the club or players at least in his own eyes..
As for the "success" at Real.. My granny could have managed that team full of talent from top to bottom. A couple of RM supporters I know even think he under-achieved with what he had.
You don't want trophies unless its under a specific manager ? Interesting.
No i don't want trophies under Morinho cos i don't want him as manager..
Look at what happened at Chelsea this season where everybody wanted him ...
Could your granny manage Barca too? I guess that makes Pep a fraud too.
LVG is insisting that the Jose stuff is fabricated by the media. It's he bluffing or being genuine? No way the club would go behind his back, he's seemingly too close to Woodward for that to happen.
Too many serious outlets reporting it to be fabricated, imo.
Would your granny have done better against Pep's freakish Barca side as well? Good on her if so.
Despite the couple of Madrid fans you know, quite a sizeable proportion of Madrid fans wanted Mourinho back and chanted his name whilst Benitez was still manager.
He would have set them up better after we scored. He would have got off his arse and shouted instructions and he wouldn't have put Memphis on at that time.
Yep, he would have sent on Mikel (who we will finally get to sign for real) and closed the game off
We wouldn't have been 1-0 up, as neither the guy who put the cross in or the guy who scored it would be anywhere near the match squad.
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