Ha ha yeah, that would probably be his greatest ever achievement, getting fans to pay off failed managers for him.
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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This thread gets weirder by the day
It has to. Other than speculation there is nothing more to say now than there was the day the thread was created, months ago. We need to be creative to keep the damn thing interesting.
Assuming our board is not incompetent and still has a brain cell between them.. I can only interpret the events as follows:
That would be my take on things assuming the board is not run by a bunch of morons.
- Mourinho was up for the job even back in December/January but the board was wary of replacing Van Gaal midway through the season as they did not want to be seen as a sacking club and probably gave up on the title by that point and thought we could still scrape top 4 under his management. There was also much doubt as to whether Mourinho was the right man amongst the board and thus they were not happy to pull the trigger.
- At some stage post winter, this decision was reversed and the board felt that Van Gaal was not the right man to take us forward and sounded out Mourinho for the role. A pre-contract.. either verbal or written was agreed and the only way United would renege on such an agreement was if Van Gaal won a trophy and we finished top 3, in which case he would be granted another year.
- Right now with United unlikely to make top 3, top 4 and the FA cup might not be enough to save Van Gaals job as the club are ready to commit to Jose as manager but will not officially commit to the deal because it makes no sense to sack Van Gaal now whilst top 4 is still up for grabs. If he fails to achieve his target, they can sack him for a cheaper amount so it is financially prudent to just wait until top 4 is mathematically impossible. Even if he gets top 4 they will probably still sack him but at least they will do so in the knowledge they gave it a shot at getting rid of him for less money. Furthermore they didn't want to rock the boat until all trophies have been played for, thus ensuring motivation is high amongst the coaching staff and they believe their jobs can be saved.
- Mourinho has definitely not been offered a job in 2017. He probably has but this must have been rejected in the early discussions when he was first approached, a manager like Mourinho does not sacrifice a year of his life just to wait for his 'dream' job. He seems utterly confident that he will begin his new job in the summer and he also seems adamant it will be in England and that it will be a club. All this seems to point to the fact that United are biding their time and waiting until the season is up before getting rid of Van Gaal and they want to see if they can sack him for a cheaper amount.
That would be my take on things assuming the board is not run by a bunch of morons.
Everything you said made sense, except your assumptions. Since Gill and SAF left, it has been made clear we are run by morons. I hope what you are saying is right though
That is more or less my interpretation of it as well.
Those two are the ones who got us Moyes.
Except those two hired Moyes and the "morons" are the ones who sacked him. On top of that are redeveloping the out dated academy and scouting structures... not saying they have been great or perfect, however lets see what happens in the summer before we label them morons.
My thoughts also.
LvG himself said third was his target at the beginning of season as to improve on last year. Even if we win the cup and scrape 4th (on less points than last season) it should not negate the complete failure in the CL, the style of football and goals scored which have both regressed despite a lot of money being spent for a second consecutive summer. We are still in the battle for 4th due to a collective of bad teams and not the strength of anything van Gaal has tactically changed etc. Any manager that can get an expensively assembled squad to score just 43 goals in 35 games whilst absolutely boring the feck out of the supporters on a weekly basis does not deserve more time at all.
Not sure if you're trying to imply Mourinho was fortuitous with Porto with the bold bit, and I agree, but it was a ridiculous achievement nontheless.
Lets see how Pep does in the Premier League. I don't have as high expectations of him as others might,
Key sentences in your post mate
If he does as well as Mourinho did, which is win a league title or 2 then he is due some props.
Very key. Otherwise I am donating my salary to your cause.
You think so? Shall we ask someone?
Just asked Gooner Claude (the loud one from Arsenal fan TV) on Twitter whether the Arsenal fans want Mourinho. He simply said "split" and "it won't happen the board won't have him."
I just thought Mou had a clause in his Chelsea severance package where he couldn't join a PL team in the same season.
I don't really support sacking LVG but this isn't cringeworthy at all. It is a sign that enough fans are united enough to express a view. This sends a strong message.
Truth is the club could see this sign and sack LVG any way forking out the 5m itself. And the crowdfunded money could be used for charity.
I am hoping that failure to get top 4 will be seen as grounds for dismissal.
It has to be. Financially, it's a big blow.
Mourinho is a must. He has the best CV in world football for the job.
It has to be. Financially, it's a big blow.
Mourinho is a must. He has the best CV in world football for the job.
That's just what people were speculating on here.
I dont see this crowdfunding doing anything good. 1 pound so far and its not looking good.
You just answered it, they want it they just dont see the board sanction it
I don't know why you're worried, your team have already secured Guardiola's services.
Can disagree with financial aspect however even top 4 but without proper title challenge counts as a failure at this point. Not reaching play off stage of Champions League after easiest group is another basis on which talk about change could be in advanced stages.
The most important thing about Mourinho is that he's in favour of sport director idea which may cure a lot of insanity going on in the club and finally help reach targets to get us back on demanded level.
Reaching F.A. Cup final looks to me more like just a trial postponement that's been around a corner from quite a while.
Ah right, I thought I heard or read about it in the media at the time he was sacked. Never mind, time will only tell and there isn't long for us to know for sure what is going on.
You cant donate a quid anymore, this is bullshit.
Please tell me you made it in jest
This is a collection of events that you want to happen and not how you understand the rumors.
The most possible explanation is journalists don't know a thing and have been reporting based on leaks from practically anyone. It's possible that Mourinho was sounded out for the job at the end of the season provided results didn't go well and we would probably know post May 21 if this is true.
So maybe the fans are not willing to put the money where the mouth is. Easier to complain and call the board morons.
No he made it to raise 5 million quid to pay off Van Gaal's contract himself.
It's like when a RAWK poster wrote an open letter to John Henry because his predictions at the beginning of the season came true at the end.
Someone hold me and tell me it's all going to be ok.
I cant hold you but I can tell you I am very confident things are going to be just fine.
We're already 0.00022% towards reaching our target! Get in!
It would cost far less just to get someone to kill him.
11 punds
You'd be better off arranging a twitter thingy and getting people to up vote - "When LVG goes/Mourinho is hired, we'll buy the new Adidas kit - otherwise forget it" - then send it to Adidas/United twitter, Facebook and fatman Neil Custis, who'll no doubt make a big article out of it
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I can hold you but i'm not gonna, and things gonna get much worse so you know.
Well it's coming to D-day time, within 2-3 weeks we're going to know for sure, so at least the torture will end either way.
If he stays at least I can save on United merchandise and Sky/BT subscription for a year, every cloud and all that.
If he stays at least I can save on United merchandise and Sky/BT subscription for a year, every cloud and all that.
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