I really hope that they already took their decision, whatever that is.
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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I really hope that they already took their decision, whatever that is.
Arsenal you mean?
Yes, I dont think he was seriously suggesting that was going to happen, more what Mourinho would prefer.
Edit: Though I guess he does cite Wenger not leaving as the reason, whereas as you said, I dont think the board would want him anyway.
But they are going to have a similar dilemma to us when Wenger does leave. Guardiola would have been a good fit there if the timing had worked out. I also once thought they would end up with Klopp. If Wenger were to leave this summer they wouldnt exactly be overwhelmed with options.
It's not really about the money though. It is the message it would send to the board that counts.
The fact that fans would be willing to donate their hard earn money to get rid of the manager would show this disassociated from reality board that the fans are not happy!
Btw I nearly forgot - so the narrative seems to be that if we sack him then we pay him this but there was also the story before ..that if we don't hire Jose, then we have to pay him something as well? 
Might have been a similar amount - certainly a few million....so don't it probably all even itself out?
Might have been a similar amount - certainly a few million....so don't it probably all even itself out?Bloody hell, I thought the transfer petition from GE was bad. Crowd funding a pay off? We're through the looking glass now.
A message across the board that will count will be leave OT empty for the remaining 2 games. Or not renewing the ST.
A club with a fanbase as big as United's will surely have people against LvG and they already know that. United have million followers worldwide. Even if you get 10 or 20 thousand fans donating on average $10 and raising around 200k it will show noting as it's like less than 1% of the fanbase...
Exactly. That's why I dont think this is about the money at all, its about the timing and the courtesy of letting him finish the season and walk away with his dignity.Btw I nearly forgot - so the narrative seems to be that if we sack him then we pay him this but there was also the story before ..that if we don't hire Jose, then we have to pay him something as well?
I guess this is a stupid joke tbf. If not, cringeworthy.
I dont see it as cringeworthy, myself. People are often complaining about how the fans dont have a way to exert pressure on the board, or let the club know how they are feeling. There have been conversations about whether the crowd should be booing, but obviously this has the disadvantage of potentially undermining the confidence of the team and having a negative impact on results. Others have suggested boycotts of tickers or merchandise, but then as has also been pointed out, there always seem to be others willing to buy tickets vacated by season ticket holders, or buy replica shirts.
Nobody is seriously suggesting the club cant afford to pay off LVG. But raising this amount of money would show a depth of feeling among fans that would make an undeniable statement. It would also show discontent about how we have been left in the dark, a desire to know what is going on. It would be like a petition on steroids, because it costs nothing to sign a petition - people sign petitions about any old shit their FB friends ask them to sign. But you dont put your money into something unless you care about it.
I wouldnt be inclined to give anything significant at this stage because I think the club will act anyway, I dont think its about the money and I dont actually disagree with the concept of letting him leave gracefully, at the end of the season. If he isnt gone at that point, this is something I would consider. Or other ways to let the club know that we are seriously dissatisfied.
Nobody is seriously suggesting the club cant afford to pay off LVG. But raising this amount of money would show a depth of feeling among fans that would make an undeniable statement. It would also show discontent about how we have been left in the dark, a desire to know what is going on. It would be like a petition on steroids, because it costs nothing to sign a petition - people sign petitions about any old shit their FB friends ask them to sign. But you dont put your money into something unless you care about it.
I wouldnt be inclined to give anything significant at this stage because I think the club will act anyway, I dont think its about the money and I dont actually disagree with the concept of letting him leave gracefully, at the end of the season. If he isnt gone at that point, this is something I would consider. Or other ways to let the club know that we are seriously dissatisfied.
There you are. Talk to me!
Never thought it would come to wishing my club fail in their quest to reach the top 4 just for the greater good of our future. Hate Woodward for even putting us in this position.
James Cameron would be proud of the depth that some of the fans have sunk to. There really are no words to describe the levels of cringe.
You really went ahead with it!I'm gonna pitch it on Dragons Den.
Didn't PSG want him?
What about Madrid?
Inter Milan.
Those are just the ones who I have heard of.
I think you hatred for Mourinho is clouding your judgement.
Based on trophy count in the last 11 years, I believe Jose is top of the pile.
I think Guardiola is in 2nd place.
Wow it's doing better than I thought it would.
Don't let the truth get n the way
I put fans in inverted commas because you don't have to be s supporter to buy a shirt. There is plenty of examples on Twitter for example off people who just like every football club in the world and will buy merchandise.
Apart from the fact that he is the most winning-est manager, over the last 12-odd years.
I'd say that's a pretty strong card.
One liners are easy.
How about you give me the names of manager who have won more trophies than Jose, in the last 12 years. Educate me.
Steady on, I was agreeing with you.
Sorry, the Caf only judge by the last 6months or the 'good o days'.Apart from the fact that he is the most winning-est manager, over the last 12-odd years.
I'd say that's a pretty strong card.
Also, I think Cassidy was supporting your point...
Pep oh wait
OK but presumably for those fans who just buy any old club's shirt there is no particular advantage for us? The effect levels itself out.
Unless they buy more of our shirts because we are a bigger club. But that is closely associated with the point about success - people buy Brazil and Barca shirts because they are glamorous and successful. Presumably if we are a boring, mid table English team, we will sell less shirts.
It's only a strong card if there's more than one top club chasing him. Nobody of any consequence is chasing him, including us. Instead he's doing the chasing and he's knows it's not even certain there will be a vacancy for him here.Apart from the fact that he is the most winning-est manager, over the last 12-odd years.
I'd say that's a pretty strong card.
That all adds up to a pretty weak hand.
So only one manager is more "winning" than Jose...in the whole World?
I'd take 2nd best manager in the World any day of the week.
me too.
Pep - King of the two horse leagues. Still dumbfounded at how his achievements are comparable to Mourinho.
The UCL is a great leveler....
In any case they are both great managers. Lets see what Pep does in the prem before we trash him
Is it? Pep winning it with the greatest player of all time at his disposal and fortune of an incredibly talented academy crop, compared to Mourinho winning it with Porto and Inter?
I'm not saying Pep doesn't deserve plaudits for his work at Barcelona, but I value Mourinho's UCL acheivements far more.
That crowd funder thing will do terribly and Woodward will take it as a sign of the fans backing.
Two highlighted words there.
In any case I don't really rate one higher than the other and I don't see why fans of each group feel the need to downplay the others achievements.
They have both done incredibly well, also Pep is yet to manage in the EPL so like I said wait and see before downplaying his work. He has also been managing not as long, very short career so far.
Hopefully he wont find out about it.
I find it petty and unnecessary. Pep vs Jose is the managerial version of the Messi and Ronaldo debate i reckon.
He probably started it.
Surely in times of trouble it is the foreign fans with little cultural ties to United that will be the first to desert us? not saying they're worse fans.. there will of course be exceptions but I am sure alot of our revenue is generated by fans who are not great watchers of our games but followed us due to the likes of Beckham/Ronaldo etc.
The fans have started to turn though, if we make a poll at arsemania it'll be landslide jose,, probably kinda same with us with those againsy quoting romantic notions as a reason
There are still plenty of Arsenal fans around who want Wenger to stay
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