BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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How would foregoing the supposed penalty 'secure him the top job'?

He is saving United 5M that could have been his in hopes that his gesture would make the board realize that how badly he wants the United job and how he is putting the chance to earn free money over the chance to manage United..

All that I have written above is pure guesswork and none of it could be true, just like how some of these reports are. They just make it up as they go. They have covered every eventuality in this saga so they can claim they knew it all along on whatever scenario plays out. So my guess is almost as good as a lot of these "Journalists".
 
That's almost word for word the same article as yesterday from the Telegraph. There is no shame
 
Telegraph exclusive too - does that make it special or do they throw the word about all the time?
 
Palmers big story was that Jose will put Giggs or Gary Neville on his coaching team if he gets the job
 
The papers are missing a trick here with these 'exclusive' rehashes of the same story seen every day since December. They could just go to @Acquire Me for the real exclusive we're all waiting for. I'm sure he'll have a price to give up the info.
 
Palmers big story was that Jose will put Giggs or Gary Neville on his coaching team if he gets the job

Interesting. I recall when we were flirting with LVG it was a pre-requisite for him to have Giggs as assistant manager.. with some nervousness around fans as to whether he'd agree or not. Deja vu.
 

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This is such a boring saga and yet I keep checking this thread every time it gets bumped.
 
We've been hearing the same thing since December. Might as well just cut and paste.
 
Palmers big story was that Jose will put Giggs or Gary Neville on his coaching team if he gets the job
I'm going to believe this is B.S. It would be the worse mistake Jose and the club could make. We'd have war behind the scenes, and Jose does not have Louis's self control once Paul Scholes and co start winding him up whilst Ryan sits there pretending he knows nothing. Plus it would confirm that Ryan has no intention of earning the damn job, but just wait until the next manager fails so he can plunk his ass in the hot seat.

If Jose wants to make a gesture, say he'll do the job for 1M per annum - the Glazers and Ed would love it.
 
This is such a boring saga and yet I keep checking this thread every time it gets bumped.

I check on this thread multiple times a day.
The same story is regurgitated, but it is such a major decision/story that it deserves to be one of the most viewed threads of all time.
 
Palmers big story was that Jose will put Giggs or Gary Neville on his coaching team if he gets the job

I hope Jose asks for Giggs to be gone.
You cannot have a senior member of staff in your ranks, hoping you fail, so he can take your job.
If it were me, I'd want him out.
 
Don't see a reason for Giggs to be a part of Jose's coaching staff. He needs to leave and start building his managerial career.
 
Isn't Mourinho's no.2 always Rui Faria? Giggs would have to take a role lesser than what he supposedly is now.
 
Isn't Mourinho's no.2 always Rui Faria? Giggs would have to take a role lesser than what he supposedly is now.

He always retains someone known at the club. Clarke at Chelsea, Karanka at Madrid etc. Having Neville there would not surprise me at all.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Giggs stays on as assistant coach. The narrative will be "Giggs will take over somewhere down the line"
He'd learn infinite times more from Jose than he would from Van Gaal. Nothing wrong with him taking a low/medium profile coaching assignment.
 
He always retains someone known at the club. Clarke at Chelsea, Karanka at Madrid etc. Having Neville there would not surprise me at all.
Neither of those were his competition in getting the job or after his job so I don't think he will keep Giggs unless he is forced to by the board. Would be ridiculous to force a manager to work with Giggs though so I hope they don't do that

Gary neville hasn't been involved with United in years or the majority of this team so he would be a pointless hire. Not really comparable to Steve Clarke.
 
We've been hearing the same thing since December. Might as well just cut and paste.

In the past week I've seen Jose deal signed and to be announced in a fortnight. Followed by Jose still not signed. Followed by still no talks. Followed by United must pay Jose 5mil if not given contract tonight. Now this Neville Giggs BS.

So, it may or may not happen, but if it does or doesn't, the media have covered every possible scenario to be sure they reported at least one thing correctly.

If we lose tomorrow, it will be Jose in. If we win, it will be LVG stays.
 
Let's talk about this objectively. Giggs as an individual coach or assistant manager.

Let's for a moment forget about him being a united legend, longest serving. Most decorated player. let's just pretend he's coach wilson with a license with 1 year player coach experience, 2 years assistant manager of lvg.

What he objectively offer to the cause? None of his old camaraderie will prominently feature in jose squad (rooney is useless now, carrick needs to retire. I dont make that up but that's seems to be the consensus among united fans)

What coach wilson brings to the table?

Tactical wise : he favors 442 and knows nothing of Jose's playbook
Man management wise : jose aren't exactly chump in managing players, he gets the best out of elmost of his players
Link to the past : something we probablt dont need atm
United value : doesnt help us winning or fighting for 3 years doesnt it?
 
Passing up on Mourinho in order to keep Van Gaal for one more season would be utter madness. His first two seasons have been completely underwhelming, if not absolutely disappointing. There's no way the club are satisfied with what he's done - particularly this season. With each passing week, he seems to provide further evidence that he's stayed too long in the game. If he stays, it won't be due to confidence in Van Gaal's abilities, it will be because the club is hell bent on appointing Giggs for the 2017-18 season.

As romantic a notion as appointing Giggs may be, and as as highly regarded as I'm sure he is by the powers that be, I just can't believe that the club would take such a risk at this point. I don't even necessarily think that Giggs will be a terrible Manager, but circumstances have changed. Much of what happens in professional sports is about timing. It's simply not the right time for Giggs. If we were the class of the league with an established squad, well positioned to dominate for the next few seasons, Giggs may be fine. It would allow him to ease into Management (to the extent possible at a club like United), build his reputation and make small, incremental changes to the squad. Unfortunately, that's just not the reality. Our standing in English football has never been under more threat. There are several clubs with elite Managers and players, along with motivated owners. The squad lacks quality, depth and balance, and remains in transition. Trusting Giggs with that challenge would be a ridiculous thing to do. The stakes are too high.

As a result, I think it's evident that we will hire (or possibly have hired) Mourinho. His track record speaks for itself. While Sir Bobby may care about his personality faults, I don't think his flaws are so significant that the owners, Woodward and the Board do. Since the Glazers took over, the club has left absolutely no doubt that commercial success is a top priority. It's just not logical to think that they would abandon that guiding motivation in relation to a Managerial appointment at this point. Another season of dire football and poor on-field results will have meaningful financial implications. Mourinho is certainly the best bet to steady the ship, complete the rebuild and take United back to the top. Moreover, he's not been closely linked to any other job. His agent has been virtually silent. Most telling of all, Mourinho seems way too content (almost coy) for him not to have the job locked up. He'll be with us next season.
 
Personality speaking I'd take a sore loser than an in law banger.

If we're looking at personality and all sorts of that.

I wouldn't respect my boss/friends/colleague if they did that. What his done with his life is none of my business, but one thing i know is that hr can't be trusted. If he can stab his own flesh and blood be sure he'll have no problem sticking one behind you.

Those that says otherwise are just not being honest, heck there's people wishing for olly to get mauled by a direwolf in the got thread, and that's just tv
 
He'd learn infinite times more from Jose than he would from Van Gaal. Nothing wrong with him taking a low/medium profile coaching assignment.

Totally agree with this. If Giggs is to become a top coach he would be far more similar in style to Mourinho than Van Gaal. If not for the politics, Giggs would be an outstanding candidate.

Rui Faria being involved will not change the "Giggs role". Albert Stuivenberg has the equivalent role to Faria's at United now. It's unlikely Jose wouldn't have a "United man" on the coaching staff. Steve Holland was in that role at Chelsea in his last stint there.
 
Personality speaking I'd take a sore loser than an in law banger.

If we're looking at personality and all sorts of that.

I wouldn't respect my boss/friends/colleague if they did that. What his done with his life is none of my business, but one thing i know is that hr can't be trusted. If he can stab his own flesh and blood be sure he'll have no problem sticking one behind you.

Those that says otherwise are just not being honest, heck there's people wishing for olly to get mauled by a direwolf in the got thread, and that's just tv
Well, stop banging on about it at every opportunity then. It's already become extremely tiresome. Nobody else is bothered - not the management, not the players, not the fans. The only relevant question is his ability in his job.
 
Totally agree with this. If Giggs is to become a top coach he would be far more similar in style to Mourinho than Van Gaal. If not for the politics, Giggs would be an outstanding candidate.

Rui Faria being involved will not change the "Giggs role". Albert Stuivenberg has the equivalent role to Faria's at United now. It's unlikely Jose wouldn't have a "United man" on the coaching staff. Steve Holland was in that role at Chelsea in his last stint there.

And you know this.... how? Giggs is an unknown quantity. Politics or not Giggs would not be an outstanding candidate. Poch would be an outstanding candidate. Or Simeone. See the difference?
 
Manchester United have finally made their opening move to appoint Jose Mourinho in the past three days and the next week will be critical if they are to install him as Louis van Gaal’s successor at the end of the season.

Mourinho, sacked on Dec 17 by Chelsea, wants the job but he has made it clear that he will not simply take it on any terms. His two key requirements are that any new club demonstrate to him that there is stability at the top, a clear structure of command and stability – which is what he feels he was not afforded at Chelsea in the third season of his second spell.
The 53-year-old also wants to begin his job at the very start of the summer, at the end of this season, without negotiations hanging over into the post-season. He wants a clean break from the past and, most importantly, the chance to go into the club, to analyse his squad over the maximum amount of time, to recommend signings and be ready for when the players come back in late July to begin working with the squad.

Van Gaal has one year left on his contract and has deferred any questions over his future to the United board. The two men are friends from their time working together at Barcelona but there are no concerns on Mourinho’s part about taking Van Gaal’s job. Mourinho was assistant to the late Bobby Robson at Barcelona and the speed with which he was removed in 1997 and Van Gaal installed demonstrated to the junior man that friendships and professional opportunities were strictly separate.
Mourinho has used his time away from football to fulfil many of the commercial commitments that are impossible to accommodate when he is working full-time as a manager. This past week he has been in Europe filming a commercial directed by a leading Hollywood name for a new global brand that he is endorsing. The commercial will air over the summer during the Euro 2016 championship.

Mourinho’s contractual talks will still be led by Jorge Mendes, his long-term agent who has been with him throughout his 16-year managerial career. His commercial deals are overseen by the American company CAA who have helped position him as one of those most marketable, and bankable, figures in world sport.
Although United is the obvious destination for Mourinho, he goes into talks this week with other options if agreement cannot be reached with Ed Woodward, the United chief executive. Mourinho has not ruled out the possibility of being asked to take over at Paris Saint-Germain although everything he has said in the past has pointed to him staying in the Premier League which he feels offers the greatest test of a manager’s credentials.

He has maintained his promise, made in the statement issued on his behalf by CAA after his sacking by Chelsea in December, that he would not “attend high-profile games” in order to “discourage speculation about his future”. He feels he has acted honourably at all times and has not fuelled any of the growing speculation around his future.
United have also left it late in the day to make an approach, having not wanted any potential move to undermine Van Gaal while he still has a chance of qualifying for the Champions League and winning the FA Cup final. Were talks with Mourinho to be successful it is anticipated that they would be concluded within the next two weeks and that an announcement would be made at the end of the season.

Telegraph Sport reported on Saturday that Mourinho has endorsed the signings of 18-year-old Portugal international Renato Sanches andEverton defender John Stones. Other major questions, such as the future of Van Gaal’s assistant Ryan Giggs, who also served under David Moyes, remain unresolved and will be part of further discussions.

This is the telegraph article for those who are not arsed clicking the links.
That article is written by Chief football writer of telegraph, sam wallace. He is good reporter, but this article seems to be dictated word by word by mendes group. The negotiations must have commenced but this mou doesnt want it that much unless you want it that much thing is confusing. I think this article is part of the negotiations. its not done... yet and any announcement will be after the F.A. cup final/when united miss top4.
 
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