BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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If things are going well, where would he leave to go to?
Back to Spain, Italy,PSG;there'll be no shortage of offers. Point is,his wife hates England and eventually he'll retire back to Spain or Portugal
 
More than any other issues in appointing Mourinho will be how closely Mourinho works with Mendes' clients. I hope they don't make United their personal bank.
 
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I really don't like Mourinho but he clearly is a very good manager. Heart wouldn't touch him with a barge pole but head says he would probably be the best appointment we could make in terms of becoming genuinely competitive again.

I wish we had gone for Ancelotti, I've wanted him for years, but as it stands I'll grudgingly admit Mourinho is the best available man for the job and just hope if we do get him that he doesn't act like a total prick.

I want to see Mourinho at a club like united where he is not going to be fighting the board, we look at extremes at chelsea and madrid. For me that has been the problem with mourinho, he has picked jobs where the conditions at these clubs are always volatile. Inter was less extreme, but when it was settled like he was at porto and the first 2 years at chelsea, his teams were terrifying. When he took over that chelsea team in 2004, all of us were pretty scared on how good that chelsea team was, 95 pts in 2005 is an amazing points tally. If we can get somewhere with mourinho, he has got some pretty good stuff to work with, all our squad is missing is more meat on the bones and with a better direction from the manager, because we still have a very good squad that feels like a ship without a rudder
 
I like the irony of @Twigginater getting stick for spending a great deal of his money to go and watch a game compared to someone who was saying they don't/or won't watch the game on TV (more like a stream). You are a bad fan Twigginater!
 
Back to Spain, Italy,PSG;there'll be no shortage of offers. Point is,his wife hates England and eventually he'll retire back to Spain or Portugal
Madrid is the only real possibility I reckon, and even then if things are going well and the club wanted him to stay I reckon he could.

This is all assuming he even comes in the first place.
 
I like the irony of @Twigginater getting stick for spending a great deal of his money to go and watch a game compared to someone who was saying they don't/or won't watch the game on TV (more like a stream). You are a bad fan Twigginater!
What difference does it make if someone watches a stream instead of spending loads of money? It's just weird to bring money into it
 
The sad part of that is, Moyes wasn't 1st choice but SAF went the route of recommending the 4th choice manager having stated that he'd never again buy stop gap players....well, he went the way of appointing the managerial equivalent of Ralph Milne!

Moyes was 100% first choice. Don't believe the recent backtrack comments. Fergie knew he messed up and has tried to distance himself from it ever since.
 
What difference does it make if someone watches a stream instead of spending loads of money? It's just weird to bring money into it

I was making the point that someone who goes to watch his team through thick and thin and supports the team no matter what is going to have more an emotional investment in the team than someone who congratulates others for not watching the game.
 
What difference does it make if someone watches a stream instead of spending loads of money? It's just weird to bring money into it

Circumstances permitting, going to attend games makes a great deal of difference. There's a reason teams win more games at home then away from home and that is due to the support. So it helps a great deal not only in that aspect but also what a team can then go and spend on its players.
 
I was making the point that someone who goes to watch his team through thick and thin and supports the team no matter what is going to have more an emotional investment in the team than someone who congratulates others for not watching the game.
Well said. As a season ticket holder for 30 years until recently, I know exactly how that feels
 
I was making the point that someone who goes to watch his team through thick and thin and supports the team no matter what is going to have more an emotional investment in the team than someone who congratulates others for not watching the game.

Not necessarily, doesn't matter if you overpay to go and watch the rubbish in person every game or go a couple of times a season. Doesn't make you any 'more' of a fan.
 
3 years is about as long term as you're going to get!

Says who?

He can't keep moving on - he's not a stupid man and will know that.

He left Chelsea neither time of his own accord. He left Milan - after a lot of success to take a job in Madrid. And he lasted longer there than most managers do.

Even if it is three years, the fact is in any event, most managers last three to four years anyway. Pep has just done three at Bayern and I suspect will do similar at City. Ancellotti hasn't lasted long term anywhere recently either. For the most part it's what modern football is.

If we are looking for long term he's as good a shout as anyone. He clearly wants this job and has done for a while. He isn't likely to use this as a stepping stone to foreign clubs as others might, he says himself he's at home in the PL.
 
The idea that Mourinho ruins clubs when he leaves is just ridiculous and based on nothing. Porto weren't ruined when he left they got stripped of all the best players. Deco/Carvalho/Maniche/Mendes/Ferreira. This isn't new or unique to Porto all the sides who operate outside the top 8-10 in Europe get the same treatment when they have such an incredible run I.E Lyon/Dortmund/Atletico Madrid currently.

When he left Chelsesa they went on to a champions league final with Avram Grant who is completely useless and won the double with Anchelotti using largely the same squad. At Madrid the same squad went on to win the champions league. He creates an incredibly well drilled and disciplined set up everywhere he's been which if anything following managers have benefitted from.

I'm not arguing that he arrives with baggage but he will make very good decisions for the most part. I fully expect Mata and Fellaini to both get binned which is great news and he certainly won't go out and spend 100m to bring back a 31 year old Ronaldo as the other numpty's are liable to do.

If he wins us 1 league title in his time here and we have a decent crack at Europe then I'm fine with it, anything is better than the last 3 seasons of dross we've seen.
 
I know....:(. Its already been highlighted in another thread for folks to have a laugh . Must say , am embarrassed but hey ho:D:D:D!
Hehe don't worry, there's a reason I've got such s ridiculous tagline, result of a similar thing!
 
Moyes was 100% first choice. Don't believe the recent backtrack comments. Fergie knew he messed up and has tried to distance himself from it ever since.
NO it wasn't! He had a meeting with Klopp and definitely phoned Pep. In what reality would he have gone for Moyes as first choice.
 
I was making the point that someone who goes to watch his team through thick and thin and supports the team no matter what is going to have more an emotional investment in the team than someone who congratulates others for not watching the game.
No that guy most likely made that comment because he's been frustrated with the shit football. You going to matches and spendings lots of money doesn't make you anymore of a fan than he is. Sounds like some t.o.p red bs
 
More than any other issues in appointing Mourinho will be how closely Mourinho works with Mendes' clients. I hope they make United their personal bank.
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You want our club used as a piggy bank? We're in debt remember? You want us to go under? People like Mendes only protect their interests. Once the well runs dry they up and leave you with the mess.
 
Says who?

He can't keep moving on - he's not a stupid man and will know that.

He left Chelsea neither time of his own accord. He left Milan - after a lot of success to take a job in Madrid. And he lasted longer there than most managers do.

Even if it is three years, the fact is in any event, most managers last three to four years anyway. Pep has just done three at Bayern and I suspect will do similar at City. Ancellotti hasn't lasted long term anywhere recently either. For the most part it's what modern football is.

If we are looking for long term he's as good a shout as anyone. He clearly wants this job and has done for a while. He isn't likely to use this as a stepping stone to foreign clubs as others might, he says himself he's at home in the PL.

He knows he's not stupid? Wow what brilliant insight!

Point is, with his millions why should he move on? He could retire. Many managers on less, have
 
NO it wasn't! He had a meeting with Klopp and definitely phoned Pep. In what reality would he have gone for Moyes as first choice.

Haha I presume you're trying to troll now. Fergie wanted the guy 'cut from the same cloth', anyone with a pair of eyes could see it was going to be Moyes a mile away. I even had money on it which I put on years before it happened.
 
Haha I presume you're trying to troll now. Fergie wanted the guy 'cut from the same cloth', anyone with a pair of eyes could see it was going to be Moyes a mile away. I even had money on it which I put on years before it happened.
Takes one to know one I suppose. I'm trolling now for expressing an opinion? Wow, there are some complete pillocks that have been promoted of late.
 
Then good riddance really.

For some of us, the last three years under Moyes and Van Gaal have been absolute torture, but at no point have we decided to adjust our interest just because we didnt like what was going on. Thats just being a fairweather fan.
No, a fairweather fan would haven been long gone by december.

To you , we might just be become another rich club, and you'll only truly be happy when we hire a manager that pleases you. For the rest of us, whether Kenny Daglish or Sir Matt is manager, this is not just another club.

Follow Van Gaal to AC Milan instead.
I understand what it means to have no choice at all and I respect the difference, but it's not like that if Mourinho is hired for next year I can pick a different PL side and decide to support them. I'm just predicting that I will get annoyed, feel disappointed and my interest will fade. I see what you are trying to do here but as I want the same thing, there's no reason to dismiss my views beforehand.

It was the wrong choice.

You may not have but their motivation in thinking that is because they believed that it could lead to one step back and two forward. If one defeat meant better long term results then it would be worth it would it not?
Still it seems strange to me, not as much as a distant and purely rational viewpoint, but really hoping for a loss during the game? And if those people really were prepared to take one step back to take two forward, they wouldn't want the manager sacked in the first place. So I think it's more about frustration and not liking someone than about proper judgement.

The choice might work out wrong, but at least it's a choice that's the product of a clear vision on the state of the club, squad and how to get back to the top. Mourinho would just be the easy coward way out for a board that has no vision at all and ignores what has changed the last few years.
 
NO it wasn't! He had a meeting with Klopp and definitely phoned Pep. In what reality would he have gone for Moyes as first choice.
Tbf even by his own words, it doesn't seem that SAF approached them with anything concrete. He didn't pursue anyone else aggressively. That's why I also believe Moyes was always his plan. He made it happen. Anyway, I was hoping he's learnt his lesson but if he really is pushing Giggs - then maybe not. Still love him though:D
 
Who are Mendes best clients.. other than Ronaldo right now?
 
Takes one to know one I suppose. I'm trolling now for expressing an opinion? Wow, there are some complete pillocks that have been promoted of late.

Was more the fact you presented your opinion as fact, you don't know what happened as I don't, but the evidence leans a lot more to the fact Moyes was first choice.

I'm not sure about the recent promotion policy, I was promoted 15 months ago if that is aimed at me.
 
Circumstances permitting, going to attend games makes a great deal of difference. There's a reason teams win more games at home then away from home and that is due to the support. So it helps a great deal not only in that aspect but also what a team can then go and spend on its players.
Yeah but he doesn't know that persons circumstances so why bring up the fact about spending money? I don't think someone spending more money on merchandise and stuff means they are more of a fan than someone else who spends nothing.
 
Was more the fact you presented your opinion as fact, you don't know what happened as I don't, but the evidence leans a lot more to the fact Moyes was first choice.

I'm not sure about the recent promotion policy, I was promoted 15 months ago if that is aimed at me.

Poor decision IMHO.
 
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You want our club used as a piggy bank? We're in debt remember? You want us to go under? People like Mendes only protect their interests. Once the well runs dry they up and leave you with the mess.
See post above, Jazz.
 
Yeah but he doesn't know that persons circumstances so why bring up the fact about spending money? I don't think someone spending more money on merchandise and stuff means they are more of a fan than someone else who spends nothing.

It doesn't really, it matters what is in the heart and mind of a fan with whatever conviction they have in their will. The fact he or whoever does spend money on the club clarifies that intent and conviction. Certainly over someone who is throwing a strop over not watching a game on the TV screen.
 
He knows he's not stupid? Wow what brilliant insight!

Point is, with his millions why should he move on? He could retire. Many managers on less, have

Firstly - you clearly misunderstand what was a very simple sentence.

And yes, he might retire. So might any other. He also may not and may stay for a decade.

Just because he's had three year stunts in the past, doesn't mean he will here.

My point was that in any event, even if he does, it doesn't mean he shouldn't get the job now for a multitude of reasons. He is, to my mind the best man for the job and if he goes in three years, he's likely to leave us having moved is forward whilst in charge.
 
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