BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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It doesn't really, it matters what is in the heart and mind of a fan with whatever conviction they have in their will. The fact he or whoever does spend money on the club clarifies that intent and conviction. Certainly over someone who is throwing a strop over not watching a game on the TV screen.
What strop is this? I've looked at his posts and can't find it. A couple of posts about the football being boring is the worst I can see. Maybe he should buy some United keyrings or something and show some intent and conviction
 
What strop is this? I've looked at his posts and can't find it. A couple of posts about the football being boring is the worst I can see. Maybe he should buy some United keyrings or something and show some intent and conviction

Do as thou will. I don't really want to get in any kind of debate in any great detail about who likes who more. For me, someone who goes to the game portrays that support more. Someone who is going to turn off the TV is no great loss to anyone. That's all there is to it. Just odd that he found himself on the receiving end of it compared to the latter. Strange times reveals strange minds.
 
You guys talks longetivity as if pep poch ancelotti simeone klopp ever last more than 3 years on the same club, or will stay with us for 20 bloody years.

The only way any manager can stay with us for 20 bloody years is if he won shitloads of trophy along the way.

Moyes would have stayed with us for 20 years, but without trophies he will still be sacked within a year.

Saf wasnt given 26 years because he's cut from some highlander cloth, he was given a statue because he won trophies, shitloads of it.

No manager who won nothing will stay 20 years with us, we won't want that, neither the board. Remind me how many people here wants lvg out by today?

Longetivity my arse
 
No that guy most likely made that comment because he's been frustrated with the shit football. You going to matches and spendings lots of money doesn't make you anymore of a fan than he is. Sounds like some t.o.p red bs

To be honest, it probably makes him a better supporter, by definition of the term. He actually makes the effort to go and support the team whilst dickheads like the other poster don't even think it's worth their time to switch on the TV.

I don't think the money being spent was the crux of his original point anyway, his point has just flown over your head.
 
You guys talks longetivity as if pep poch ancelotti simeone klopp ever last more than 3 years on the same club, or will stay with us for 20 bloody years.

The only way any manager can stay with us for 20 bloody years is if he won shitloads of trophy along the way.

Moyes would have stayed with us for 20 years, but without trophies he will still be sacked within a year.

Saf wasnt given 26 years because he's cut from some highlander cloth, he was given a statue because he won trophies, shitloads of it.

No manager who won nothing will stay 20 years with us, we won't want that, neither the board. Remind me how many people here wants lvg out by today?

Longetivity my arse

Spot on.
 
I was making the point that someone who goes to watch his team through thick and thin and supports the team no matter what is going to have more an emotional investment in the team than someone who congratulates others for not watching the game.

Where did I congratulate him? He/She said something along the lines of spending more time with his kids, and I advocated that. I work a full time job, so it's important to segregate time to all aspects of my life, which is why I said I was thinking about missing the game, but I didn't. Like I said, I haven't missed a game and don't intend on doing it. Please stop making shit up.
 
To be honest, it probably makes him a better supporter, by definition of the term. He actually makes the effort to go and support the team whilst dickheads like the other poster don't even think it's worth their time to switch on the TV.

I don't think the money being spent was the crux of his original point anyway, his point has just flown over your head.
He said he watched the game.

If the point is going to games means you care more about the team/club I don't agree with that either. You have people on the other side of the world who wake up at like 3AM to watch us.
 
You guys talks longetivity as if pep poch ancelotti simeone klopp ever last more than 3 years on the same club, or will stay with us for 20 bloody years.

The only way any manager can stay with us for 20 bloody years is if he won shitloads of trophy along the way.

Moyes would have stayed with us for 20 years, but without trophies he will still be sacked within a year.

Saf wasnt given 26 years because he's cut from some highlander cloth, he was given a statue because he won trophies, shitloads of it.

No manager who won nothing will stay 20 years with us, we won't want that, neither the board. Remind me how many people here wants lvg out by today?

Longetivity my arse
Agree. Longevity is simply not a thing in modern football, unless of course you want to be successful and win/compete each and every season. Too many of our fans are stuck in the past with Fergie and his longevity with us. I posted this in a thread on Reddit the other day - SAF was the best. We'll probably never see a man-manager of his ilk ever again. The way he motivated players and commanded respect was incredible.

We were incredibly fortunate to have him as our manager for so long. The level of prosperity and stability that we had under him was so unusual in the history of football, pretty much an anomaly.

If we can have Mourinho for three years and win a few trophies, then I will be more than happy with that.
 
Sir Alex wasn't the norm, he was an exception. I don't know why people expect some manager to come here and stay for 10+ years. It won't happen, get over it! If Mourinho comes here and we win a league title and a good run in the champions league I'm happy.
 
I blindly trusted Sir Alex when he appointed Moyes.

Yep, same here.

Misguided enough, as it turned out. But still, who can blame us? The way I saw it, it was Fergie's last, big move. Hard to take a step back and let cold reason prevail under those circumstances.
 
You guys talks longetivity as if pep poch ancelotti simeone klopp ever last more than 3 years on the same club, or will stay with us for 20 bloody years.

The only way any manager can stay with us for 20 bloody years is if he won shitloads of trophy along the way.

Moyes would have stayed with us for 20 years, but without trophies he will still be sacked within a year.

Saf wasnt given 26 years because he's cut from some highlander cloth, he was given a statue because he won trophies, shitloads of it.

No manager who won nothing will stay 20 years with us, we won't want that, neither the board. Remind me how many people here wants lvg out by today?

Longetivity my arse

Something so simply but hard for some to understand.
 
You guys talks longetivity as if pep poch ancelotti simeone klopp ever last more than 3 years on the same club, or will stay with us for 20 bloody years.

The only way any manager can stay with us for 20 bloody years is if he won shitloads of trophy along the way.

Moyes would have stayed with us for 20 years, but without trophies he will still be sacked within a year.

Saf wasnt given 26 years because he's cut from some highlander cloth, he was given a statue because he won trophies, shitloads of it.

No manager who won nothing will stay 20 years with us, we won't want that, neither the board. Remind me how many people here wants lvg out by today?

Longetivity my arse

Indeed.
And in this day and age, virtually no manager on the planet will stay at the same club, long term (either the club will ask him to go, or he will want to leave, or both).
The days of a manager staying for decades is gone. I think Wenger is one of the last ones left.
 
Circumstances permitting, going to attend games makes a great deal of difference. There's a reason teams win more games at home then away from home and that is due to the support. So it helps a great deal not only in that aspect but also what a team can then go and spend on its players.
Aye. And it is a bit silly to compare watching a match in person to a stream on a device.
 
There are so many aspects of Mourinho I dislike:his personality, his lack of youth promotion, his abundance of hubris, the way he conducts himself, his burnout.

Then there is the aspect of Mourinho I really like: he wins trophies.

I've softened to the thought of him becoming manager because we need someone in charge that can return a ruthless attitude towards winning. As a club, we need to be in a cup final or in with a realistic chance of winning the league. History says Mourinho guarantees that.

What worries me most is where we're going generally as a club and who's coming after Mourinho. I don't think we have definitive leadership internally at the club and seem content to lurch from one manager to the next devoid of a coherent transfer policy and are falling off the pace of the professionalism with which Man City run their club.

So let's give Jose the job; let him bring some silverware back to OT, but in that time before he sparks and fades out, the club have to identify a candidate that fits with the values of the club - whatever it is they believe Manchester United stands for at this point in time.
 
A warning to all those excited by this maybe happening - Mourinho with unlimited power and Mendes in the background, is asking for big trouble. Do you want Jose making decisions to go with Mendes' 'recommendations', spending the club's money recklessly on dross - just like Mendes has done with Lim and Valencia? Doesn't this make any of you feel uneasy?

Jose will probably work in the very short term (I'm sure he'll be super motivated) - but it is foolish to not have a DOF or similar figure, who is there to ensure he is accountable for his actions.

I also cannot forget his actions re the dressing room and his medical staff at Chelsea, what was that all about???? This makes me real anxious.
Also forget about seeing a CBJ given a chance - not going to happen with Mo I don't think.

Why are you guys acting like th Last year's of SAF 's reign was not influenced by flipping Mendes. He sorted the majority of our signings. He only went missing under Moyes.

Basically he's never really left us.
 
Don't like Mourinho, don't know if he would be a success here, would we play more exciting football? Didn't like the dross that United served up from October till the last couple of games either.
Not convinced either that Pep will be an overwhelming success at City .
Not voted yet.
Couldn't sit on the fence any more than that.
Just want us playing good football and winning trophies again, not too much to ask is it?
 
The only players who deserve to be in our team are ones good enough, if the kids aren't good enough, why should they play? Sure Jose has no problem using youth players that can help him and the team achieve the main goals of winning things. But if they're not good enough? I'd rather they didn't play just for the sake of it.
 
No, a fairweather fan would haven been long gone by december.

I understand what it means to have no choice at all and I respect the difference, but it's not like that if Mourinho is hired for next year I can pick a different PL side and decide to support them. I'm just predicting that I will get annoyed, feel disappointed and my interest will fade. I see what you are trying to do here but as I want the same thing, there's no reason to dismiss my views beforehand.

Still it seems strange to me, not as much as a distant and purely rational viewpoint, but really hoping for a loss during the game? And if those people really were prepared to take one step back to take two forward, they wouldn't want the manager sacked in the first place. So I think it's more about frustration and not liking someone than about proper judgement.

The choice might work out wrong, but at least it's a choice that's the product of a clear vision on the state of the club, squad and how to get back to the top. Mourinho would just be the easy coward way out for a board that has no vision at all and ignores what has changed the last few years.
You're only still around because Van Gaal remains. Had he not been manager you wouldn't be here. They would want a manager sacked if they thought he was the wrong choice. Just because you believe Van Gaal is doing great things for our future doesn't mean everyone does and should agree. Nobody has been able to tell us exactly what it is he's leaving behind. We're unbalanced in most positions still.
 
He said he watched the game.

If the point is going to games means you care more about the team/club I don't agree with that either. You have people on the other side of the world who wake up at like 3AM to watch us.

I think it's great the lengths that those people go to in order to watch the games. But I'm talking about actually supporting the team and giving up hard earned cash and time to do so. Especially during such a shite period for the club. Twigginater obviously does that and I think it's ridiculous for him to have any level of criticism levelled at him.
 
What do the Chelsea fans feel about this? Mou wanting desperately to manage one of your main rivals and what happens if he does end up getting the job? @duffer Any other Chelsea fans?
 
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