BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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:lol: f*ck off you cannot be serious. I know Mourinho likes old centre backs that defend deep and are dirty sobs but Carvalho is 38 in a months time. A younger version of him like Godin perhaps or even Smalling is on his way to that style of defending with his increasing number of fouls and grappling with forwards and their shirts.

did not mean to jump!

but Ricardo did not even enter my thoughts.
 
Doesn't promote youngsters and fecks off when going gets tough. That's at all clubs he's been at.

He left Porto because he had just won the treble and had a huge offer from Chelsea. He was sacked by Chelsea in his first stint, he didn't leave. He left Inter after winning the first treble in their history. He was sacked by Madrid and turned them from a side which constantly got KO'd at the last 16 of the CL to a team that makes the semi finals or better every year. He won the title with Chelsea and was sacked in his 2nd stint, at no point did he feck off when the going got tough.
 
@The United.
I take your point. But no manager ticks all the boxes. infact was texting with a mate. He wants van Gaal gone and Giggs installed.
and others here. The big tick for Mourinho is he wins trophies. But that does not mean he will forget Youth policies that have brought us so much success. As I said all part of the 'terms of reference' that any new executive will be given.
As for Fergie as someone posted above...yes. he won all those titles on a tight pursestring compared to what van Gaal was given.

tbh I don't think any of us here want to be put through the torture of watching van Gaal's football another year. Today was one of a few exceptions. In all a very enjoyable match...even before that last minute win.
Oh I agree with you there. If he is United manager next season, I will hope he does well just as i did with Moyes and still do with LVG.

I have seen one of the best manager managing my club for ages. It will be normal and usual for me and others to find lots of faults with other managers. I will just have to deal with it.
 
PSG's chairman has confirmed that Blanc will be the manager next season. Won't stop people from panicking here but I guess you could rule out PSG then.
 
Not really true. If he had bought Sneijder in 2011 we'd have won the league that year, rather than winning nothing. If he had spent even half the Ronaldo money in 2009 we would probably have won the league rather than losing it by the point we did, and not been so reliant on Rooney.

Sneijder? Really? There is people who still think he would have been a good signing for us?
 
I think it's something he has to deal with, and have a plan for -- playing kids. You will have the fans against you if the first thing you do was to bench/get rid of some of our most promising prospects from this season. He knows our team and our history, he will just have to adapt to some degree. I just hope he'll do well, regardless of kids or not, should he come.
 
I know LVGs football has been poor at time this year, but he was out scoring Chelsea when Mourinho was there this year. Imagine how crap their football was.
 
I know LVGs football has been poor at time this year, but he was out scoring Chelsea when Mourinho was there this year. Imagine how crap their football was.

So... LVG > Mourinho then?

By that same point of reference, Leicester are the greatest premierahip team of all time.
 
If he becomes the next United manager I think he will fail. Got a feeling he is past his prime. His recent CV consists of getting sacked by his last 2 clubs, falling out with his last 2 squads, falling out with the respective stars of his last 2 squads in particular, making decisions like selling De Bruyne but keeping Oscar just because the latter puts in more of a shift, getting rid of Lukaku, buying Pedro, buying Filipe Luis and not using him at all, a player who is a starter in a team that is joint top of La Liga with Barca and in the CL semis, desperately wanting to buy Rooney, getting knocked out by 10 men PSG at home etc. etc. A whole lot of questionable decisions and actions. Guardiola in the same city will also bring the worst out of him without a shadow of doubt. Think he will fail.
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I know LVGs football has been poor at time this year, but he was out scoring Chelsea when Mourinho was there this year. Imagine how crap their football was.
Why just use a handful of gmes at the start of this season and ignore the season before when Chelsea finished 1st and we were 4th?

And when you look at Mourinho's career as a whole the start of this season is very much an outlier, it's silly to judge him on that alone.
 
After what I read from de Visser - no I do not want Mourinho as manager.
 
Why just use a handful of gmes at the start of this season and ignore the season before when Chelsea finished 1st and we were 4th?

And when you look at Mourinho's career as a whole the start of this season is very much an outlier, it's silly to judge him on that alone.

Because I predicted this shit season before it happened. When he got to Chelsea. Because I don't see Mourinho as being a manager with a long term plan. At all. He will throw everything at the current season. He manipulates his players into utter cocks, gives them this hatred for everyone else and runs them into the ground.

He would come next year, spend millions, get rid of some talented players who weren't up to his standard right now and then in two years when they're all fecking sick of the absolute cretin he will leave and we will all ask "was it worth it?"
 
Jornal de Noticias is one of Portugal's biggest newspapers, and it's not restricted to sport. Therefore for them to have Jose Mourinho splashed across their front page on Saturday means they think they've got a big story.

With a headline reading 'Jose Mourinho has signed for Manchester (United)', Jornal de Noticias get straight to the point. The article isn't available online and it isn't in their e-paper edition, only in a supplement inside the newspaper.

A little digging and we've found out the claims are: Mourinho has signed, he's been watching Manchester United matches to get an idea of the current squad and deficiencies in it, and he'll have full power on transfers, with the newspaper also pointing out he may well recruit some players from the Portuguese league.

It's not anything that hasn't been claimed before, it would be impossible for anything new to be claimed at this stage... given everything which has been said. However, Manchester United fans who want Mourinho may take comfort in how big Jornal de Noticias have gone with this.

In January, Jornal de Noticias reported that Mourinho was holding meetings with his former Chelsea assistant Rui Faria, talking about their future plans and keeping up their knowledge of players.


http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...tugal-mourinho-has-now-signed-with-man-united

Shades of that Dutch paper reporting that LvG was coming in 2014.. Fingers crossed!
 
It cost us to be fair. The 2010 and 2012 narrow title losses could have been easy wins if we just bought a decent bloody midfielder!

Van Persie felt like the first statement signing in years when he arrived and look how many points we won the league by.

We have spent huge since Fergie left but not many players have come along to be brilliant. Mou's record is very good though in the market if you exclude the Essien's (Madrid), Falcao's and Shevcenko's and other flops that he seems to get hold of always in his 3rd Summer window.

The fact remains - that Mourinho mainly did well because of Ranieri's signings. Mourinho's record was never great at Chelsea
 
Well in theory it sounds nice to kind of "force" him to play youngsters, but that won't end well. It needs to come from the manager and the manager needs to have the desire to develop youth and take risks.

@duffer (can't think of any other Chelsea fans): how was it last season? Did he play youngsters when you were close to win the league anyway / had a comfortable lead? And did he play them after you had won it?

He gave Loftus-Cheek 1 start and Ake & Izzy Brown 1 sub appearance each after we had won the league.

Prior to that nothing in the league. A few games here and there in the cups (depending on the opposition).
 
The fact remains - that Mourinho mainly did well because of Ranieri's signings. Mourinho's record was never great at Chelsea

:lol: Bullshit

Cech
Drogba
Robben
Carvalho
Tiago
Essien

All signed by Mourinho.

The only players, signed by Ranieri, that was a mainstay with Mourinho was Damien Duff and Joe Cole
 
:lol: Bullshit

Cech
Drogba
Robben
Carvalho
Tiago
Essien

All signed by Mourinho.

The only players, signed by Ranieri, that was a mainstay with Mourinho was Damien Duff and Joe Cole

Cech and Robben were not signed by Mourinho.

Their then-manager, Claudio Ranieri, wanted Čech to be understudy to Carlo Cudicini, and made a transfer bid for Čech in January 2004.[17]Although an initial bid was rejected, Rennes agreed to Čech's move to Chelsea for £7 million in February. Čech signed a five-year contract, to commence in July 2004, becoming the most expensive goalkeeper in Chelsea's history

After this good start, PSV could not keep up with rival Ajax and were forced into a fight for second place in the Eredivisie. Robben travelled to London and met with Manchester United coach Sir Alex Ferguson. Ferguson's offer came in much too low for PSV's and Robben's liking; PSV chairman Harry van Raaij told Manchester United the most that their €7 million offer would buy them was a shirt with Robben's autograph. Almost immediately, Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich offered €18 million (£12.1 million), and PSV accepted
 
:lol: Bullshit

Cech
Drogba
Robben
Carvalho
Tiago
Essien

All signed by Mourinho.

The only players, signed by Ranieri, that was a mainstay with Mourinho was Damien Duff and Joe Cole

Cech was signed in February 2004 and Robben in March 2004, so that's Ranieri's.

Besides that Lampard was signed by Ranieri too.
 
Cech and Robben were not signed by Mourinho.

Their then-manager, Claudio Ranieri, wanted Čech to be understudy to Carlo Cudicini, and made a transfer bid for Čech in January 2004.[17]Although an initial bid was rejected, Rennes agreed to Čech's move to Chelsea for £7 million in February. Čech signed a five-year contract, to commence in July 2004, becoming the most expensive goalkeeper in Chelsea's history

After this good start, PSV could not keep up with rival Ajax and were forced into a fight for second place in the Eredivisie. Robben travelled to London and met with Manchester United coach Sir Alex Ferguson. Ferguson's offer came in much too low for PSV's and Robben's liking; PSV chairman Harry van Raaij told Manchester United the most that their €7 million offer would buy them was a shirt with Robben's autograph. Almost immediately, Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich offered €18 million (£12.1 million), and PSV accepted

Cech was signed in February 2004 and Robben in March 2004, so that's Ranieri's.

Besides that Lampard was signed by Ranieri too.

Fair points well made.
However, it is ridiculous to say try and take the credit away from Mourinho for those title wins. He transformed that place.

If that's the case, Pearson's work has won Leicester the league this season.
 
Ranieri did a good job and laid the foundations but Mourinho turned that Chelsea side into a machine.
 
Ranieri did a good job and laid the foundations but Mourinho turned that Chelsea side into a machine.

Of course.

Now, less talk about Mourinho's pedigree - that is well established - and more gushing about that Portuguese paper :drool:
 
Fair points well made.
However, it is ridiculous to say try and take the credit away from Mourinho for those title wins. He transformed that place.

If that's the case, Pearson's work has won Leicester the league this season.

Of course Mourinho and Ranieri are the ones to praise the most, and generally no manager have bought the whole team themselves anyway, that would take about 4-5 years at the same club for that to happen. Klopp is also working with Rodgers' players, he's just doing much better with them.
 
Of course.

Now, less talk about Mourinho's pedigree - that is well established - and more gushing about that Portuguese paper :drool:

It's going to be one hell of a ride :drool:

Can't wait for the responses from those against him when he wins the league....Piss will be brought to the boil :devil:
Guardiola will be carried away in a straight jacket, kicking and screaming like a Donkey with a hernia
 
It's going to be one hell of a ride :drool:

Can't wait for the responses from those against him when he wins the league....Piss will be brought to the boil :devil:
Guardiola will be carried away in a straight jacket, kicking and screaming like a Donkey with a hernia

That's just the thing.. Guardiola will be dreading coming up against him in the league, let alone manage in the same fecking city! The last time Pep had to take a year off :lol: Jose will poke at him at every chance and it will be glorious.
 
That's just the thing.. Guardiola will be dreading coming up against him in the league, let alone manage in the same fecking city! The last time Pep had to take a year off :lol: Jose will poke at him at every chance and it will be glorious.

Indeed. It'll be glorious seeing him wind him up. Can't stand him

There'll be no fecking Fabio at right back this time, Pep! (Still raging over that team selection and bitter)
 
That's just the thing.. Guardiola will be dreading coming up against him in the league, let alone manage in the same fecking city! The last time Pep had to take a year off :lol: Jose will poke at him at every chance and it will be glorious.

:lol:

It will be fun! I can't wait to welcome Mourinho!

He should also bring Pepe with him, just to spice things up. OK, Pepe is old, but he can be a sub for a few special games! :D
 
The amount of people in here trying to discredit Mourinho's achievements is just ridiculous.

We get it, you don't like the guy but he's arguably the best manager of this generation.
 
The amount of people in here trying to discredit Mourinho's achievements is just ridiculous.

We get it, you don't like the guy but he's arguably the best manager of this generation.
You're wasting your breath, pessimism and panic triumph over logic here. ;)
 
Only way for him to change his ways regarding his acting and views about youth is that board with SAF have a strong talk,so he understands what we are about. Even if that happens,doubt it will last,because classless cnut will get on top at the end.
 
it's only because LVG failed in 2 summer transfer windows that he's given so many young players their debuts over his tenure regardless of what he may have us believe

Rashford has been great but no one would not trade sitting top of the league for him still playing for the reserves
 
The amount of people in here trying to discredit Mourinho's achievements is just ridiculous.

We get it, you don't like the guy but he's arguably the best manager of this generation.

You're wasting your breath, pessimism and panic triumph over logic here. ;)
You're wrong. Just look at the poll on top of the page.

Besides, posters aren't criticising his achievements. The reservations few have are his methods and demeanour.
 
Ranieri did a good job and laid the foundations but Mourinho turned that Chelsea side into a machine.
To be honest, I reckon Mourinho's Chelsea is what catapulted us to the glory days of 06-09. It's no secret SAF had to change his whole approach as a result of Mourinho.
 
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