BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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It's a terrible idea, there is no "not necessarily". That forces your team to attack with one less player, it's easier for the defenders who knows that the striker will only be in a very restricted area, it's terrible for the teammates who can only play the ball in a restricted area. It's a restrictive and frankly stupid instruction.
It's even more stupid to be harsh on Rashford when LVG could just allow Martial and Rashford to permute which could allow us to put doubts into the defense and still occupy the middle. This type of instructions demonstrate how Van gaal restricts the players creativity.
Well, it seems to have worked pretty well with Rashford so far. The evidence is on Van Gaal's side in this case.
 
Well, it seems to have worked pretty well with Rashford so far. The evidence is on Van Gaal's side in this case.

There is no evidence, Rashford doesn't play in that area, he moves around. The problem against Spurs was that he played too much on the left when usually he will have an excellent balance in his positioning.

Edit: On Squawka you can see from where he has his touches, you will see that at the exception of the game against Spurs, he plays on the entire width of the field but against Spurs he stayed too much on the left.
 
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Well, it seems to have worked pretty well with Rashford so far. The evidence is on Van Gaal's side in this case.

In a single off case this makes sense. But Van Gaal has had way too bad a record with man management at United. It is natural to be scared from such reports of impact on Rashford's confidence and motivation.
 
How the feck you mean why? You want us to be Chelsea MkII? Where players have that much power,so they could switch turn on/off like button. feck everything if players gets in position where they can 100% be sure to have power to sack any manager they dont like.You think players have clubs best interest when they start turning on managers?

Regarding Moyes,he might be pile of turd and clueless but one thing is to look confused (Vidic and Rio) when he shows you clip of fecking Jagielka and another to moan about freaking chips. Maybe i am way to hooked into Fergie way but i believe that manager must be a top dog,know its not like that in reality at the moment but players should know that some of them will hit exit door before manager if things come to that,otherwise whats the point,having Terry and co scenario where they can just do whatever they want like in AVB case.

You're working on ridiculous extremes. Carrick reportedly sticking up for Rashford at HT (which he evidently would have been right to do so) doesn't equal a Chelsea mentality. Manager is top dog, but an autocratic approach is cancerous if the manager is delusional, which is evidently the case here. Differences of opinion aren't a crime.

Why he didnt stick up for him on the pitch vs City? Oh and i really would like to see him sticking up for Rashford if Fergie was there instead of LvG.

You think Carrick would have had this problem under Fergie? The players were generally all behind the manager for a reason.
 
How the feck you mean why? You want us to be Chelsea MkII? Where players have that much power,so they could switch turn on/off like button. feck everything if players gets in position where they can 100% be sure to have power to sack any manager they dont like.You think players have clubs best interest when they start turning on managers?

This is actually a very good point.
 
Mittens latest piece says LvG, Giggs and Jose aren't the only options for next season. Citing Pochettino as one.

If true, I find it very concerning that we are this close to the end of the season and we still haven't made our minds up who will be the manager next season.
 
Mittens latest piece says LvG, Giggs and Jose aren't the only options for next season. Citing Pochettino as one.

If true, I find it very concerning that we are this close to the end of the season and we still haven't made our minds up who will be the manager next season.
Any member of the caf could write Mitten's 'articles', he knows nothing.
 
Mittens latest piece says LvG, Giggs and Jose aren't the only options for next season. Citing Pochettino as one.

If true, I find it very concerning that we are this close to the end of the season and we still haven't made our minds up who will be the manager next season.
We may have made up our minds but the target may not have yet (eg Pochettino).
 
What in the feck are you all banging on about?

Some rumour that Carrick stood up for Rashford has now become Carrick turning the squad against the manager and turning us into Chelsea and he needs to leave.

You're all insane.

This.
 
You think Carrick would have had this problem under Fergie? The players were generally all behind the manager for a reason.

You think Fergie never had a go at young player?So for sake of discussion lets imagine Fergie did have a go at young player,you think Carrick would stick up for him vs SAF?
 
You think Fergie never had a go at young player?So for sake of discussion lets imagine Fergie did have a go at young player,you think Carrick would stick up for him vs SAF?

I don't think Fergie would be so mindless as to have a go at Rashford during a game he was one of our better players in, if thats what you're asking.

You can't take away an example where Carrick may well have had good reason for voicing a difference of opinion, and compare it to a hypothetical example re Ferguson and assume his logic is on the same level as stupidity as our current manager.

Your approach is a "manager is always right and there will be not one word against it" - thats not a good culture in any professional field let alone football. As someone said, its daft to suddenly think Carrick is causing mutiny with a "chelsea style" mentality.

If anything he should stay for having a pair and protecting the dressing room when needed.
 
What levels exactly? I love Fergie as much as the next person but, the man is/was no angel.

This is the same man, who went on live TV and called a respected ex footballer and English legend a prat, after he called us thugs.

The same man who, went ballistic over Sparky getting a red for kicking someone in the testicles, saying he done nowt wrong.

The same man who accused Blackburn of being a bunch of cowardly bottlers on live tv

The same man who said Leeds were only playing well against United, cheating their manager and that Howard Wilkinson wasn't getting the best out of the Leeds players.

The same guy who told Wenger to piss off back to Japan.

Fergie stooped to anything to win. And damn well he should. You don't win trophies with a club full of Juan Matas.

Mourinho poked a man in the eye. Big deal. Fergie was never any sort of angel. And still isn't. If it came to it, Fergie would hang anyone out to dry to get his hands on a league title. Fact! And I have no problem with it

I was forced from a very young age to follow this club.... My father has been following it since the mid 50s.... If I wanted to follow a shallow, "but the net spend and home grown products" club, who count for nowt, I'd follow Arsenal.

Manchester United has an obligation to be entertaining, to make the fans dream and to challenge for the top honours..... Will Mourinho fix everything? Nope!
Will he help? Too fecking right he will
Great post and so true, it's amazing how some of our followers now think Fergie was a saint, he had some questionable run ins in his tenure.

BBC blanket ban and the rock of Gibraltar were pretty unsavoury incidents away from the field. It's what made him tick and gave him that drive to succeed and utilise his new enemies to propel him to success.

It is for these characteristics that Jose should have got that job 3 years ago, he and Fergie are peas in a pod, busy a shame our board had gone soft after years of gorging out on success, hopefully the past 3 lean years will see a return to the hunger and desire to dominate.
 
You're working in extremes. Either they obey without question at all times, or they cause coup d'etat? Or, they speak up in an open dressing room when required. Its not like Carrick is single handedly organising a mutiny.

Its just that its not in the player's job description to question their own manager. Considering that we don't have a one man army any more as manager + players are getting more and more sensitive (its not just the United ones, players like Terry, Gerrard and now even Totti has thrown the dummy towards the end of their career), then hiring a DOF is getting more important by the hour
 
Its just that its not in the player's job description to question their own manager. Considering that we don't have a one man army any more as manager + players are getting more and more sensitive (its not just the United ones, players like Terry, Gerrard and now even Totti has thrown the dummy towards the end of their career), then hiring a DOF is getting more important by the hour

wtf sort of a point is that? Its not in my job description to question mine either but I still do if I think something isn't correct. Football isn't much different - players have to buy into the philosophy/logic themselves. They aren't robotic slaves to the system. If they struggle to understand decisions they have every right to question it. If they see ill treatment without cause they have a right to question it.

Infact, LVG states quite clearly it is in their job description to challenge, because he has stated he openly welcomes differences of opinions and discussions in the dressing room.
 
Why would we want him to "feck off" if he's rightly standing up for younger players? And if he was part of ringleaders against Moyes whats the problem? Moyes was a pile of turd for us and the players were rightly having none of it.

because it's self serving rather than driven by caring about the younger players or the club.

as bad as both Moyes and LVG have been their reigns will have been made worse by dressing room disunity.
 
Mittens latest piece says LvG, Giggs and Jose aren't the only options for next season. Citing Pochettino as one.

I will add Poch's name to Neymar, Bale, Hummels, etc who were all due to move to MUFC.

I can't see any reason why Poch would move clubs this Summer. He has already been playing musical chairs with clubs, staying 1-2 years at each club and it must be getting tedious for him.
We talk about Mourinho not lasting 4 years. Poch barely lasts for 2!
Besides, we already have an agreement with an elite level manager (something we haven't had since SAF left) and we will pay him a lot of money in compensation, if we back out of that.
 
What in the feck are you all banging on about?

Some rumour that Carrick stood up for Rashford has now become Carrick turning the squad against the manager and turning us into Chelsea and he needs to leave.

You're all insane.

I love it when you go mythbusting.
 
wtf sort of a point is that? Its not in my job description to question mine either but I still do if I think something isn't correct. Football isn't much different - players have to buy into the philosophy/logic themselves. They aren't robotic slaves to the system. If they struggle to understand decisions they have every right to question it. If they see ill treatment without cause they have a right to question it.

Infact, LVG states quite clearly it is in their job description to challenge, because he has stated he openly welcomes differences of opinions and discussions in the dressing room.

Throughout his career SAF had mellowed down and closed an eye or two to many things. He closed an eye to Keano's bullying on the training pitch, to Ronaldo's hissy fits in front of the media (I am a slave thing remember?) and to Paul Scholes constant moaning whenever he was sent on the bench.

However there was a line that he never allowed anyone to cross ie that was when he felt that his authority is threatened. Facing the manager head on in front of other teammates and/or leaking information does sound like going against the manager's authority.
 
So.. Season ticket deadline pushed to June 1st. Part of me thinks that's because we'll announce Mou and hope to take advantage of the interest he'll generate.

Noone else? Alright then..:nervous:
I imagine it's because they've sold feck all!
 
What in the feck are you all banging on about?

Some rumour that Carrick stood up for Rashford has now become Carrick turning the squad against the manager and turning us into Chelsea and he needs to leave.

You're all insane.

:lol: I was so baffled reading it all.
 
Throughout his career SAF had mellowed down and closed an eye or two to many things. He closed an eye to Keano's bullying on the training pitch, to Ronaldo's hissy fits in front of the media (I am a slave thing remember?) and to Paul Scholes constant moaning whenever he was sent on the bench.

However there was a line that he never allowed anyone to cross ie that was when he felt that his authority is threatened. Facing the manager head on in front of other teammates and/or leaking information does sound like going against the manager's authority.

Ferguson is an anomoly of an example - he's a managerial god who no one would confront anyway.

You can respect ones authority and still voice a difference of opinion. You do know that right?
 



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What levels exactly? I love Fergie as much as the next person but, the man is/was no angel.

This is the same man, who went on live TV and called a respected ex footballer and English legend a prat, after he called us thugs.

The same man who, went ballistic over Sparky getting a red for kicking someone in the testicles, saying he done nowt wrong.

The same man who accused Blackburn of being a bunch of cowardly bottlers on live tv

The same man who said Leeds were only playing well against United, cheating their manager and that Howard Wilkinson wasn't getting the best out of the Leeds players.

The same guy who told Wenger to piss off back to Japan.

Fergie stooped to anything to win. And damn well he should. You don't win trophies with a club full of Juan Matas.

Mourinho poked a man in the eye. Big deal. Fergie was never any sort of angel. And still isn't. If it came to it, Fergie would hang anyone out to dry to get his hands on a league title. Fact! And I have no problem with it

I was forced from a very young age to follow this club.... My father has been following it since the mid 50s.... If I wanted to follow a shallow, "but the net spend and home grown products" club, who count for nowt, I'd follow Arsenal.

Manchester United has an obligation to be entertaining, to make the fans dream and to challenge for the top honours..... Will Mourinho fix everything? Nope!
Will he help? Too fecking right he will

All true. We need to stop acting as if Fergie was some kindly old Grandpa and get back to what when we were hated, adored but never ignored. At the moment we're pitied and many of our fans just want to be 'nice'.
 
What in the feck are you all banging on about?

Some rumour that Carrick stood up for Rashford has now become Carrick turning the squad against the manager and turning us into Chelsea and he needs to leave.

You're all insane.

:lol: Well said old chap, are there any sane people left, only a few of us it seems
 
Madman Carrick should be axed for beating LVG up and peeing on his wig.
 
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