I can't answer that. However what I can say is that even in Italy he toyed with the idea of replacing SAF. Its a challenge for him
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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I can't answer that. However what I can say is that even in Italy he toyed with the idea of replacing SAF. Its a challenge for him
I really hope he can attract some big names. If he didn't have such a tiff with Ronaldo then I would say he would be a dead cert for the summer.
One thing he can be sure of is that we won't be signing random players he hasn't heard of on his behalf. I think he is going to love the control he will get here.
One thing he can be sure of is that we won't be signing random players he hasn't heard of on his behalf. I think he is going to love the control he will get here.
Mourinho stated he wanted to settle down and was moving to Chelsea with intentions of being there for a very long time.
Obviously the above never worked in his favour, but why are people assuming he would only be at United for 2-3 years?
There are not many top clubs out there left for him to manage; maybe Madrid if they wanted him back, but there's no way Roman would for a 3rd stint... where else would he manage? the Portuguese national team? in Germany? The guy loves the Premier League, he isn't going anywhere unless his hand is forced - he'd be in it for the long-run at United.
Obviously the above never worked in his favour, but why are people assuming he would only be at United for 2-3 years?
There are not many top clubs out there left for him to manage; maybe Madrid if they wanted him back, but there's no way Roman would for a 3rd stint... where else would he manage? the Portuguese national team? in Germany? The guy loves the Premier League, he isn't going anywhere unless his hand is forced - he'd be in it for the long-run at United.
I see names like Pochettino, Conte or Simeone getting thrown around, but who says they would manage us or even Chelsea at this point?
Conte is just preparing a European tournament with Italy and isnt really that long there, will probably want to manage a world cup too i imagine.
Pochettino is doing well, has a good young team and knows his team, he would need to start all over again. Plus he is similar to LvG, didnt work out that well for us. he could stick a year or two with Tottenham and overperform, then feck off to Real or Barca, they will probably need new managers again in the next years.
And Simeone, nobody knows hs intentions. Maybe he wants to stay for another few years at Atletico, you could think he is available by reading on here, but i dont think he is for now. He is doing well and he will probably move on someday, but is that now at the end of the season? i dont think so, seems happy there currently, with good reason.
I woud assume Chelsea going forAllegri if the rumours are true, shows that the other managers arent really available. I would take Mourinho over Allegri any day of the week.
Conte is just preparing a European tournament with Italy and isnt really that long there, will probably want to manage a world cup too i imagine.
Pochettino is doing well, has a good young team and knows his team, he would need to start all over again. Plus he is similar to LvG, didnt work out that well for us. he could stick a year or two with Tottenham and overperform, then feck off to Real or Barca, they will probably need new managers again in the next years.
And Simeone, nobody knows hs intentions. Maybe he wants to stay for another few years at Atletico, you could think he is available by reading on here, but i dont think he is for now. He is doing well and he will probably move on someday, but is that now at the end of the season? i dont think so, seems happy there currently, with good reason.
I woud assume Chelsea going forAllegri if the rumours are true, shows that the other managers arent really available. I would take Mourinho over Allegri any day of the week.
A man with his ego is probably dying to get back into the ring and prove everyone at Chelsea and Sky Sports that he's still the main man. I imagine he will be more motivated than ever.
What better place to do it than at a gigantic club which is under performing.
He probably salivates at the idea of bringing United back to its former height and make himself man who "really" followed Fergie.
What better place to do it than at a gigantic club which is under performing.
He probably salivates at the idea of bringing United back to its former height and make himself man who "really" followed Fergie.
Would've preferred Pocahontas from spurs but I guess I'll get used to seeing us grind out results.
Exactly! It's a match made in heaven. Jose Mourinho was born to manage Manchester United.
Well, I can't wait for next season to start. The EPL will be massive.
What I do like about Mourinho is he understands the importance of trying to secure the best British players. He made Terry and Lampard the spine of his team and tried to bring Gerrard, Rooney and more recently Stones. I wouldn't be surprised if they were in for Sterling as well.
Somebody like Barkley or Kane may become a target for us if he took over.
Somebody like Barkley or Kane may become a target for us if he took over.
A warning to all those excited by this maybe happening - Mourinho with unlimited power and Mendes in the background, is asking for big trouble. Do you want Jose making decisions to go with Mendes' 'recommendations', spending the club's money recklessly on dross - just like Mendes has done with Lim and Valencia? Doesn't this make any of you feel uneasy?
Jose will probably work in the very short term (I'm sure he'll be super motivated) - but it is foolish to not have a DOF or similar figure, who is there to ensure he is accountable for his actions.
I also cannot forget his actions re the dressing room and his medical staff at Chelsea, what was that all about???? This makes me real anxious.
Also forget about seeing a CBJ given a chance - not going to happen with Mo I don't think.
Jose will probably work in the very short term (I'm sure he'll be super motivated) - but it is foolish to not have a DOF or similar figure, who is there to ensure he is accountable for his actions.
I also cannot forget his actions re the dressing room and his medical staff at Chelsea, what was that all about???? This makes me real anxious.
Also forget about seeing a CBJ given a chance - not going to happen with Mo I don't think.
I reckon he'd go all out for Stones, at least.
Me too but I think he's City's if they want him.
What about Mcnair?
Lol @ the poll. Lots of peeps changing their minds pretty sharpish!
He was Chelsea's player of the season for two years in a row before Jose joined Chelsea..
The only reason cbj is getting a look in is because Shaw is injured. We were that happy with his development we spent 30 million quid on someone else
We could have stepped in ahead of Bayern when he left Barcelona in May 2012. I understand though that Fergie wanted to leave as a champion and he could not be sure at the time, it was after we looked certain to win the league that he got in touch with Pep. If we hadn't won the title in 2013, Ferguson would not have retired.
If we get him and it's still a BIG IF (although you wouldn't think so reading this thread!). Not only will we win the league at least once in the next 3 seasons we will will the CL too.
Fantastic manager with the ego, charisma and winning mentality to go with it.
Fantastic manager with the ego, charisma and winning mentality to go with it.
I think Stones have a higher ceiling.
there are rumours that he knows how to defend too
I think you're right to say 'maybe'. The BBC article has been revised today and includes this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35508280
It sounds like a bit of a step-back by the journalists.
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Fine whatever. He still has been given a chance. Doubt Jose would have done that.
In any case, my bigger worry is him having too much control at United - and honestly fans should worry about that as well.
Do you not get tired of spouting the same old shit in every thread? Then again you've been around for 15 years so perhaps not..
Yes it does. Wish they would stop including Giggs in the picture. The guy does not belong in the same group as all the other mentioned candidates for the simple reason that he's never been a coach, much less to start at a club like United. It's irritating.
There are not many managers in world football that will unflinchingly put academy players in the first team of a big club like Van Gaal does.
Without the result to back him up? Moyes could put anyone there but it wont mean a thing if they dont have the points to back it up.
Develop youth, useful one instead of just for the sake of it
Exactly I find it bizarre, he's been heavily involved in the Moyes and LVG disasters and yet gets linked with the main job. It's just completely ridiculous.
Whatever your opinion is of Mourinho he is undoubtedly one of the worlds top managers and will help to attract the very best players. As good as Potch, Simeone, Conti are I don't think players would be queueing up to play for them in the same way they would Mourinho.
He will come with a bit of baggage and will undoubtedly create a bit more baggage in his time here but the blunt truth is that huge clubs need a big ego to guide them and big egos will, from time to time, ruffle feathers.
Just stare for a bit at ........'Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho.......' it's the only one that properly fits and looks right to take on Guardiola and City.
He will come with a bit of baggage and will undoubtedly create a bit more baggage in his time here but the blunt truth is that huge clubs need a big ego to guide them and big egos will, from time to time, ruffle feathers.
Just stare for a bit at ........'Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho.......' it's the only one that properly fits and looks right to take on Guardiola and City.
Maybe he'll bring Falcao back
Yes I understand that. There's not many managers like LVG willing to stick to his convictions, however wrong it may be sometimes - and in the face of terrible pressure and criticism. So yes, you're right.
I accept we need to get back to winning ways, and I believe Jose will be very motivated if he got his 'dream job' plus the chance to erase the bad performance towards the end of his Chelsea stint. I have no problem with that.
My worries centre mostly on letting him loose at United with not much accountability. Firstly, United need to change their policy asap of giving managers ultimate power - Sir Alex is gone and it doesn't work as we saw when he left and we crumbled. Next, get someone in who's able to communicate very well with all sorts of personalities, and who has great knowledge of the game and ability to maintain, develop etc our infrastructure. Also has a say in our transfer activity etc. Jose should not, in conjunction with Mendes, have total say over such matters. I don't trust him in that respect.
If the club were to put something like the above in place, then I'd be happy to have Mourinho on board. But if they don't, I'll be very worried.
This is the biggest pro, of hiring Mourinho:
And this, is the biggest con:
And this, is the biggest con:
I'd love it to work in the long term, for Jose to settle down and give us a good 5+ years without any major incidents...but experience has proved that Jose and Mendes are trouble makers.
Sitting on the fence with this one.
Sitting on the fence with this one.
Sorry I haven't read the the whole thread, but are the rumours stating if he's expected to take over at the end of the season or earlier?
As many will know, I was one of the big Giggs advocates, but as things stand I think Jose is the best choice by a country mile, with the news of Pep going to City.
If LVG had been more successful here then the situation would be different. I envisaged that Louis would be here for three years, that he would have some success and leave behind a good team for his successor, and win a couple of trophies. With this foundation Giggs would be able to step in and take over easily, continuing and building on what LVG had put in place.
Unfortunately as things stand, the team has some good players but is generally performing poorly. This combined with the Pep announcement means that in my opinion, the job would be simply too big for Giggs at this time. In order to stay competitive Jose is the best option - he has gone toe-to-toe with Pep in the past and done well, he virtually guarantees trophies, he seems to have fancied the job for a long time. He is what we need right now for the immediate future.
I dont think that Pep will be a guaranteed success at City by any means, but with the strength of the PL and having about 8 teams who could all realistically have top-four aspirations, a few bad years could see us slip down the table substantially. It is a risk we cannot afford to take.
If LVG had been more successful here then the situation would be different. I envisaged that Louis would be here for three years, that he would have some success and leave behind a good team for his successor, and win a couple of trophies. With this foundation Giggs would be able to step in and take over easily, continuing and building on what LVG had put in place.
Unfortunately as things stand, the team has some good players but is generally performing poorly. This combined with the Pep announcement means that in my opinion, the job would be simply too big for Giggs at this time. In order to stay competitive Jose is the best option - he has gone toe-to-toe with Pep in the past and done well, he virtually guarantees trophies, he seems to have fancied the job for a long time. He is what we need right now for the immediate future.
I dont think that Pep will be a guaranteed success at City by any means, but with the strength of the PL and having about 8 teams who could all realistically have top-four aspirations, a few bad years could see us slip down the table substantially. It is a risk we cannot afford to take.
Please please please be true.
The clear up the playing style argument with my own views..
Chelsea(+Money) 1st - Great attacking football, broke all records
Inter(+Money) - Counter attacking team, mix of defensive and attacking
Madrid(+Money) - Counter attacking, broke scoring records
Chelsea(Budget) - Counter attacking team with mostly defensive setup, we're only seeing now how average that Chelsea team is so he did what he had to do to win the league and that was playing to their strengths. Earlier in the season they had a fear factor of Jose that's why they were allowed play such attacking football IMO.
We'll be defensive counter attacking team next season I think, our squad isn't good enough at attacking but we've all the money in the world and I honestly think in 2 seasons we'll be attacking like the old days.
Chelsea(+Money) 1st - Great attacking football, broke all records
Inter(+Money) - Counter attacking team, mix of defensive and attacking
Madrid(+Money) - Counter attacking, broke scoring records
Chelsea(Budget) - Counter attacking team with mostly defensive setup, we're only seeing now how average that Chelsea team is so he did what he had to do to win the league and that was playing to their strengths. Earlier in the season they had a fear factor of Jose that's why they were allowed play such attacking football IMO.
We'll be defensive counter attacking team next season I think, our squad isn't good enough at attacking but we've all the money in the world and I honestly think in 2 seasons we'll be attacking like the old days.
I don't care about playing style. Mourinho needs to stick what he's good at and not try to pander to all the United way bollocks.
The rumours are simply that there has been a meeting. Nothing is decided, yet.
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