BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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These fecking 'journalists' should put their money where their mouths are and offer to resign if they are wrong.
You would never see such stories again. The fact that it's these feckers telling says it is not happening to me.
 
I don't want Mourinho. I want someone who is here longterm cause we need stability now. Also I want someone who likes homegrown players and two extremely speedy feckers on the wings.
 
Do you guys think Mourinho will be a long term solution at United? What if he comes and buys players he likes or were there with him at his previous clubs which might stagnate the growth of players like Rashford etc or WORSE what if he keeps Rooney as the captain and continues playing him?

I don't dislike the guy but for me (i could be wrong) it feels like his only way to solve problems in the team is to throw money at a new player and if he doesn't get his way, he will create a fuss and end up quitting.

For me he is the obvious choice if the other option is Giggs but i wish we had someone for the long term who will sort out the issues in the team.
 
Do you guys think Mourinho will be a long term solution at United? What if he comes and buys players he likes or were there with him at his previous clubs which might stagnate the growth of players like Rashford etc or WORSE what if he keeps Rooney as the captain and continues playing him?

I don't dislike the guy but for me (i could be wrong) it feels like his only way to solve problems in the team is to throw money at a new player and if he doesn't get his way, he will create a fuss and end up quitting.

For me he is the obvious choice if the other option is Giggs but i wish we had someone for the long term who will sort out the issues in the team.
If there aren't any long term option available then what choice do we have? You never know Jose might actually enjoy managing this club and stay. Pep isn't a long term option, so City will need another manager shortly. Moyes was supposed to be the long term option but look how that ended. SAF/Busby/Wenger will never happen again.
 
Mourinho did a great job with inter's youth system. Here is an article before he was chelsea manager.


What? Isn't it proven science that he murders and eats all young players and has never given a single minute to anyone below 30 and in fact has not even spoken to any players below 25? He hates youth SO MUCH apparently.
 
Do you guys think Mourinho will be a long term solution at United? What if he comes and buys players he likes or were there with him at his previous clubs which might stagnate the growth of players like Rashford etc or WORSE what if he keeps Rooney as the captain and continues playing him?

I don't dislike the guy but for me (i could be wrong) it feels like his only way to solve problems in the team is to throw money at a new player and if he doesn't get his way, he will create a fuss and end up quitting.

For me he is the obvious choice if the other option is Giggs but i wish we had someone for the long term who will sort out the issues in the team.

If Rashford trains well Mourinho will like him, if he doesn't, Mourinho will have a problem with him. Mourinho isn't a monster, he evaluates players like every other managers and most of the time he evaluates them correctly.
 
Do you guys think Mourinho will be a long term solution at United? What if he comes and buys players he likes or were there with him at his previous clubs which might stagnate the growth of players like Rashford etc or WORSE what if he keeps Rooney as the captain and continues playing him?

I don't dislike the guy but for me (i could be wrong) it feels like his only way to solve problems in the team is to throw money at a new player and if he doesn't get his way, he will create a fuss and end up quitting.

For me he is the obvious choice if the other option is Giggs but i wish we had someone for the long term who will sort out the issues in the team.

I feel that José should succeed at United. So many elements are in his favour here, from spending money to non-interference from the owners, that he should be able to make us regular title challengers. Europe is a different matter for all sorts of reasons; but the priority for quite a while should be domestic improvement anyway. Also, he'll have a malleable squad of generally well-behaved personalties even before any playing staff additions - it's hard to resist the conclusion that, should he fail at United, it'd be because of his own folly. But this club, so unlike Chelsea and Real, offers him a real chance to be content and to improve his record of success over far more than the standard three years.
 
Do you guys think Mourinho will be a long term solution at United? What if he comes and buys players he likes or were there with him at his previous clubs which might stagnate the growth of players like Rashford etc or WORSE what if he keeps Rooney as the captain and continues playing him?

I don't dislike the guy but for me (i could be wrong) it feels like his only way to solve problems in the team is to throw money at a new player and if he doesn't get his way, he will create a fuss and end up quitting.

For me he is the obvious choice if the other option is Giggs but i wish we had someone for the long term who will sort out the issues in the team.

Does it matter if he is here for three years or ten? No, we need someone to come in and turn the ship around and José is probably our best chance of that.

If players like Rashford, TFM and Lingard continue to develop I'm sure he'll find a place for them in his squad.

What if Rooney discovers a new lease of life under José? Rooney is far from the biggest problem that United have, if he stays why would he take the captaincy away from him? Is a shit captain? I'll grant you he's no Roy Keane but he plays with his heart on his sleeve and he's not afraid to call somebody out that isn't pulling their weight.

The idea of a long term appointment is fantasy and right now there isn't a better option out there than Mourinho.
 
Do you guys think Mourinho will be a long term solution at United?

What do you class as long term? Going by my definition, although I'd like him at United, I've never seen him as that.

What somebody who fits that category is wishful thinking at this point because it's more likely to fail and just contribute to the decline. Whilst Mourinho doesn't offer that option, he easily looks like the most suitable candidate to steady the ship, something United desperately need right now. There's not a manager out there who can guarantee he'll bring stability and be a long-term choice. Seems like a Fergie hangover that we need to get rid of if we're to be realistic about where this club is going.
 
I would love to see Rooney become a better player under José Mourinho. Rooney is a legend and it would be great to see him finish his career on a better note than if he were sold in the summer. Its possible that a new manager can be a difference.
 
If there aren't any long term option available then what choice do we have? You never know Jose might actually enjoy managing this club and stay. Pep isn't a long term option, so City will need another manager shortly. Moyes was supposed to be the long term option but look how that ended. SAF/Busby/Wenger will never happen again.
I wouldn't see why he would leave, only option left to do would be international management.

I doubt he will want to do that anytime soon, it's not like he can just get the United job again after being Portugal manager for 2 years.

This is the job he has been craving for since he came to England.

I can see him staying for over 4/5 years if he is a success.

He might want to prove that he is in the mould of Wenger and SAF and stay long long term, he would become legendary status if he stayed 8+ years being a success.

And I really think he has it in him to emulate SAF and be a constant success and build a Dynasty with promoting youth.

Yes it sounds crazy but I generally think we will see a whole new side of Mourinho when he signs.

He will put to bed all the 'doesn't give youth a chance' questions within his first season.

And staying long term I think is his plan.

And like I said before it would secure his place as one of the top managers football has ever seen.
 
Longterm is three years, it's 2016. People need to wakeup to reality.
I don't believe in changing managers all the time. I didn't like it when we sacked Atkinson but in hindsight that was the best thing ever. BUT we could have sacked Fergie in 89 and it would have been a different Manchester United history. Get a young manager who wants to play attacking flowing football with pace and give him time just like we gave Fergie time. Also he should prefer players like Rashford to mercenaries. Success is built on longterm, togetherness, homegrowns with the odd superstarsigning.
 
No if you mean if I'm a Manc. But I want a british core in the team, preferably brought up in United

same mate. Its not as if we're not spoiled for choice. Giggs, Neville, tea lady
 
I don't believe in changing managers all the time. I didn't like it when we sacked Atkinson but in hindsight that was the best thing ever. BUT we could have sacked Fergie in 89 and it would have been a different Manchester United history. Get a young manager who wants to play attacking flowing football with pace and give him time just like we gave Fergie time. Also he should prefer players like Rashford to mercenaries. Success is built on longterm, togetherness, homegrowns with the odd superstarsigning.
You say that a young manager would prefer the kids. However if he knows there is money to spend, don't think his eyes wouldn't light up at the prospect of spending it. A midtable club is where a young manager should move up to prove himself further, then maybe a big club will come along in the future. Manchester United is an institution on a massive scale, a young manager could be swallowed up and spat out by it. This club needs experience and a big, big personality to manage it. LvG has learnt that every week you can end up with a media punch up on your hands. You need someone who can stand up for themselves, but can also charm the birds from the trees when needed.
 
You say that a young manager would prefer the kids. However if he knows there is money to spend, don't think his eyes wouldn't light up at the prospect of spending it. A midtable club is where a young manager should move up to prove himself further, then maybe a big club will come along in the future. Manchester United is an institution on a massive scale, a young manager could be swallowed up and spat out by it. This club needs experience and a big, big personality to manage it. LvG has learnt that every week you can end up with a media punch up on your hands. You need someone who can stand up for themselves, but can also charm the birds from the trees when needed.
I don't say a yongie would prefer the kids. I want a manager (preferably youngish) that understands Manchester United. It's always important to get players from within because you can't buy heart. And attacking pacey football with out and out wingers just like Coppell and Hill. That is what I want, trophies will (and there is gonna be loads of them) be a bonus
 
I don't believe in changing managers all the time. I didn't like it when we sacked Atkinson but in hindsight that was the best thing ever. BUT we could have sacked Fergie in 89 and it would have been a different Manchester United history. Get a young manager who wants to play attacking flowing football with pace and give him time just like we gave Fergie time. Also he should prefer players like Rashford to mercenaries. Success is built on longterm, togetherness, homegrowns with the odd superstarsigning.
Finding the best manager of his generation isn't as easy as getting a young un' who wants to play attacking flowing football and giving him time. If we give years upon years to someone who just isn't good enough it does irreparable damage to the club. And that's what we had in Fergie, the best of his generation. I really can't imagine us finding another like him.
 
Mourinho seems to really want the job, why do we then need to make him the highest earning manager?
If he really wants the job, pay him less.

Why do people take for granted that Mourinho will only be short term?
Except from the sackings from Chelsea, and the really stupid one from Real madrid, he has taken a step up when changing club.
I'm pretty sure he sees how big United is as a club, and wants to stay for a while, not talking Fergusn or Wenger-long, but more than 2-3 years.
And as others have mentioned before, not many managers at top clubs stay longer than 3 years.
Big clubs expect results, so they change manager more easily if they don't get the results they expect.
 
Well I 'd rather take one of those three than Mourinho. Mou is an arrogant bitch who think he is the most important man in the world. To be honest I want Warren Joyce or Giggsy

You are a mad swede :) Mourinho is done, so its better to get used to it. I am really happy that we got him. We need a manager like him.
 
Finding the best manager of his generation isn't as easy as getting a young un' who wants to play attacking flowing football and giving him time. If we give years upon years to someone who just isn't good enough it does irreparable damage to the club. And that's what we had in Fergie, the best of his generation. I really can't imagine us finding another like him.
Yes you are right. But to me, and I might be alone in this, our way of playing football is the most important thing. I want to be exited when I watch them and that was not the case in the 88/89 season and I admit I wanted the scot out. Milne, Mal Donkey, Blackmore, Davenport selling Whiteside, Strachan and McGrath. I thought he was the biggest idiot on Earth but he proved me wrong and he was the best thing happening to our club alongside Busby. But those two brought up players within the club, togetherness was important and proved that one can be authoritacal but still a great human being
 
Quantity yes, quality wise...

It's not a bad investment, we saved millions by having squad fillers like oshea, brown, etc.

But it's certainly not la messia

Well La Masia hasn't produced another Messi or Xavi for a decade now either!
Do not like,
Disband.
 
I wouldn't see why he would leave, only option left to do would be international management.

I doubt he will want to do that anytime soon, it's not like he can just get the United job again after being Portugal manager for 2 years.

This is the job he has been craving for since he came to England.

I can see him staying for over 4/5 years if he is a success.

He might want to prove that he is in the mould of Wenger and SAF and stay long long term, he would become legendary status if he stayed 8+ years being a success.

And I really think he has it in him to emulate SAF and be a constant success and build a Dynasty with promoting youth.

Yes it sounds crazy but I generally think we will see a whole new side of Mourinho when he signs.

He will put to bed all the 'doesn't give youth a chance' questions within his first season.

And staying long term I think is his plan.

And like I said before it would secure his place as one of the top managers football has ever seen.

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Well I 'd rather take one of those three than Mourinho. Mou is an arrogant bitch who think he is the most important man in the world. To be honest I want Warren Joyce or Giggsy

Moyes failed, even though he was an experienced manager. The pressure was too much for him and towards his final days, the guy had no idea what to do and to be honest, he was "done".
LVG is failing. He is constantly talking about being sacked by the press 4 times (or is 5 times, now?)
What makes you think that a man who has never managed in his life before is going to do better than Moyes and LVG? Do you have some inside knowledge?

To turn the ship around (we are in 6th place, remember this), we need to rebuild the squad. A rookie manager simply won't know what to do. We need an A-Lister. Ancelotti, Guardiola and Jose are the only ones who fit the bill.
Giggs wouldn't even make the top 100 list of managers, let alone top 3. Even Moyes would've been higher on the list.

Warren Joyce could be an option.
 
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I wouldn't see why he would leave, only option left to do would be international management.

I doubt he will want to do that anytime soon, it's not like he can just get the United job again after being Portugal manager for 2 years.

This is the job he has been craving for since he came to England.

I can see him staying for over 4/5 years if he is a success.


He might want to prove that he is in the mould of Wenger and SAF and stay long long term, he would become legendary status if he stayed 8+ years being a success.

And I really think he has it in him to emulate SAF and be a constant success and build a Dynasty with promoting youth.

Yes it sounds crazy but I generally think we will see a whole new side of Mourinho when he signs.

He will put to bed all the 'doesn't give youth a chance' questions within his first season.

And staying long term I think is his plan.


And like I said before it would secure his place as one of the top managers football has ever seen.

Interested to hear what makes you believe this? Is there any logic behind it or just what you hope happens?

All the evidence suggests he falls out with everyone within a few years, doesn't trust young players or adventurous tactics and his behaviour becomes much worse as the team declines
 
I read an article about Mourinho when he went back to Chelsea. In it, he was quoted as saying that he wanted to build a legacy at Chelsea, and that he had signed a four year deal and after that he would sit down with the owner and decide whether he should stay or go.

He made it clear though that he could see himself there for a long time before taking his last job in football which would be taking a national team (preferably Portugal or England) to the world cup. He also said that he would probably be looking at retiring at 65.

So if he did go back to Chelsea with a view to a long term appointment, there is no reason why the same would not apply if he came to Man Utd.
 
The long term factor shouldn't remain on the managers but on the club structures. Sometimes managers lose dressing rooms and there's no way back. They can get exhausted at some point, especially the ones with more pressure around, or maybe they have problems with the board, or any other thing. 3 years for a manager is a good and healthy amount of time. My problem with 'long term' and 'Mourinho' is about his contributions to the club in a more deep level, results aside.

I see clubs like Barcelona, Bayern, who know what they want in terms of style. They are ambitious tactically and they develop along the years, building at the same time they try to fight for trophies. When a manager leaves and a new one takes over, he has a developed team and they don't need to work from zero. And Mourinho, to my eyes at least, is not a manager who builds anything solid or complex during his tenures.

His short-term management is excellent, because he knows how to extract 120 % from the squad both physical and mentally. He analyzes every detail about the opposition, so he sets the team differently depending on what's needed. You can go sure to every match, because he'll know how to face it. But I think all his teams lacked tactical deepness, they remain basic even if he makes some improvements. When they drop the levels of intensity just a little you don't have anything solid there.

And it's very difficult for a team to keep the level of focus, hunger, aggression, and the physical demand he normally sets to be competitive. In the last 6 years in 2 different clubs he's won two leagues. After the first one at Real, he started the next season and he lost the chances of winning it in September. After winning his last league with Chelsea, we all know what happened.

We can say he knows how to make a team to achieve even above their expectations. But I don't find interesting to reach a high competitive level, if you can't keep some minimums after that. He's lost two dressing rooms in a row after achieving in his second season, and I don't think his aggressive management is sustainable in the long run.

Some people say that "maybe he's thinking long term now". The key to remain for more time will be to reduce his short term demands, and this will have a negative impact on immediate results. He's been successful in the past because he's an 'explosive' manager, and this is his style. He's not a builder, or someone who works with slow fire. If he changes his methods we'll be hiring a different manager, a total unknown.

If we're going to sign him I'd rather he keeps doing the same he always did. If our current board don't have a clue of what to do, and how to build something properly, let's get someone at least who can make us competitive, unlike the last clowns we appointed. But I think the Mourinho signing would be something to accept with resignation, not something to celebrate.

This is not the way of doing things for a club like us, and I find this decision amateurish, irresponsible and based on desperation. A decent club works in a more professional manner, with football people, 'tunned' with the modern times, ruling the destinies. A more solid plan and better definition in term of ideas, values, tactical ambitions. Our club is empty and we look for someone who can fill it all by himself. If we sign Mourinho and he ends being a failure or not convincing us, he won't be the one to blame.
 
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