BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?

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Adisa said:
Maybe but it's undeniable that his record is very poor.
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How so? I can't say I've ever followed Porto but at the three clubs he was at since Porto (Chelsea x2, Inter, Madrid) he's managed to do well at the academy with Inter as it mentions above but it is right to write him off for his spells at Chelsea who's owner is obsessed with winning and rather do it the faster way and buy ready made players and Madrid use the exact same philosophy.

I'm not saying Mourinho will be the messiah of our youth but I think it's unfair to judge his career since Porto as mentioned above. Personally I think he'll do very well with our youth system, he knows the Manchester United tradition and the fact we've brilliant players coming through will make it a whole lot easier.
 
I think Mourinho knows that he will have to make a few concessions to get the job here and Woodward was pretty clear in that teleconference with investors, I would say pointed, about how the youth and giving them chances was the cornerstone of our plans. Woodward is a moneyman and he surely knows its cheaper to fill the team with youth and this why changes are being made to the academy. This, I'm certain, will be a condition precedent along with his behaviour.
 
The idea that United have this incomparable commitment and skill in devolving youth is fallacy really.

We haven't produce a top player from the youth setup in 20 years.
 
itso 7 said:
I think Mourinho knows that he will have to make a few concessions to get the job here and Woodward was pretty clear in that teleconference with investors, I would say pointed, about how the youth and giving them chances was the cornerstone of our plans. Woodward is a moneyman and he surely knows its cheaper to fill the team with youth and this why changes are being made to the academy. This, I'm certain, will be a condition precedent along with his behaviour.
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It's also good for the brand he is desperate to flog around the world.
 
KingMinger22 said:
The idea that United have this incomparable commitment and skill in devolving youth is fallacy really.

We haven't produce a top player from the youth setup in 20 years.
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Doesn't our academy still have the most produced players currently playing in the Premier League?
Players like Drinkwater, Shawcross, Simpson, Bardsley etc etc may not have made it at United but we still produce a lot of PL tier players and through out all the various divisions.
 


I know this has surely been posted before, but he really is made for the job, and wants it. I just really hope it happens.
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
Love how he gives mentions for Celtic and Valencia being an obstacle for him but has a dig at Arsenal :lol:

Remember his response to Wayne's transfer request.

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The Arsenal dig was hilarious :lol:

I just want him, this version of him, not the one we have seen last year, the miserable one and throwing players under the bus type.
 
KingMinger22 said:
The idea that United have this incomparable commitment and skill in devolving youth is fallacy really.

We haven't produce a top player from the youth setup in 20 years.
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Big clubs don't necessarily have youth setups to produce that one single top class player, but instead to produce a stream of decent players.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Doesn't our academy still have the most produced players currently playing in the Premier League?
Players like Drinkwater, Shawcross, Simpson, Bardsley etc etc may not have made it at United but we still produce a lot of PL tier players and through out all the various divisions.
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Quantity yes, quality wise...

It's not a bad investment, we saved millions by having squad fillers like oshea, brown, etc.

But it's certainly not la messia
 
BennyBlanco said:
Doesn't our academy still have the most produced players currently playing in the Premier League?
Players like Drinkwater, Shawcross, Simpson, Bardsley etc etc may not have made it at United but we still produce a lot of PL tier players and through out all the various divisions.
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Who cares if our acamedy producers players for other teams?

If not producing youth players good enough for other teams is the main gripe against Mourinho can't say I see the problem.
 
IgnorantLobster said:


I know this has surely been posted before, but he really is made for the job, and wants it. I just really hope it happens.
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"Celtic, Paris, Valencia...I don't believe Arsenal can do it, i'm sorry but i don't."

:lol: Trolling Wenger from a different country.
 
buckooo1978 said:
19 top players snd 4 youth team players? Hardly a big investment in Youth is it - by that reckoning we would keep 4 players from CBJ, Rashford, Lingard, Pereira, Januzaj, Fosu-Mensah, Riley, Weir and others who might break through like Tuanzebe
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Just because they aren't assigned to the first team squad permanently that doesn't mean you're never going to use them if injuries demand or circumstances - cup games, dead matches in the CL group stage (chance would be a fine thing) - allow.

If you actually look at the United and Chelsea squads there's scarcely any difference in the age profiles.
30 and over - United 5 and Chelsea 5
25 to 29 - United 10 and Chelsea 11
22 to 24 - United 6 and Chelsea 3
20 to 21 - United 5 and Chelsea 6

Very similar structures. The only real difference is the injury rate.
 
Dreaded said:
Who cares if our acamedy producers players for other teams?

If not producing youth players good enough for other teams is the main gripe against Mourinho can't say I see the problem.
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We have always produced players for other teams and will continue to do so. As you say we haven't been producing top class players for our side and only time will tell if the kids who have been blooded this year will be good enough. That is not Jose's fault, that is our clubs fault.
 
I share his deep and inner dislike for Arse. For his trolling of them alone, I'd welcome him here with open arms.
 
Mainoldo said:
In the past 10 years after numerous managers.. I can't remember a decent youth player coming out of Chelsea. So it's not just Mourinho.
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It's also worth asking how many ex-Chelsea youth players have gone on to do much elsewhere.

Have any of them gone on to establish themselves in top/mid-table PL teams? I guess you could say Sturridge, but his time at Chelsea didn't coincide with Mourinho's so you can't blame Mou for his sale to Liverpool. Bertrand is another one, but he's decent rather than top-class - at this juncture, you certainly wouldn't say Chelsea have made a huge mistake letting him go.

Yes Chelsea are perennially strong at youth level, but it seems their kids struggle to breakthrough when they reach full maturity. If Chelsea's system was an English La Masia, churning out players of the calibre of Iniesta or Busquets, one could blame Mourinho for rejecting them, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
 
JohnnyKills said:
It's also worth asking how many ex-Chelsea youth players have gone on to do much elsewhere.

Have any of them gone on to establish themselves in top/mid-table PL teams? I guess you could say Sturridge, but his time at Chelsea didn't coincide with Mourinho's so you can't blame Mou for his sale to Liverpool. Bertrand is another one, but he's decent rather than top-class - at this juncture, you certainly wouldn't say Chelsea have made a huge mistake letting him go.

Yes Chelsea are perennially strong at youth level, but it seems their kids struggle to breakthrough when they reach full maturity. If Chelsea's system was an English La Masia, churning out players of the calibre of Iniesta or Busquets, one could blame Mourinho for rejecting them, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
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Sturridge isn't even a product of Chelsea's academy i don't think. Didn't he start out at City.
 
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£20m a year? I'm calling bullshit on that. Maybe if it contains loads of winning bonuses but not a hope we're going paying a manager who needs us as much as we need him, £20m a year.
 
Trizy said:
£20m a year? I'm calling bullshit on that. Maybe if it contains loads of winning bonuses but not a hope we're going paying a manager who needs us as much as we need him, £20m a year.
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It says that figure is including bonuses for titles and cups won, so would probably only be paid if we literally won everything each season for 3 years.

Plus, it's The Sun, so it's almost certainly bullshit.
 
That sounds like a highly unrealistic contract for a manager with very little options other than to go off to China or wait until after the Euros and apply for the Portugal job.

Keeping in mind the massive upturn in Chelsea since they binned him then his stock has never been lower, not like he can demand that.
 
endless_wheelies said:
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Like he has any say in the matter.

LawCharltonBest said:
Jose Mourinho set to eclipse Pep Guardiola to become highest paid boss ever at Manchester United

United are ready to offer a whopping £60m deal to the former Chelsea boss

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...hest-paid-boss-ever-at-Manchester-United.html

(I know it's just the Sun, but Custis is one of the journos that Ed has previously briefed)
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He's clueless, don't kid yourself.
 
Trizy said:
£20m a year? I'm calling bullshit on that. Maybe if it contains loads of winning bonuses but not a hope we're going paying a manager who needs us as much as we need him, £20m a year.
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Yeah it reeks of steaming bullshit to me. Why would we pay Mourinho more than City are paying Guardiola, given Pep was coveted by every club on earth and Mourinho is desperate for another big job?
 
IgnorantLobster said:


I know this has surely been posted before, but he really is made for the job, and wants it. I just really hope it happens.
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That match is perfect for that other thread. Our squad wasn't a patch on theirs on paper, but we were right on top in that second leg, and should have won the tie.
 
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