Im talking about his coaching experience.
As said I would have kept him at United as a midfielder although I do believe he was a very limited defender (still better then OShea though)
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Im talking about his coaching experience.
As said I would have kept him at United as a midfielder although I do believe he was a very limited defender (still better then OShea though)
Because there's millions of people who can do the job as assistants. The assistant's quality rarely matters if the manager is competent, Newcastle went into the CL with John Carver as assistant manager to Bobby Robson for example.
You were talking about him being a limited player also. Which has nothing to do with his coaching ability.
well I beg to differ on that. I think that they are good assistants and less good assistants, although being a good assistant doesn't necessary mean you'll be a great manager (Different job and all). The likes of Queroz and Mclaren assisted SAF greatly in his career
I said a very limited defender. He was a limited player technically but I believe he was a decent enforcer and could have become our Gattuso.
I am fascinated with his coaching experience and I am fascinated at how he still manages to find great coaching jobs. I mean he moved to Valencia as coach despite failing at both United and England. There again Valencia aren't exactly known for having high standards lately. They did appoint that pundit as manager after all
Do you ever give it a rest Devilish?
Of course some are better than others, but Ferguson had 8 different assistants in his time here, and won league titles with 7 of them.
Fergie was a freak of nature.
I just asked if they think Mourinho would appoint Phil that's all
So Mounited then?
But it has nothing to with how good a coach he is so I've no idea why you keep going on about it. There's numerous coaches who continue to get jobs. That's how football does and always has worked. I've no idea why it fascinates you so much and the fixation on these individuals.
It could be anything! I don't care so long as we get him!
Experience yes, as long as it's positive. If you have been sacked, potentially repeatedly, at some point the experience counts against you outside of football. Not so inside, it seems.
So you think Rui Faria is a major part of Mourinho's success? Ancelotti had Tassotti at Milan, Wilkins at Chelsea, Makelele (iirc) at PSG and Zidane at Real Madrid, yet won numerous of titles with those clubs.
Its good to have a good assistant and all that, but in the end results depends on the manager, and no one else. Phil Neville might not be a good coach, but to blame him for Pearce, Moyes, Nuno and his brother's shortcomings is ridiculous.
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As for the rest of the post, I largely agree. However, sometimes a brilliant assistant can supplement a great manager. Remember, that Carlos Queiroz was credited for our tactics for the semi-final win against Barcelona in 2008.
Mould Trafford?
Hey I'm just asking if mou will hire Phil. Considering his recent runs at Valencia, England and United Id be careful though. The boy seem to have as much luck as coach as having one of the horsemen of the apocalypse around. Surely it's not down to talent though as he keeps getting great jobs, again and again
Maybe we should pay the nevs to start coaching bayern and Barcelona. It's about time we balance things down with them
To answer your question seriously: Nah, I can't see Mourinho hiring Phil. They have had no association together, and usually managers opt for people they have worked with, right?
To answer your question seriously: Nah, I can't see Mourinho hiring Phil. They have had no association together, and usually managers opt for people they have worked with, right?
According to wiki Phil contacted mou regarding whether he should pursue a career in management. I don't know if that's true however I had to ask
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As for the rest of the post, I largely agree. However, sometimes a brilliant assistant can supplement a great manager. Remember, that Carlos Queiroz was credited for our tactics for the semi-final win against Barcelona in 2008.
Sure, as I said earlier, some assistants are better than others, but overall results depends on the manager.
That's quite interesting, didn't know they were close if that was the case.
If Mou wants an ex player as assistant, the man he should be crawling all over is Patrice Evra.
Solid gold that man.
Solid gold that man.
Peter Taylor with Brian Clough is a good example of that.FM legend
As for the rest of the post, I largely agree. However, sometimes a brilliant assistant can supplement a great manager. Remember, that Carlos Queiroz was credited for our tactics for the semi-final win against Barcelona in 2008.
Yes please.
He is still playing and doing well.
I would sign him.
2 alerts in a minute for Patrice Evra. He gets the people going!
Wrap up that playing career Pat or just player coach it and inject beast mode into Shaw. Come home and enjoy rainy days in Manchester with MUFC dvd's on the TV like the good old days.
Ps in David Pleat style, Good evening @SirAF
Wrap up that playing career Pat or just player coach it and inject beast mode into Shaw. Come home and enjoy rainy days in Manchester with MUFC dvd's on the TV like the good old days.
Ps in David Pleat style, Good evening @SirAF
Definitely get Evra in. He knows the club inside out.
Mourinho should bring Terry, a real fan on the bench will be great.
Let's not forget he does know how to score against a Pep side.
I think I've really started something with that shout
I get what you are saying mate, but when someone is coaching at the top level whether they are successful or not they are still gaining experience and knowledge as they go along. They might have a good reputation within football circles despite failures who knows.
I think clubs just look at it and think well this guy has managed x amount of clubs so he's a better bet as opposed to a young coach with little experience. I mean look at Ranieri how many times has he been sacked and Leicester still took a chance on him and i'm sure they are delighted they did now.
Funnily enough Terry was a massive United fan growing up.
He was allegedly very close to signing for United when Chelsea were in big financial trouble just before Abramovich bought (and subsequently saved) the club.
Him and Ferdinand would have been an incredible partnership. But if we'd signed him, it's highly unlikely that we'd have bought Vidic.
It all worked out for the best really
He is hyped. I saw debates from Redcafe to Sky Sports News debating whether or not he was better than Anthony Martial when we signed him, with posters on here declaring Wilson was the better talent.
He has proven nothing, injuries or not, he played a decent amount of first team football for us last season, and rarely impressed. That, of course, is okay - as he is still young and has time still, but the fact is, Rashford is also young, Martial is also young, nobody has stopped Wilson from having the sort of impact they had. This doesn't mean he should be written off of course, but I often see his name mentioned in debates that his name has no business being mentioned in, that's all. He was great for the reserves, but ultimately, that doesn't really matter in the long run. Many players, at many clubs, have been great in reserves and struggle to convert it. He isn't having the sort of Championship season Patrick Bamford had either while on loan, but people will likely say that isn't his fault for one reason or another. Same for Will Keane, who has been regularly unimpressive in the Championship, but I still see him spoken about as a long term United striker.
I am very supportive of United's young players on the whole, but not blindly. For them to have careers here, they need to show they can meet the standard. The likes of Januzaj, Rashford, CBJ have shown a Manchester United level in their first team appearances, so of course, one would rather allow them to occupy that space as opposed to signings. Wilson hasn't looked a United player in his time, for me. Again, not writing him off, but on what he's shown so far, he has no business in the squad. If and when he does, then it will be fantastic, and if he doesn't, he will, and should, be sold.
I know this is probably off topic now, just logged back in and responding to my mentions!
Evra or Vidic for me.
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